When you really think about it, logically, Atheism just doesn't make sense.

Imagine this: You had all the parts to a Mercedez dissassembled, piece by piece, you put them all into one big bag, and shook it up for say, an infinite amount of time. After some time you open the bag to find a Mclaren assembled.

Now, replace Mercedez with life, and all the ingredients necessary. Does it seem possible? No. The Mercedez probability is effectively zero. Therefore life forming on earth is effectively zero. And effectively zero is not a good model for how life came to be.

And so we need to think scientifically. We need a new model. We conclude that maybe design was deliberate. This makes sense. A clock has to be designed, a car has to be designed. So we stick with our designer concept, intelligent design if you will. We test it out.

Life looks well designed. Things are well suited to their environment and what have you. Well, the model is fair. Nothing goes against it so far and thus, we have our theory. 

At least you are trying harder this time

I can't believe people here will still feed the troll lol

well tbh, evolution =/= atheism. More and more christians are going that direction. Even Pat Robertson speaks out against young earth creationism

I don't want to go on an endless debate, but what's your answer on the origins of the Creator?

LOL MetalDogGear thread.

Didnt read OP.

and nothing of value was lost.

This outta be fun.

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

worlock77

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

brucewayne69

I can live without the affection of morons and trolls.

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

worlock77

I can live without the affection of morons and trolls.

there is probably a special place in hell for people that try to use science to prove god exists.

the whole deal is about faith.

there is probably not a bigger way to screw up religion than by using science to try and make some logical argument.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

brucewayne69

no hes right.

TC is linda like a minature 0rbs

there is probably a special place in hell for people that try to use science to prove god exists.

the whole deal is about faith.

there is probably not a bigger way to screw up religion than by using science to try and make some logical argument.

Riverwolf007

If science could prove "God" then he/she/it would be nothing more than a part of the natural world, and thus religion/faith would die out.

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No more or less likely then an all mighty creator.

Agnostic FTW! :cool:

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

brucewayne69

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

brucewayne69

Look who's talking

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"] This is why nobody likes you.brucewayne69

I can live without the affection of morons and trolls.

At least you are trying harder this time

 

I can't believe people here will still feed the troll lol

NEWMAHAY

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

brucewayne69

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

I can live without the affection of morons and trolls.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

there is probably a special place in hell for people that try to use science to prove god exists.

the whole deal is about faith.

there is probably not a bigger way to screw up religion than by using science to try and make some logical argument.

worlock77

If science could prove "God" then he/she/it would be nothing more than a part of the natural world, and thus religion/faith would die out.

i can't imagine god hating anything more than this wishy washy ass intelligent design bullshyt.

first and foremost it leaves out faith secondly it makes god look too stupid to  design a system that fits the rules of nature and is undetectable as gods handiwork.

god does not leave proof lying about, how do the religious not get that part?

You're poorly read.

Evolution isn't random it's guided by natural selection.

Athiesm not only not make sense but also been debunked. Athiest just want to be super cool on internet. Evolution is debunked tooSNIPER4321

I'll nibble.

How?

except the ingredients of life weren't ready-made pieces like the ones in forming a mercedes. instead, they were flexible pieces that managed to shape themselves after million years of trial and error.

No more or less likely then an all mighty creator.

Agnostic FTW! :cool:

FragTycoon

Agnostic Master Race.

This outta be fun.

Bardock47

What you are saying is actually totally unlogical. becuase based on logic there still is a very small POSSIBILITY that those parts will turn into mercedez. even though very very small possibility.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

brucewayne69

I like him.Aljosa23

Something to cheer you all up...

http://youtu.be/LZJ-_OTvsqo

I left atheism because I just couldn't find any rational evidence for it as a worldview. maheo30

Yeah, there's all kinds of rational evidence for the Christian worldview.

[QUOTE="maheo30"]I left atheism because I just couldn't find any rational evidence for it as a worldview. worlock77

Yeah, there's all kinds of rational evidence for the Christian worldview.

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I left atheism because I just couldn't find any rational evidence for it as a worldview. maheo30

What religion provides 'rational evidence' for anything?

When you think about it logically, God is pretty damn awesome and Jesus was a pretty cool guy. Eh performed miracles and doesn't afraid of anything.  

When you think about it logically, God is pretty damn awesome and Jesus was a pretty cool guy. Eh performed miracles and doesn't afraid of anything.  

LordQuorthon

I had a Mercedez, but then it fell apart because it was a cheap knock-off of that woman who dances at the club.

Imagine this: You had all the parts to a Mercedez dissassembled, piece by piece, you put them all into one big bag, and shook it up for say, an infinite amount of time. After some time you open the bag to find a Mclaren assembled.

 

 

Now, replace Mercedez with life, and all the ingredients necessary. Does it seem possible? No. The Mercedez probability is effectively zero. Therefore life forming on earth is effectively zero. And effectively zero is not a good model for how life came to be.

 

And so we need to think scientifically. We need a new model. We conclude that maybe design was deliberate. This makes sense. A clock has to be designed, a car has to be designed. So we stick with our designer concept, intelligent design if you will. We test it out.

 

Life looks well designed. Things are well suited to their environment and what have you. Well, the model is fair. Nothing goes against it so far and thus, we have our theory. 

MetalDogGear

The problem with your argument is that there are many things in nature that aren't alive that self-assemble. Protiens, lipids, etc.

Is is thought lipids were used by the eariliest life as proto cell walls, and in fact cell walls still have lipid bilayers.

Self-assembly of non-organic molecules in nature is not uncommon.

There is no shred of scientific evidence that any God exists. But if God existed then there are so many things that I would ask of him.

You understand that humans and other animals didn't just pop into existence, right? So your little example is absurd.