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no free prison stays? hmm lets think this through.
"You killed that man, you're going to prison."
"But I have no money."
"Well then you can't use our prison."
and a killer goes free
is that what you want?
huh?
is it?
yea didn't think so.Beaman
you heard of the term deport?
[QUOTE="Beaman"]no free prison stays? hmm lets think this through.
"You killed that man, you're going to prison."
"But I have no money."
"Well then you can't use our prison."
and a killer goes free
is that what you want?
huh?
is it?
yea didn't think so.AirBorneLove
you heard of the term deport?
Prisons are where people go if they cant pay a fine towards a crime...a not severe crime of course, like shoplifting. I really dont know. I mean, I really do hate Illegal immigrants, yet if they have a child in the US, that child isnt offically illegal...I think that is the number one reason we cant get an immigration bill at the moment...schoeffmaster
so why dont they just make it that, if two illegals have a child here that the child is an illegal also.
what's funny is that some people want to not only make the illegals citizens, but also the extended family back in thier home country legal as well. take that 10-20 million and multiply it by 2. holy crap.amob
thats sick
http://www.americanpatrol.com/ENFORCEMENT/insphonenumbers042599.html
First I'd dump the "Anchor Baby rule" (Illegal has child, child is legal). Canada had allowed that same thing, until it was abused by illegal Chinese immigrants. In a twist of irony, it was abolished... by a chinese politician :lol:
Second, put 'em in the army, infrantry rank only.You do 4 years, leave an illegal, return a citizen. All y'all wanna come here and freeload,allrighty then, serve your new "country". Gotta give to get.
What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"?
jrhawk42
100 years, modern society, laws...etc...
[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"?
jrhawk42
100 years, modern society, laws...etc...
yea I don't think that bill-o-rights or constitution thing is gonna work out either.
it's not that we don't care about the people, it's just that we want them documented so that we know who they are and so that we can control the numbers entering.
also, we're thinking of the people who legally immigrated here.
[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"?
jrhawk42
100 years, modern society, laws...etc...
yea I don't think that bill-o-rights or constitution thing is gonna work out either.
You know, the Bill of Rights are just amendments to the Constitution. That's the beauty of amendments, they can keep governments and laws relevant to modern society.
[QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"?
amob
100 years, modern society, laws...etc...
yea I don't think that bill-o-rights or constitution thing is gonna work out either.
it's not that we don't care about the people, it's just that we want them documented so that we know who they are and so that we can control the numbers entering.
also, we're thinking of the people who legally immigrated here.
haha that's a joke, most people illegally immigrate because they have no chance of legally immigrating. We're not controlling the numbers of people entering, we're controlling the type of people entering.
I suggest having a one-year wait on all illegal immigrants and when the year is up, all illegals are to take a liability test for if they have the qualities to become an American citizen....(such as speaking English fluently, proving tolerance to the law and others, and education). This will filter out and be left with those who really wants to become an American, who have earned it and deserve to stay. The rest are sent back, but are allowed in for a temporary guest workers program. This can keep our large lower class workforce we need for the jobs most of us won't do to keep the economy up.
I say it's a perfect idea.
[QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]send them back to Canada.AirBorneLove
you serious?
do i look like im kiddin to ya:lol: ?
[QUOTE="amob"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"?
jrhawk42
100 years, modern society, laws...etc...
yea I don't think that bill-o-rights or constitution thing is gonna work out either.
it's not that we don't care about the people, it's just that we want them documented so that we know who they are and so that we can control the numbers entering.
also, we're thinking of the people who legally immigrated here.
haha that's a joke, most people illegally immigrate because they have no chance of legally immigrating. We're not controlling the numbers of people entering, we're controlling the type of people entering.
you're damn right we're controlling the type of people entering as well as the numbers. i really don't want criminals becoming citizens so that they can rob, kill, and rape people here.
i am also not saying that we don't need reform to allow for a few more people to come here legally and work.
however, no matter what you say, illegal immigration is still a crime against this country and not the right thing to do.
[QUOTE="AirBorneLove"][QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]send them back to Canada.hell_blazer899
you serious?
do i look like im kiddin to ya:lol: ?
