Well yeah of course, it's pretty natural. It's when the point of the date becomes to sleep with her and is under false pretencesis when your in trouble and becomes wrong.
I can be alone and i think of that. I am a healthy male. hehehe matty. Not just guys think about that. More women than you'd think =POh,I knew that too. I am not naive,or young.:(
I can be alone and i think of that. I am a healthy male. hehehe matty. Not just guys think about that. More women than you'd think =P Exactly. I don't go out with people I don't want to bed either. Its part of the deal.
[QUOTE="Allicrombie"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]I can be alone and i think of that. I am a healthy male.Sajedene
hehehe matty. Not just guys think about that. More women than you'd think =P Exactly. I don't go out with people I don't want to bed either. Its part of the deal.Yeah,I think thats obvious.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Allicrombie"] hehehe matty. Not just guys think about that. More women than you'd think =Pmattykovax
Exactly. I don't go out with people I don't want to bed either. Its part of the deal.Yeah,I think thats obvious. You would think... but a lot of people here associate physical and sexual attraction to someone as shallow. -_-
[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Exactly. I don't go out with people I don't want to bed either. Its part of the deal.Sajedene
Yeah,I think thats obvious. You would think... but a lot of people here associate physical and sexual attraction to someone as shallow. -_- Then I guess we're both shallow
[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Exactly. I don't go out with people I don't want to bed either. Its part of the deal.Sajedene
Yeah,I think thats obvious. You would think... but a lot of people here associate physical and sexual attraction to someone as shallow. -_-Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience.
[QUOTE="Allicrombie"] Then I guess we're both shallow It's not that people here think you're shallow, it's just that the general belief on OT is that you should take the time to get to know someone - their post count, their level - before you take it to the bedroom.
[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Exactly. I don't go out with people I don't want to bed either. Its part of the deal.Sajedene
Yeah,I think thats obvious. You would think... but a lot of people here associate physical and sexual attraction to someone as shallow. -_-It can be if "love", or the prusuit of it, is not an equation in what your looking for in dates. Not every date! But none.
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Allicrombie"] It's not that people here think you're shallow, it's just that the general belief on OT is that you should take the time to get to know someone - their post count, their level - before you take it to the bedroom. [QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Allicrombie"] Then I guess we're both shallow It's not that people here think you're shallow, it's just that the general belief on OT is that you should take the time to get to know someone - their post count, their level - before you take it to the bedroom. hmm I never looked at post count before the bedroom before =P
I can be alone and i think of that. I am a healthy male. :lol: And what of an unhealthy male?Depends on what an unhealthy male is. And most of them are thinking too,just trying not to because they can do nothing about it.
You would think... but a lot of people here associate physical and sexual attraction to someone as shallow. -_-Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience. Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.
[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] You would think... but a lot of people here associate physical and sexual attraction to someone as shallow. -_-Sajedene
Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience. Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.Looks are important depending on your mentality. I don't mind average looking girls.
[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] You would think... but a lot of people here associate physical and sexual attraction to someone as shallow. -_-Sajedene
Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience. Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.Well I think with that,girls feel the same way as guys its hardwired,but perception does not allow for a female to think that way,so when an outspoken female such as yourself says what all girls think you are shallow or other words I will not say,when really you are just brave enough to say what a girl is "not" supposed to say but they all think.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience.BR1NG3R
Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.Looks are important depending on your mentality. I don't mind average looking girls. That's my point -- we all have our standards... you don't mind average looking girls because why? You can settle with their looks if they can offer more right? That can be considered shallow. The mere fact that you consider someone average and say "oh but I'll date you anyway" is the same thing as "you're not the greatest in the character department - but man I can bounce a quarter off of that butt". But its not shallow... its standards. Each characteristic a person has, we have tolerance/standards that we abide by.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience.BR1NG3R
Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.Looks are important depending on your mentality. I don't mind average looking girls. Thats not mentality. That is just "average girls" being attractive to you. The whole point is not looks. I will never date a supermodel. yet there are a lot of nice women (some that even the world finds attractive) that I would not date,because I would not sleep with so its pointless. For instance,I personally think Carmen Diaz is ugly. Even if some time warp allowed me to date her I would not,because I do not find her attractive so I could not perform. No amount of intellect will ever overule biology. And if it does i worry for the human race.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience.mattykovax
Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.Well I think with that,girls feel the same way as guys its hardwired,but perception does not allow for a female to think that way,so when an outspoken female such as yourself says what all girls think you are shallow or other words I will not say,when really you are just brave enough to say what a girl is "not" supposed to say but they all think. Girls and guys who think the same way I do have no problem or issue with that and do not even question what we are "not" supposed to say. Those who get angry and bust out the shallow cards are the ones who feel like they're getting the bad end of the stick when it comes to the dating game.
