Where is this world going?!?!

These facts just show that the world is an unfair place. People are so greedy it makes me sick!

May we all keep in mind that TODAY:

-over 35,000 children will starve to death

-1.3 billion people live in absolute poverty (under $1 a day)

-the average US citizen will consume the same amount as 520 Ethiopians

-the US will use over 43% of the worlds resources with less than 6% of the world's population

-the richest 20% of the world have 83% of the world's stuff

-the poorest 20% of the world have 1.4% of the world's stuff

-358 people own the same assets as 45% of the world's poorest

i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

SaintTheKing

because that's not a prerequisite of being a Christian?

YOURE ARE COMMUNIST!!!!!! RUN!!!!

[QUOTE="SaintTheKing"]

i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

Hewkii

because that's not a prerequisite of being a Christian?

It is harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Sounds like a prerequisite to me.

i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

SaintTheKing

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i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

Proobie44

Give the man a medal

YOURE ARE COMMUNIST!!!!!! RUN!!!!

blackacidevil96

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="SaintTheKing"]

i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

Junkie_man

because that's not a prerequisite of being a Christian?

It is harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Sounds like a prerequisite to me.

Jesus only said that because he was poor. If he had any money, he'd be singing a different tune.

i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

SaintTheKing

What nonsense do some research before you try to post an intelectual comment....Americans donate all the money the can come tax season.

Its just scary that we are fooling our own evolution. Its sad to say, but the fact that poorer nations have people dying of starvation and disease is the way its supposed to be in order to make sure that humanity is still at 'peak' performance. However, wealthy countries are tricking death and the natural order.

Example: If a human has badly impacted wisdom teeth, that person should get an infection and die. Eventually, our selection would have us either: 1. No longer have wisdom teeth or 2. Have larger jaws to be able to support an extra row of teeth.

Instead, we have the money and technology to safely remove the teeth. (Silly example, but think of things like Polio, etc.)

This applies to everything. All the things that should have been able to kill us are being "fixed". So eventually, a wealthy country (in this case, the USA) might wind up writing the story of its own demise.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="SaintTheKing"]

i just find it ridiculous that the world is like this...

its messed up how some American billions say they are Christians, yet they donate nothing! i dont get how they can call themselves Christians.:roll:

MrGeezer

because that's not a prerequisite of being a Christian?

It is harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Sounds like a prerequisite to me.

Jesus only said that because he was poor. If he had any money, he'd be singing a different tune.

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

Junkie_man

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

this just sounds like an america bashing topic to me.shoeman12

Not really bashing, just showing the painful facts of life. But again, in nature many (50% or more in some species of) animals aren't supposed to even reach adulthood. The fact that we (most americans, europeans, etc) AREN'T starving and dying is the more astounding statistic to me.

These facts just show that the world is an unfair place. People are so greedy it makes me sick!

May we all keep in mind that TODAY:

-over 35,000 children will starve to death

-1.3 billion people live in absolute poverty (under $1 a day)

-the average US citizen will consume the same amount as 520 Ethiopians

-the US will use over 43% of the worlds resources with less than 6% of the world's population

-the richest 20% of the world have 83% of the world's stuff

-the poorest 20% of the world have 1.4% of the world's stuff

-358 people own the same assets as 45% of the world's poorest

SaintTheKing

So?

Rich people dont have to help poor people. If I was a billionaire I would not feel obliged to donate large amounts of money to the poor, although I still might. You cant tell people what to do with their own money :|

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

Nagru

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

[QUOTE="Nagru"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

Junkie_man

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

Yep thats the way it should be.

[QUOTE="Nagru"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

Junkie_man

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

Yes, it's per person.

[QUOTE="SaintTheKing"]

These facts just show that the world is an unfair place. People are so greedy it makes me sick!

May we all keep in mind that TODAY:

-over 35,000 children will starve to death

-1.3 billion people live in absolute poverty (under $1 a day)

-the average US citizen will consume the same amount as 520 Ethiopians

-the US will use over 43% of the worlds resources with less than 6% of the world's population

-the richest 20% of the world have 83% of the world's stuff

-the poorest 20% of the world have 1.4% of the world's stuff

-358 people own the same assets as 45% of the world's poorest

skinnypete91

So?

Rich people dont have to help poor people. If I was a billionaire I would not feel obliged to donate large amounts of money to the poor, although I still might. You cant tell people what to do with their own money :|

Where did i tell people what to do with their money?

Im just saying that these facts show how messed up this world is.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="Nagru"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

Nagru

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

Yes, it's per person.

Doesn't have that much relevence anyway. I was just saying that Christians who don't donate money are going against teachings in the bible, not that Christians in general don't donate money.

Doesn't have that much relevence anyway. I was just saying that Christians who don't donate money are going against teachings in the bible, not that Christians in general don't donate money.

Junkie_man

1) Thought I should back up my information, so:

"In 2000, religious people gave about three and a half times as much as secular people - $2,210 versus $642" - "Charity's Political Divide," The Chronicle of Philanthropy. Nov. 23, 2006.

