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#1 Hot-Tamale
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I've been wondering, where do YOU fit on the political spectrum?

If you need a definition of each, you can look them up. Theoetically it boils down to this:

Conservatives: Deregulation of economy, regulation of people's lives.

Liberals: Regulation of economy, deregulation of people's lives.

Authoritarians: Regulation of both.

Libertarians: Deregulation of both.

Moderates: Middling regulation of economy, and middling regulation of people's lives.

I realize that it's very basic, and that many will be unhappy with it, but this is THEORETICALLY how it breaks down. I'm not going into the whole individualism/communitarianism/collectivism stuff here because people have such differing views of each.

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#2 Maniacc1
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I suppose I consider myself a Libertarianistic Liberal. I support the Constitution heavily and don't agree it should be changed unless it contributes to society as whole (even though every person's perception of what benefits society is different, I know :P). I also value personal liberties very highly and don't believe people should be oppressed, even if I strongly disagree with their views. Me thinks it's hard to explain.
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#3 Tiefster
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I'm more of an authoritarian. A government should ensure the safety and well being of its citizens, the US government currently does not do either very well.

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#4 th3stausqu0
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Liberal

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#5 blackngold29
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I'm a "Howabout the gov't says out of my life!?" Libertarian
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#6 Bigg_Boi
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I'm heavily Authoritarian.

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#7 megahaloman64
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Wait, arent conservatives agains governmant regulation of people?

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#8 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Wait, arent conservatives agains governmant regulation of people?

megahaloman64

When it comes to traditional morality they are for the regulation of the actions that violate that code of conduct, but the people's liberty is what they ultimately pursue.

I'm a conservative. Some quizzes place me as an authoritarian conservative while others place me as a libertarian conservative, so I'm fine with being a conservative.

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#9 KDIDDY78
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Wait, arent conservatives agains governmant regulation of people?

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yup... i think you got your definitions from a liberal site...im conservative and against any government interference from economy to personal freedoms i.e gun control

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#10 _BlueDuck_
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You know, it's really hard to define any political position because there are so many schools in each division and they borrow from everyone else. Most democratic countries, liberal, conservative or socialist all have liberal ideals, modern day conservatives use economic liberal policies, modern day liberals use certain social ideas as well.

I guess I'd be mostly a welfare (social) liberal. I want the government to stay out of people's business, but I beleive it is their job to provide equality or opportunity and guarantee individual rights to the people.

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#11 D_Battery
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I believe there are parasitic elements at both the top and bottom tiers of society, that both the extremely rich and the extremely poor are hampering or damaging the middle class. Try and find a place to fit that on the economic political spectrum.

Spectrums are bull**** cop-outs designed to give those too stupid to understand politics the illusion that they do.

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#12 _BlueDuck_
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[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

Wait, arent conservatives agains governmant regulation of people?

KDIDDY78

yup... i think you got your definitions from a liberal site...im conservative and against any government interference from economy to personal freedoms i.e gun control

A traditional Conservative government wants to increase state power, because the world is dangerous and the state must be able to protect itself and its people with the most power necessary. It also wants to hold up traditional values and beleifs. Free economy is a Classical Liberal idea which most modern Conservatives have adopted.

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#13 KDIDDY78
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[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

Wait, arent conservatives agains governmant regulation of people?

_BlueDuck_

yup... i think you got your definitions from a liberal site...im conservative and against any government interference from economy to personal freedoms i.e gun control

A traditional Conservative government wants to increase state power, because the world is dangerous and the state must be able to protect itself and its people with the most power necessary. It also wants to hold up traditional values and beleifs. Free economy is a Classical Liberal idea which most modern Conservatives have adopted.

i think in this situation state is referring to individual states (cali, arizona etc.) yes coservatives believe in greater state rights and less federal interference in state affairs...mainy states currently are trying to distance themselves from the fedearl government because contrary to believe rights everyday are being stripped from us...an example is not taking bail funds from the governmant. states who recieve this bailout money...im thankful my governer told the government "We dont want your stinkin money"

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[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

Wait, arent conservatives agains governmant regulation of people?

KDIDDY78

yup... i think you got your definitions from a liberal site...im conservative and against any government interference from economy to personal freedoms i.e gun control

What about gay marriage, abortion, religion, etc.?

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#15 Communist_Soul
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I'm a proud Authoritarian, click my sig that's what I support.

