What's your opinion of the Confederate Flag?

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Poll What's your opinion of the Confederate Flag? (21 votes)

I think it represents the atrocities of the past in the south of slavery and i don't like it 52%
I think it represents the southern pride and despite it's atrocities, it shows the people are proud to be from there 48%

let's see what people think of this southern american flag

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#1 ReadingRainbow4
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I really don't care about it.

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#2  Edited By Makhaidos
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Which one? There were several. My personal favorite was this one:

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#3 Judas_
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People down here won't hesitate to say is the latter..............

Personally don't really care much about it..............

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#4  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Makhaidos said:

Which one? There were several. My personal favorite was this one:

lol.

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#5  Edited By 4myAmuzumament
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It's owned by Kanye West.

The Confederate flag: a symbol of racism for some, but a fashion choice for Kanye West.

The rapper was spotted Saturday wearing a jacket emblazoned with the flag after being criticized for featuring it on merchandise for his current “Yeezus” concert tour, People reports.

In an interview Monday with Los Angeles radio station 97.1 AMP, West explained why the former flag of Southern states during the Civil War made its way into his merchandise.




“You know, the Confederate flag represented slavery in a way – that's my abstract take on what I know about it,” he said, according to People. “So I made the song 'New Slaves.' So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It's my flag. Now what are you going to do?"

Yup

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#6  Edited By Judas_
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@4myAmuzumament said:

It's owned by Kanye West.

The Confederate flag: a symbol of racism for some, but a fashion choice for Kanye West.

The rapper was spotted Saturday wearing a jacket emblazoned with the flag after being criticized for featuring it on merchandise for his current “Yeezus” concert tour, People reports.

In an interview Monday with Los Angeles radio station 97.1 AMP, West explained why the former flag of Southern states during the Civil War made its way into his merchandise.

“You know, the Confederate flag represented slavery in a way – that's my abstract take on what I know about it,” he said, according to People. “So I made the song 'New Slaves.' So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It's my flag. Now what are you going to do?"

Yup

Oh Kanye...............You cray-cray........................

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It's a flag. A piece of cloth with a logo on it. There is nothing inherently racist about any flag, except perhaps this one.

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@4myAmuzumament said:

It's owned by Kanye West.

The Confederate flag: a symbol of racism for some, but a fashion choice for Kanye West.

The rapper was spotted Saturday wearing a jacket emblazoned with the flag after being criticized for featuring it on merchandise for his current “Yeezus” concert tour, People reports.

In an interview Monday with Los Angeles radio station 97.1 AMP, West explained why the former flag of Southern states during the Civil War made its way into his merchandise.

“You know, the Confederate flag represented slavery in a way – that's my abstract take on what I know about it,” he said, according to People. “So I made the song 'New Slaves.' So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It's my flag. Now what are you going to do?"

Yup

That's not the confederate flag. This is:

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#9  Edited By Flubbbs
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its just the flag of the south and it represents heritage.. anybody that says its racist and represents slavery is ignorant. The US flag flew over slavery for 86 years, the Confederate flag only 4.

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It doesn't represent slavery & there's nothing wrong with it, period.

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I think people who act like the confederates were exercising state's rights and it wasn't a issue of slavery are historical revisionists, and if they don't see it as horrific symbol then they drank the Kool Aid. Slavery was at the heart of it, it's in their own historical documents in each state's succession documents, and it's a very central point of contention for the south.

http://confederateamericanpride.com/causes4secession.html

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It's brimming with artistic vision.

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@thegerg said:

@lamprey263 said:

I think people who act like the confederates were exercising state's rights and it wasn't a issue of slavery are historical revisionists, and if they don't see it as horrific symbol then they drank the Kool Aid. Slavery was at the heart of it, it's in their own historical documents in each state's succession documents, and it's a very central point of contention for the south.

http://confederateamericanpride.com/causes4secession.html

Let's not forget that slavery was just as important and central to the US at the time. All too often people condemn those who are proud of their ancestor's CSA heritage due to the issue of slavery, but seem to overlook those who are proud of their ancestor's USA heritage in spite of the issue of slavery.

Thing is though, slavery defines the confederate states because it was their only reason for succession. Sure the US has a shameful past but it doesn't define it entirely, the confederacy is define by by its stance on the issue of slavery.

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@Flubbbs said:

its just the flag of the south and it represents heritage.. anybody that says its racist and represents slavery is ignorant. The US flag flew over slavery for 86 years, the Confederate flag only 4.

Yeah, their heritage of seceding from the union because they had problems with abolitionist overtures like the Missouri compromise. The U.S. was a slave-owning nation for a long time, but the C.S. was founded on protecting slavery. Anyone who wants to celebrate that sort of heritage is a racist.

I think we should make John Brown's birthday a national holiday so we can celebrate the North's heritage of killing slave-owning d*ckholes.

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@thegerg said:

@lamprey263 said:

@thegerg said:

@lamprey263 said:

I think people who act like the confederates were exercising state's rights and it wasn't a issue of slavery are historical revisionists, and if they don't see it as horrific symbol then they drank the Kool Aid. Slavery was at the heart of it, it's in their own historical documents in each state's succession documents, and it's a very central point of contention for the south.

http://confederateamericanpride.com/causes4secession.html

Let's not forget that slavery was just as important and central to the US at the time. All too often people condemn those who are proud of their ancestor's CSA heritage due to the issue of slavery, but seem to overlook those who are proud of their ancestor's USA heritage in spite of the issue of slavery.

Thing is though, slavery defines the confederate states because it was their only reason for succession. Sure the US has a shameful past but it doesn't define it entirely, the confederacy is define by by its stance on the issue of slavery.

You seem to be confused. Slavery was not the only reason for secession (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "succession.")

like what then?

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#18  Edited By JML897
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I don't really understand people who fly it proudly as southern pride or whatever. I'm part-German but I'll never fly the flag the Germans used in WW2 because I'm "proud of my German heritage".

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I really don't care about it.

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I try to see things in an open minded manner, I see it as having different meanings.

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#22  Edited By coolbeans90
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The south seceded primarily because of slavery.

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#23 AmazonTreeBoa
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Option 2.

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I went with the second one.

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@theone86 said:

@Flubbbs said:

its just the flag of the south and it represents heritage.. anybody that says its racist and represents slavery is ignorant. The US flag flew over slavery for 86 years, the Confederate flag only 4.

Yeah, their heritage of seceding from the union because they had problems with abolitionist overtures like the Missouri compromise. The U.S. was a slave-owning nation for a long time, but the C.S. was founded on protecting slavery. Anyone who wants to celebrate that sort of heritage is a racist.

I think we should make John Brown's birthday a national holiday so we can celebrate the North's heritage of killing slave-owning d*ckholes.

Precisely, you can't even make a strong case for the flag representing "states rights" because of their support of the fugitive slave act.. A act they pushed through the federal government to force all states to uphold..

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I really don't care about it.

this. 3rd option in poll needed

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#27 coolbeans90
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It is simply a flag borne by one of the many former, thoroughly annihilated foes of America.

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#28  Edited By HoolaHoopMan
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I'm mostly indifferent to it. I don't see much of a reason to fly the flag.

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#29 branketra
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It represents slavery. I do not like it.