2) I would say if you are poor and a Christian, you're not recquired to donate anything. But if you can, you should give to charity.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't have that much relevence anyway. I was just saying that Christians who don't donate money are going against teachings in the bible, not that Christians in general don't donate money.

Nagru

1) Thought I should back up my information, so:

"In 2000, religious people gave about three and a half times as much as secular people - $2,210 versus $642" - "Charity's Political Divide," The Chronicle of Philanthropy. Nov. 23, 2006.

2) I would say if you are poor and a Christian, you're not recquired to donate anything. But if you can, you should give to charity.

Well obviously if you are in poverty you have no such obligation, but if I was so inclined I could direct you to the story of the widow's mite.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="Nagru"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

KillaHalo2o9

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

Yep thats the way it should be.

Yeah, it's much better when we have more people that believe something a magic book tells them to than when they follow ideas based on tested and retested experiments and theories (not even saying that's necessarily it!) based on proven facts.

Yep, that's the way it should be.

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="Nagru"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

AlternatingCaps

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

Yep thats the way it should be.

Yeah, it's much better when we have more people that believe something a magic book tells them to than when they follow ideas based on tested and retested experiments and theories (not even saying that's necessarily it!) based on proven facts.

Yep, that's the way it should be.

Quite true. Giving money to charity essentially through fear has to be the worst reason to do so.

These facts just show that the world is an unfair place. People are so greedy it makes me sick!

May we all keep in mind that TODAY:

-over 35,000 children will starve to death

-1.3 billion people live in absolute poverty (under $1 a day)

-the average US citizen will consume the same amount as 520 Ethiopians

-the US will use over 43% of the worlds resources with less than 6% of the world's population

-the richest 20% of the world have 83% of the world's stuff

-the poorest 20% of the world have 1.4% of the world's stuff

-358 people own the same assets as 45% of the world's poorest

SaintTheKing

So what are you trying to say, that the US should spend our money on those countries. I dont think so.

[QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="Nagru"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

Junkie_man

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

Yep thats the way it should be.

Yeah, it's much better when we have more people that believe something a magic book tells them to than when they follow ideas based on tested and retested experiments and theories (not even saying that's necessarily it!) based on proven facts.

Yep, that's the way it should be.

Quite true. Giving money to charity essentially through fear has to be the worst reason to do so.

Exactly. I'm an atheist and me and my family have given hundreds of hours and lord knows how much (maybe a bit ironic that I choose to use this expression for this discussion?) money to charity because PEOPLE NEED HELP, not because I want some guy in a robe to tell me I'm going to paradise after I die.

[QUOTE="SaintTheKing"]

These facts just show that the world is an unfair place. People are so greedy it makes me sick!

May we all keep in mind that TODAY:

-over 35,000 children will starve to death

-1.3 billion people live in absolute poverty (under $1 a day)

-the average US citizen will consume the same amount as 520 Ethiopians

-the US will use over 43% of the worlds resources with less than 6% of the world's population

-the richest 20% of the world have 83% of the world's stuff

-the poorest 20% of the world have 1.4% of the world's stuff

-358 people own the same assets as 45% of the world's poorest

kool-aids

So what are you trying to say, that the US should spend our money on those countries. I dont think so.

Maybe a little less money on the War and more money helping the poor. Id say we need to help the people who are living homeless in the US before we go around and help other countries. Fix our own problems first.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="Nagru"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Doesn't change the teaching though. If Christians are happy to deny h0m0sexuals human rights because of passages in the bible with no connection to Jesus then they should surely give their money to charity.

AlternatingCaps

If I remember correctly, Theists donate a significant amount more than Atheists.

I don't know if that is including Tithes or not.

Is that per person? There are far more theists than atheists.

Yep thats the way it should be.

Yeah, it's much better when we have more people that believe something a magic book tells them to than when they follow ideas based on tested and retested experiments and theories (not even saying that's necessarily it!) based on proven facts.

Yep, that's the way it should be.

Quite true. Giving money to charity essentially through fear has to be the worst reason to do so.

Exactly. I'm an atheist and me and my family have given hundreds of hours and lord knows how much (maybe a bit ironic that I choose to use this expression for this discussion?) money to charity because PEOPLE NEED HELP, not because I want some guy in a robe to tell me I'm going to paradise after I die.

If God really is omnibenevolent (and exists), then you deserve to go to paradise a lot more than an awful lot of Christians.

[QUOTE="kool-aids"][QUOTE="SaintTheKing"]

These facts just show that the world is an unfair place. People are so greedy it makes me sick!

May we all keep in mind that TODAY:

-over 35,000 children will starve to death

-1.3 billion people live in absolute poverty (under $1 a day)

-the average US citizen will consume the same amount as 520 Ethiopians

-the US will use over 43% of the worlds resources with less than 6% of the world's population

-the richest 20% of the world have 83% of the world's stuff

-the poorest 20% of the world have 1.4% of the world's stuff

-358 people own the same assets as 45% of the world's poorest

SaintTheKing

So what are you trying to say, that the US should spend our money on those countries. I dont think so.

Maybe a little less money on the War and more money helping the poor. Id say we need to help the people who are living homeless in the US before we go around and help other countries. Fix our own problems first.

Expand the job market, that will help a lot.