[QUOTE="BR1NG3R"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.Sajedene
Looks are important depending on your mentality. I don't mind average looking girls. That's my point -- we all have our standards... you don't mind average looking girls because why? You can settle with their looks if they can offer more right? That can be considered shallow. The mere fact that you consider someone average and say "oh but I'll date you anyway" is the same thing as "you're not the greatest in the character department - but man I can bounce a quarter off of that butt". But its not shallow... its standards. Each characteristic a person has, we have tolerance/standards that we abide by. My point. Its not "looks" its "attraction". And that is different for everyone.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="BR1NG3R"]Looks are important depending on your mentality. I don't mind average looking girls. mattykovax
That's my point -- we all have our standards... you don't mind average looking girls because why? You can settle with their looks if they can offer more right? That can be considered shallow. The mere fact that you consider someone average and say "oh but I'll date you anyway" is the same thing as "you're not the greatest in the character department - but man I can bounce a quarter off of that butt". But its not shallow... its standards. Each characteristic a person has, we have tolerance/standards that we abide by. My point. Its not "looks" its "attraction". And that is different for everyone. When you find someone attractive that is their look. But it is their look to you. Yes it is different for everyone. But looks is what causes YOU to be attracted to someone. You can find someone not attractive because their look doesn't do it for you. There is a correlation there.
[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] That's my point -- we all have our standards... you don't mind average looking girls because why? You can settle with their looks if they can offer more right? That can be considered shallow. The mere fact that you consider someone average and say "oh but I'll date you anyway" is the same thing as "you're not the greatest in the character department - but man I can bounce a quarter off of that butt". But its not shallow... its standards. Each characteristic a person has, we have tolerance/standards that we abide by. Sajedene
My point. Its not "looks" its "attraction". And that is different for everyone. When you find someone attractive that is their look. But it is their look to you. Yes it is different for everyone. But looks is what causes YOU to be attracted to someone. You can find someone not attractive because their look doesn't do it for you. There is a correlation there.I agree. I think now me and you are arguing semantics when we are actually on the same page.:lol:
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="BR1NG3R"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Exactly. But when you see threads like "Are Looks Important" and people say no... OH PLEASE. It is as important as anything else you look for in a mate. Perhaps the people who make the "Nice Guys Finish Last" need to reconsider another reason too. Allie: Oh yeah I guess we are. Hahaha. I've been called shallow in these forums quite a few times. I'm just being honest and sometimes people don't like to hear the truth.Looks are important depending on your mentality. I don't mind average looking girls. That's my point -- we all have our standards... you don't mind average looking girls because why? You can settle with their looks if they can offer more right? That can be considered shallow. The mere fact that you consider someone average and say "oh but I'll date you anyway" is the same thing as "you're not the greatest in the character department - but man I can bounce a quarter off of that butt". But its not shallow... its standards. Each characteristic a person has, we have tolerance/standards that we abide by. oh I actually don't know what I'm talking about, I just said that to look smart.. or dumb depending on your view. I'm pretty sure I want a hot chick. lol I'm just talking, words aren't actions.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]My point. Its not "looks" its "attraction". And that is different for everyone.mattykovax
When you find someone attractive that is their look. But it is their look to you. Yes it is different for everyone. But looks is what causes YOU to be attracted to someone. You can find someone not attractive because their look doesn't do it for you. There is a correlation there.I agree. I think now me and you are arguing semantics when we are actually on the same page.:lol: I know hahaha :lol: but yeah... that's why I never like those responses of "oh personality is the most important" -- its AS IMPORTANT as everything else. Heck, you can be physically attracted to someone and be attracted to their personality... but if you guys have no chemistry in the bedroom... that WILL cause problems. :o
