I don't. I have a friend who's pretty big into the Illuminati stuff, but I don't buy that there's a secret organization with that much power around. AT most, I'd say I'm very cynical of our government, but not to the point where I believe George Bush okay'd 9/11. What about you guys? Any conspiracy theories you subscribe to?
I think there was more to the JFK assassination than what the official story is. I don't however think it was anything too crazy like some people do. I just think Oswald was given more of a push by a third party than the official story claims.
[QUOTE="juden41"]None. One of my co-workers thinks that James Holmes's massacre was staged by a group in support of UN gun control. I'm like :| Think a user here also thinks that.
I think there was more to the JFK assassination than what the official story is. I don't however think it was anything too crazy like some people do. I just think Oswald was given more of a push by a third party than the official story claims.Ace6301
[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="juden41"]None. One of my co-workers thinks that James Holmes's massacre was staged by a group in support of UN gun control. I'm like :| Think a user here also thinks that. Hartsick
[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="juden41"]None. One of my co-workers thinks that James Holmes's massacre was staged by a group in support of UN gun control. I'm like :| Think a user here also thinks that. Hartsick That's the one.
The hip-hop illuminati is very interesting. I don't keep up with conspiracies but the hip-hop illuminati has some truth to it but people don't know how to explain it. i read that Pimp C was killed because he revealed rappers are gay in Atlanta. the news most people heard was Pimp C overdosed but it sure makes you wonder if he was killed or not. Why was 2Pac killed...what is raps true intention...and so on
The hip-hop illuminati is very interesting. I don't keep up with conspiracies but the hip-hop illuminati has some truth to it but people don't know how to explain it. i read that Pimp C was killed because he revealed rappers are gay in Atlanta. the news most people heard was Pimp C overdosed but it sure makes you wonder if he was killed or not. Why was 2Pac killed...what is raps true intention...and so onplaymynutz
[QUOTE="playmynutz"]The hip-hop illuminati is very interesting. I don't keep up with conspiracies but the hip-hop illuminati has some truth to it but people don't know how to explain it. i read that Pimp C was killed because he revealed rappers are gay in Atlanta. the news most people heard was Pimp C overdosed but it sure makes you wonder if he was killed or not. Why was 2Pac killed...what is raps true intention...and so onKevlar101
Ha..... I never knew how deep the whole gay hip-hop and hollywood goes until i heard about Pimp C. it's nothing i would push as truth but its strange. Dave Chapelle said in an interview why do they always try to get a black guy into a dress. they told him to do it but he refused and the director already had a back up scene ready in case Chapelle didn't want to do the dress scene.
JFK....which is basically fact at this point...so many clues. Biggest being that no expert marksman has been able to replicate the 3 shots fired on that rifle that quickly. So either Oswald was the best marksman the world has ever seen or there was more than 1 shooter. Also just the general corruptness of our government, using things like 9/11 to justify the war on terror and occupy other countries which is good news for some big businesses that lobby the politics. Also how the CIA was caught in the 80s smuggling Cocaine into the US...wouldnt be surprised if they are doing it now with Afghan....
I believe the US government is purposely misleading the public as to the motivation behind 9/11, or more specifically - hiding the fact US support of Israel was a major motivation. But I consider this to be far too plausible to call it a conspiracy theory.
While I don't think Bush ok'd 9/11, I know they're hiding something, because the pieces of the plane that hit the pentagon, cannot just dissapear, they were indestructible, and then the plane that hit the field in Penn, gone too, it just doesn't make any sense.
Something is definitely fishy about 9/11. And something is up with Bilderberg you don't get that many powerful people all together at once for no reason.
Something is definitely fishy about 9/11. And something is up with Bilderberg you don't get that many powerful people all together at once for no reason.FPSfan1985
but like Ace said, JFK assassination, or something like 9/11 i'm not denying what happened happened, executed by those who did it. but i sometimes get that feeling that there may be more to it then what we know. Nothing like out of this world crazy, like illuminati, bilderberg group, aliens or "we did it to ourselves for the oil".
but like Ace said, JFK assassination, or something like 9/11 i'm not denying what happened happened, executed by those who did it. but i sometimes get that feeling that there may be more to it then what we know. Nothing like out of this world crazy, like illuminati, bilderberg group, aliens or "we did it to ourselves for the oil".