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#16 _BlueDuck_
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[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]yup... i think you got your definitions from a liberal site...im conservative and against any government interference from economy to personal freedoms i.e gun control

KDIDDY78

A traditional Conservative government wants to increase state power, because the world is dangerous and the state must be able to protect itself and its people with the most power necessary. It also wants to hold up traditional values and beleifs. Free economy is a Classical Liberal idea which most modern Conservatives have adopted.

i think in this situation state is referring to individual states (cali, arizona etc.) yes coservatives believe in greater state rights and less federal interference in state affairs...mainy states currently are trying to distance themselves from the fedearl government because contrary to believe rights everyday are being stripped from us...an example is not taking bail funds from the governmant. states who recieve this bailout money...im thankful my governer told the government "We dont want your stinkin money"

I talking about a much broader scale than just the United States.

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#17 Frattracide
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I'm a Libertarian. I'm also a minarchist.

We has a union, you should check it out /shameless plug

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#18 Hot-Tamale
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[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]yup... i think you got your definitions from a liberal site...im conservative and against any government interference from economy to personal freedoms i.e gun control

KDIDDY78

A traditional Conservative government wants to increase state power, because the world is dangerous and the state must be able to protect itself and its people with the most power necessary. It also wants to hold up traditional values and beleifs. Free economy is a Classical Liberal idea which most modern Conservatives have adopted.

i think in this situation state is referring to individual states (cali, arizona etc.) yes coservatives believe in greater state rights and less federal interference in state affairs...mainy states currently are trying to distance themselves from the fedearl government because contrary to believe rights everyday are being stripped from us...an example is not taking bail funds from the governmant. states who recieve this bailout money...im thankful my governer told the government "We dont want your stinkin money"

It's the libertarian wing of the Republican Party that distances itself from social control policies, ie gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, etc. The religious right (the majority) have no problems with social control, as long as they have their guns...:roll:

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#19 KDIDDY78
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personally i dont care..if your gay and honestly i dont believe in religion. my views being conservative apply to governmant and general moral/ethical behavior of individuals

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#20 KDIDDY78
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[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]

[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

A traditional Conservative government wants to increase state power, because the world is dangerous and the state must be able to protect itself and its people with the most power necessary. It also wants to hold up traditional values and beleifs. Free economy is a Classical Liberal idea which most modern Conservatives have adopted.

Hot-Tamale

i think in this situation state is referring to individual states (cali, arizona etc.) yes coservatives believe in greater state rights and less federal interference in state affairs...mainy states currently are trying to distance themselves from the fedearl government because contrary to believe rights everyday are being stripped from us...an example is not taking bail funds from the governmant. states who recieve this bailout money...im thankful my governer told the government "We dont want your stinkin money"

It's the libertarian wing of the Republican Party that distances itself from social control policies, ie gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, etc. The religious right (the majority) have no problems with social control, as long as they have their guns...:roll:

thats a generalization...unfortunately people who are liberal in there views have a hard time relating to anyone other than other liberals. its sad that america is being ruined by a liberal (ideal) unfortunatly a utopian society where everyone is equal (race, religion, economic) is impossible. every time its tried freedom is taken away from the people. some people will be poor some will be rich...thats the way it is putting everyone in the same economic class you bring the entire country down to a third world status...you might want that...but i dont

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#21 Pyro767
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Your spectrum is wrong, the spectrum is measured two ways not one. Conservative and Liberal are right and left respectively, and Authoritarian and Libertarian are up and down respectively. Conservative is geared on enforcing older ways and tradition whereas Liberal is usually in support of the new. Libertarian is supportive of more freedoms whereas Authoritarian is supportive of more government control. Unfortunately they are paired together as Conservative Libertarian and Liberal Authoritarian because Liberals in general have been pushing towards Authoritarian movements as of late. Well actually, most Liberals and Conservatives are pushing for the Authoritarian movement, but whatever. As for me, I took a test on a site, and it said that I was halfway between moderate and neo-conservative, and leaning towards Libertarian, which I find accurate.
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#22 Hot-Tamale
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[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]i think in this situation state is referring to individual states (cali, arizona etc.) yes coservatives believe in greater state rights and less federal interference in state affairs...mainy states currently are trying to distance themselves from the fedearl government because contrary to believe rights everyday are being stripped from us...an example is not taking bail funds from the governmant. states who recieve this bailout money...im thankful my governer told the government "We dont want your stinkin money"