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="BR1NG3R"]Looks are important depending on your mentality. I don't mind average looking girls. BR1NG3R
That's my point -- we all have our standards... you don't mind average looking girls because why? You can settle with their looks if they can offer more right? That can be considered shallow. The mere fact that you consider someone average and say "oh but I'll date you anyway" is the same thing as "you're not the greatest in the character department - but man I can bounce a quarter off of that butt". But its not shallow... its standards. Each characteristic a person has, we have tolerance/standards that we abide by. oh I actually don't know what I'm talking about, I just said that to look smart.. or dumb depending on your view. I'm pretty sure I want a hot chick. lol I'm just talking, words aren't actions. No worries. And as me and matty are saying -- your hot chick could be the hottest chick in the world in your eyes (which is all that should matter to you) but matty can be like ew no. ;)
[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] When you find someone attractive that is their look. But it is their look to you. Yes it is different for everyone. But looks is what causes YOU to be attracted to someone. You can find someone not attractive because their look doesn't do it for you. There is a correlation there.Sajedene
I agree. I think now me and you are arguing semantics when we are actually on the same page.:lol: I know hahaha :lol: but yeah... that's why I never like those responses of "oh personality is the most important" -- its AS IMPORTANT as everything else. Heck, you can be physically attracted to someone and be attracted to their personality... but if you guys have no chemistry in the bedroom... that WILL cause problems. :o no chemistry in the bedroom is a big problem =P
No worries. And as me and matty are saying -- your hot chick could be the hottest chick in the world in your eyes (which is all that should matter to you) but matty can be like ew no. ;)Sajedene
And that cuts right to the chase so to speak. And Vise Versa.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]I agree. I think now me and you are arguing semantics when we are actually on the same page.:lol:Allicrombie
I know hahaha :lol: but yeah... that's why I never like those responses of "oh personality is the most important" -- its AS IMPORTANT as everything else. Heck, you can be physically attracted to someone and be attracted to their personality... but if you guys have no chemistry in the bedroom... that WILL cause problems. :o no chemistry in the bedroom is a big problem =Pyeah you spill the chemicals all over the place and then you gotta clean em up, annoying!:x
[QUOTE="Allicrombie"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] I know hahaha :lol: but yeah... that's why I never like those responses of "oh personality is the most important" -- its AS IMPORTANT as everything else. Heck, you can be physically attracted to someone and be attracted to their personality... but if you guys have no chemistry in the bedroom... that WILL cause problems. :oBR1NG3R
no chemistry in the bedroom is a big problem =Pyeah you spill the chemicals all over the place and then you gotta clean em up, annoying!:x It might burn too :cry:
No worries. And as me and matty are saying -- your hot chick could be the hottest chick in the world in your eyes (which is all that should matter to you) but matty can be like ew no. ;)Sajedene
Yeah, if someone put Anne Hathaway in front of me I'd go flaccid instantly. I know other people find her attractive, but I don't. I keep imagining how droopy her face is going to be in ten years.
Thats stupid. does not matter how good a person they are if ugh...well I know you understand. Does not mean you will sleep with everyone you date,but you will not date someone you would not sleep with in the first place. Common sense to me. But maybe thats because some of us actually have real world dating experience.mattykovax
What is this real world dating experience you talk of? Do you mean this analog world that I can see through my window? Then one where I can't click my way ahead like I do here? :P On Topic - If I didn't think if it before or on the first date... There would never be anything more than a first date...
I will probably be trying to think of what to say to not sound stupid, but I'm sure at some point like when my eyes look over her breats, I will think sexual thoughts.
[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]I don't think you should be thinking of it on the first date. The first date is about trying to get to know each other. :)Allicrombie
This is part of getting to know someone, chemistry is a big part.I would have to agree with this. Even if you wind up liking the person alot, chemistry takes things further and to more exciting levels.
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