SaudiFury
How is the Bilderberg crazy? I mean, I know they tell you it's crazy. I know you can't say otherwise. I'm asking you how it's so "crazy" to raise eyebrows at a yearly meeting that consists of royalty, major CEOs, politicians and other major players globally? You think they just rate champagne and NY escorts?
One person not doing their part, or leaking info and the whole thing collapses.dercoo
Plenty of people have come forward though. Truthful or not. Obviously not on mainstream news channels, but there's been plenty of leaks (again, not commenting on their validity).
but like Ace said, JFK assassination, or something like 9/11 i'm not denying what happened happened, executed by those who did it. but i sometimes get that feeling that there may be more to it then what we know. Nothing like out of this world crazy, like illuminati, bilderberg group, aliens or "we did it to ourselves for the oil".
MrPraline
How is the Bilderberg crazy? I mean, I know they tell you it's crazy. I know you can't say otherwise. I'm asking you how it's so "crazy" to raise eyebrows at a yearly meeting that consists of royalty, major CEOs, politicians and other major players globally? You think they just rate champagne and NY escorts? when thinking about a group like bilderberg, i think of two things. 1. rich people of similar powerful backgrounds and/or occupations meet up similar to how similar-like groups meet up. 2. weird conspiracy stuff where they ever so slightly pull the strings to shift the world into whichever direction they so please. I tend to think of it as the former really. but do i think it's odd yes, do i know for a fact what they even talk about. no not really. but i'm more likely to think it's like some really exclusive club. in a world where strict exclusive clubs is more trouble then it's worth to have, and considered a taboo given history and which demographic you are.
I believe the simply ones are more possible/plausible, but the large ones are full of *****.
The problems with "mega" conspiracy theories a la 911's is it would require insane levels of precision from a huge amount of people.
One person not doing their part, or leaking info and the whole thing collapses.
aka: The problem with huge conspiracies is the people themselves. People are flawed and make mistakes by our very nature.
dercoo
You underestimate how people can easily be shut from saying anything. It's not impossible. Look at the Manhattan project; 130,000 people able to keep a secret for years.
but like Ace said, JFK assassination, or something like 9/11 i'm not denying what happened happened, executed by those who did it. but i sometimes get that feeling that there may be more to it then what we know. Nothing like out of this world crazy, like illuminati, bilderberg group, aliens or "we did it to ourselves for the oil".
SaudiFury
How is the Bilderberg crazy? I mean, I know they tell you it's crazy. I know you can't say otherwise. I'm asking you how it's so "crazy" to raise eyebrows at a yearly meeting that consists of royalty, major CEOs, politicians and other major players globally? You think they just rate champagne and NY escorts? when thinking about a group like bilderberg, i think of two things. 1. rich people of similar powerful backgrounds and/or occupations meet up similar to how similar-like groups meet up. 2. weird conspiracy stuff where they ever so slightly pull the strings to shift the world into whichever direction they so please. I tend to think of it as the former really. but do i think it's odd yes, do i know for a fact what they even talk about. no not really. but i'm more likely to think it's like some really exclusive club. in a world where strict exclusive clubs is more trouble then it's worth to have, and considered a taboo given history and which demographic you are. With people as influential as that meeting up together I am fairly quick to assume something more is going on. There's no real need for a conspiracy, just the interests they all share; a common goal and the roads to reach it. As Adam Smith wrote: "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary."
[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] How is the Bilderberg crazy? I mean, I know they tell you it's crazy. I know you can't say otherwise. I'm asking you how it's so "crazy" to raise eyebrows at a yearly meeting that consists of royalty, major CEOs, politicians and other major players globally? You think they just rate champagne and NY escorts?MrPraline
when thinking about a group like bilderberg, i think of two things. 1. rich people of similar powerful backgrounds and/or occupations meet up similar to how similar-like groups meet up. 2. weird conspiracy stuff where they ever so slightly pull the strings to shift the world into whichever direction they so please. I tend to think of it as the former really. but do i think it's odd yes, do i know for a fact what they even talk about. no not really. but i'm more likely to think it's like some really exclusive club. in a world where strict exclusive clubs is more trouble then it's worth to have, and considered a taboo given history and which demographic you are. With people as influential as that meeting up together I am fairly quick to assume something more is going on. There's no real need for a conspiracy, just the interests they all share; a common goal and the roads to reach it. As Adam Smith wrote: "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary."
There was a plot to overthrow FRD by the bankers of its time. Luckily, Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler didn't give into the plot. Though, it was a bad idea to choose him since he was a staunch FDR supporter.
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