KDIDDY78

It's the libertarian wing of the Republican Party that distances itself from social control policies, ie gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, etc. The religious right (the majority) have no problems with social control, as long as they have their guns...:roll:

thats a generalization...unfortunately people who are liberal in there views have a hard time relating to anyone other than other liberals. its sad that america is being ruined by a liberal (ideal) unfortunatly a utopian society where everyone is equal (race, religion, economic) is impossible. every time its tried freedom is taken away from the people. some people will be poor some will be rich...thats the way it is putting everyone in the same economic class you bring the entire country down to a third world status...you might want that...but i dont

I would argue that forcing the poor to pay out of pocket for their own healthcare is more like somthing that happens in a 3rd world country, where the gap between the rich and poor is enormous and there are no social programs to combat poverty.

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#23 KDIDDY78
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[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

It's the libertarian wing of the Republican Party that distances itself from social control policies, ie gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, etc. The religious right (the majority) have no problems with social control, as long as they have their guns...:roll:

Hot-Tamale

thats a generalization...unfortunately people who are liberal in there views have a hard time relating to anyone other than other liberals. its sad that america is being ruined by a liberal (ideal) unfortunatly a utopian society where everyone is equal (race, religion, economic) is impossible. every time its tried freedom is taken away from the people. some people will be poor some will be rich...thats the way it is putting everyone in the same economic class you bring the entire country down to a third world status...you might want that...but i dont

I would argue that forcing the poor to pay out of pocket for their own healthcare is more like somthing that happens in a 3rd world country, where the gap between the rich and poor is enormous and there are no social programs to combat poverty.

the poor dont pay outta pocket now...the hospitals take the loss and pass the bill of to the state in which the taxpayers pay...i know im a nurse...poor dont contribute to society except by using up resources the working provide for them...and if we have this new healthcare crap its going to cost more! thats why people are so mad including myself

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[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]thats a generalization...unfortunately people who are liberal in there views have a hard time relating to anyone other than other liberals. its sad that america is being ruined by a liberal (ideal) unfortunatly a utopian society where everyone is equal (race, religion, economic) is impossible. every time its tried freedom is taken away from the people. some people will be poor some will be rich...thats the way it is putting everyone in the same economic class you bring the entire country down to a third world status...you might want that...but i dont

KDIDDY78

I would argue that forcing the poor to pay out of pocket for their own healthcare is more like somthing that happens in a 3rd world country, where the gap between the rich and poor is enormous and there are no social programs to combat poverty.

the poor dont pay outta pocket now...the hospitals take the loss and pass the bill of to the state in which the taxpayers pay...i know im a nurse...poor dont contribute to society except by using up resources the working provide for them...and if we have this new healthcare crap its going to cost more! thats why people are so mad including myself

Obama's healthcare will focus more on preventative medicine, which if correctly implemented can greatly reduce the number of sick people, and therefore symptoms, and therefore waste in the system. Not to mention saving the average American thousands in medicine per year.

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Moderate, I believe the government should be able to step in at any time it's deemed necessary(majority vote) and take control. I also believe that economies and people should be also able to make some decisions for themselves.

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Moderate. I agree with conservatives on some issues, and liberals on others.

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#27 Hot-Tamale
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Finally, some liberals are voting...I thought GS was pretty homogenous for a moment there.

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dude our system today does that...the problem is insurance companies and billing practices...we need reform absolutely...but a plan no one in congress has read no one know's the details of is being shoved down our throats... to me thats not a good way of governing....aside from that if you want to look at government healthcare take a good look at the V.A. that system is completely broken! thats what government change in our healthcare system is going to do!

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closer to liberal
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dude our system today does that...the problem is insurance companies and billing practices...we need reform absolutely...but a plan no one in congress has read no one know's the details of is being shoved down our throats... to me thats not a good way of governing....aside from that if you want to look at government healthcare take a good look at the V.A. that system is completely broken! thats what government change in our healthcare system is going to do!

KDIDDY78

No it's not. The V.A. system is managed very successfully. Look on wikipedia.