Those Canadains surely have the room...[QUOTE="AirBorneLove"][QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]send them back to Canada.hell_blazer899
you serious?
do i look like im kiddin to ya:lol: ?
yup, your laughing..
[QUOTE="hell_blazer899"][QUOTE="AirBorneLove"][QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]send them back to Canada.AirBorneLove
you serious?
do i look like im kiddin to ya:lol: ?
yup, your laughing..
nope. ur confused thats all:lol:
I think this country has far more pressing issues, such as "What the hell are we going to do with this mess we helped create in Iraq?"
I have yet to hear an all-around good solution for that one.
My opinion, i believe we should make them go back to their country to wait for a guest worker's permit and also make them pay a small fine of lets say 10,000 dollars. Do not offer illegal benfits such as free high school education, free health care, and free prison stays. Tighten up on border security so that when they're deported they won't just slip back in. Also...terrorists can't just slip in and attack us. What you guys think?AirBorneLove
ive seen news reports that says the mexican military has been taking shots at our troops and helping drug cartels get over our borders...
my option: quit iraq and goto war with mexico.
Terrorists don't come from Canada or Mexico. Fine of $10,000 when some of these people can't even afford to eat? I think it's a non issue that's exaggerated, without illegal immigrants tax money where would the economy be? If you think everyone should go back to their country then great, leave the Native Americans here and everyone go back.X360PS3AMD05
ummm... what about all that arabic crap they found at the border and what the the local law officials report.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42579
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html
[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Terrorists don't come from Canada or Mexico. Fine of $10,000 when some of these people can't even afford to eat? I think it's a non issue that's exaggerated, without illegal immigrants tax money where would the economy be? If you think everyone should go back to their country then great, leave the Native Americans here and everyone go back.amob
ummm... what about all that arabic crap they found at the border and what the the local law officials report.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42579
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html
Was Ted Kaczyinsky Canadian or Mexican?[QUOTE="AirBorneLove"]My opinion, i believe we should make them go back to their country to wait for a guest worker's permit and also make them pay a small fine of lets say 10,000 dollars. Do not offer illegal benfits such as free high school education, free health care, and free prison stays. Tighten up on border security so that when they're deported they won't just slip back in. Also...terrorists can't just slip in and attack us. What you guys think?Laymsp0t
my option: quit iraq and goto war with mexico.
Haha, you're joking! :lol: That's like a Grizly Bear against a fly.[QUOTE="amob"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Terrorists don't come from Canada or Mexico. Fine of $10,000 when some of these people can't even afford to eat? I think it's a non issue that's exaggerated, without illegal immigrants tax money where would the economy be? If you think everyone should go back to their country then great, leave the Native Americans here and everyone go back.X360PS3AMD05
ummm... what about all that arabic crap they found at the border and what the the local law officials report.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42579
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html
Was Ted Kaczyinsky Canadian or Mexican?of course there are idiots that are US citizens, but that doesn't mean we need to import them as well.
[QUOTE="AirBorneLove"]My opinion, i believe we should make them go back to their country to wait for a guest worker's permit and also make them pay a small fine of lets say 10,000 dollars. Do not offer illegal benfits such as free high school education, free health care, and free prison stays. Tighten up on border security so that when they're deported they won't just slip back in. Also...terrorists can't just slip in and attack us. What you guys think?Laymsp0t
ive seen news reports that says the mexican military has been taking shots at our troops and helping drug cartels get over our borders...
my option: quit iraq and goto war with mexico.
If we do that, then we will have to keep Mexico :shock: we cant afford that..:shock:. Solution, have a militarized zone and draw a black line from the east of Mexico America to the west. If they cross without proper papers...shoot them...if they get up...freak out and start shooting RPGs at him. and we will have atleast sixty guys guarding in a line for every half mile...ummm... what about all that arabic crap they found at the border and what the the local law officials report.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42579
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html
amob
Why do people in these forums keep using nutjob tabloid sites as sources?
[QUOTE="amob"]ummm... what about all that arabic crap they found at the border and what the the local law officials report.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42579
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html
SpaceMoose
Why do people in these forums keep using nutjob tabloid sites as sources?
because they're oldstories and those sites arethe first ones that pop up on google. the things i posted did happen.
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