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#31 duxup
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I'm off the grid. However, when I take the popular test online I tend to hang with Gandhi.
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#32 carrot-cake
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I do not like those poll options very much, but I'm basically a democratic socialist with a few conservative beleifs. On the political compass test, I'm right in the middle of the bottom left square, with a score of -5.01 and -5.03.

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#33 KDIDDY78
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[QUOTE="KDIDDY78"]

dude our system today does that...the problem is insurance companies and billing practices...we need reform absolutely...but a plan no one in congress has read no one know's the details of is being shoved down our throats... to me thats not a good way of governing....aside from that if you want to look at government healthcare take a good look at the V.A. that system is completely broken! thats what government change in our healthcare system is going to do!

Hot-Tamale

No it's not. The V.A. system is managed very successfully. Look on wikipedia.

talk to some veterans

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I'm a Neo-Con.
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#35 fidosim
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I'm a proud Authoritarian, click my sig that's what I support.

Communist_Soul
A real Communist wouldn't be proud of that, they would simply think that authoritarianism was a necessary stepping stone to a Dictatorship of the Proleteriat and true Communism. Impostor!
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

I'm a proud Authoritarian, click my sig that's what I support.

fidosim
A real Communist wouldn't be proud of that, they would simply think that authoritarianism was a necessary stepping stone to a Dictatorship of the Proleteriat and true Communism. Impostor!

Perhaps he's more pragmatic and supportive of the actual structure that was created rather than the ideology used to explain / justify it?
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

I'm a proud Authoritarian, click my sig that's what I support.

A real Communist wouldn't be proud of that, they would simply think that authoritarianism was a necessary stepping stone to a Dictatorship of the Proleteriat and true Communism. Impostor!

Perhaps he's more pragmatic and supportive of the actual structure that was created rather than the ideology used to explain / justify it?

Then he does not truly have a Communist soul. :(
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#38 Espada12
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Sorry for going off topic but this is a question for americans. Do you still believe the principles that America was founded upon are relevant in this day and age?

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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="fidosim"] A real Communist wouldn't be proud of that, they would simply think that authoritarianism was a necessary stepping stone to a Dictatorship of the Proleteriat and true Communism. Impostor!fidosim
Perhaps he's more pragmatic and supportive of the actual structure that was created rather than the ideology used to explain / justify it?

Then he does not truly have a Communist soul. :(

Burn the imposter! Then, let us go and kill the fascist pigs!

Mother Russia shall prevail!

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Fiscally Conservative but socially closer the center.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Burn the imposter! Then, let us go and kill the fascist pigs!

Mother Russia shall prevail!

Motherlaaaaaaaaaaaaaand! *dies*
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Burn the imposter! Then, let us go and kill the fascist pigs!

Mother Russia shall prevail!

fidosim

Motherlaaaaaaaaaaaaaand! *dies*

Woo tricked fidosim in dying for the "cause" :D

Now we can continue our lives as usual. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Burn the imposter! Then, let us go and kill the fascist pigs!

Mother Russia shall prevail!

Motherlaaaaaaaaaaaaaand! *dies*

Woo tricked fidosim in dying for the "cause" :D

Now we can continue our lives as usual. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.

*body is put on display in glass case* *eyes open* *breaks out of case* *anti-capitalist rampage*
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On the left side of town. That's where all the cool kids hang out 8)

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#45 Dariency
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For the most part I am Liberal/Libertarian, although I also believe that the government can offer aid when needed and I'm also against abortion. So, I don't really know what that makes me.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"] Motherlaaaaaaaaaaaaaand! *dies*fidosim

Woo tricked fidosim in dying for the "cause" :D

Now we can continue our lives as usual. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.

*body is put on display in glass case* *eyes open* *breaks out of case* *anti-capitalist rampage*

I see what you did there...

*cough* Lenin *cough* *cough*, Hrrrrrmmmmmm-hmmmm. Excuse me.

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#47 dkdk999
Member since 2007 • 6754 Posts
libertarian/anarcho capatalist :)
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#48 GabuEx
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I'm an evil, godless, Satan-worshipping liberal; but I repeat myself.

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#49 Hot-Tamale
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On the left side of town. That's where all the cool kids hang out 8)

effena

and the babes, 8)

I'm not implying that obesity is running rampant in the red states, and that beach girls live in liberal areas, but...

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#50 LeGoofyGoober
Member since 2009 • 3168 Posts

i am a libertine!!!!!!!!!!!!1