Who Discovered The Americas First?

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#1 StarKiller77000
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It is a well know fact that Columbus was not the first to discover the Americas.So who was first?I think that the Japanese were first,and I have evidence that supports this.(1)Using fishing canoes hey could have easily island hopped to the Americas.(2)The designs in South American pottery are similar to Japanese pottery.(3)Some of the South American tribes look similar to Japanese people.(4)There was a disease found in a mummified corpse that is only found in that of Japanese mummies.

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#2 weezyfb
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Those who crossed the land bridge
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"Natives" crossing the Asian-American land bridge. Then Vikings landing in Newfoundland area. Then Chris C.
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The very first life forms that could live on land.
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#5 Lone_Recon
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The Indians crossing the land bridge and then the Polynesians.
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#6 hakanakumono
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Native Americans.

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Apparently it was some European clan. They traveled over the ice which is now ocean into Canada. Learnt this from a documentary I watched about a year ago.

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#8 DmadFearmonger
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Native Americans.

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The natives weren't ALWAYS there
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#9 F1_2004
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That's not really discovery. Columbus officially discovered the Americas, before that Europeans and Asians didn't know about them.
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The people from sumeria

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Native Americans.

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The natives weren't ALWAYS there

They were here long before the Europeans.

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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Native Americans.

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The natives weren't ALWAYS there

They were here long before the Europeans.

Apparently Europeans who moved over to the Americans. Some Russian clan or something actually BECAME the natives.

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Apparently Europeans who moved over to the Americans. Some Russian clan or something actually BECAME the natives.

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I don't think there was a Russia some twelve thousand years ago.

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As in which, relatively speaking, western civilization arrived first? I'm willing to bet it was the vikings.
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#16 coolbeans90
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Presumably, the ancestors of the American-Indians discovered it first. Christoper Columbus's ventures made the Americas known to Western Europe leading to European colonization, and thus was more historically significant than that of the Vikings.

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The Native Americans.

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In the Western World, it was the Vikings.

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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Apparently Europeans who moved over to the Americans. Some Russian clan or something actually BECAME the natives.

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I don't think there was a Russia some twelve thousand years ago.

I meant the area that has become Russia.
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Apparently Europeans who moved over to the Americans. Some Russian clan or something actually BECAME the natives.

DmadFearmonger

I don't think there was a Russia some twelve thousand years ago.

I meant the area that has become Russia.

Okay. But still, based on the prevailing theory of early human migration Europeans do not play any role in the ancestry of Native Americans:

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That's not really discovery. Columbus officially discovered the Americas, before that Europeans and Asians didn't know about them.F1_2004

Officially it was Amerigo Vespucci that discovered America. Hmm, wonder why it's called America.

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The Native Americans. Of Europeans, the Vikings.
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#23 surrealnumber5
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Russians founded this nation as the land bridge connected Russia with Alaska.
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Russians founded this nation as the land bridge connected Russia with Alaska.surrealnumber5
Except that the people we know as "Russians" today, whom do decent from Europeans, didn't arrive there until many thousands of years after the land bridge had disappeared.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]Russians founded this nation as the land bridge connected Russia with Alaska.ThePlothole
Except that the people we know as "Russians" today, whom do decent from Europeans, didn't arrive there until many thousands of years after the land bridge had disappeared.

except i never said Europeans i said Russians, there are Russians in Asia, they have been there since the time of the land bridge and continue to be there today, what is that thing they say about assumptions?
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The early settlers (now known as Native Americans) discovered this land before anyone even fathomed it.

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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]Russians founded this nation as the land bridge connected Russia with Alaska.surrealnumber5
Except that the people we know as "Russians" today, whom do decent from Europeans, didn't arrive there until many thousands of years after the land bridge had disappeared.

except i never said Europeans i said Russians, there are Russians in Asia, they have been there since the time of the land bridge and continue to be there today, what is that thing they say about assumptions?

If you mean to categorize every group of humans that has ever lived in the territory as a "Russian", fine. But technically Russians are a specific ethnic group. A group that originated in Europe, and is completely unrelated to the people who crossed the land bridge.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"] Except that the people we know as "Russians" today, whom do decent from Europeans, didn't arrive there until many thousands of years after the land bridge had disappeared.ThePlothole
except i never said Europeans i said Russians, there are Russians in Asia, they have been there since the time of the land bridge and continue to be there today, what is that thing they say about assumptions?

If you mean to categorize every group of humans that has ever lived in the territory as a "Russian", fine. But technically Russians are a specific ethnic group. One which is completely unrelated to the people whom crossed the land bridge.

russians are about as much of a specific group as americans are. eastern and western russians look nothing alike
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I think the only discovery that amounts to anything is Columbus's, since he reported back and brought people who actually colonized the country rather than just nomads and smaller groups of settlers.
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] except i never said Europeans i said Russians, there are Russians in Asia, they have been there since the time of the land bridge and continue to be there today, what is that thing they say about assumptions?surrealnumber5
If you mean to categorize every group of humans that has ever lived in the territory as a "Russian", fine. But technically Russians are a specific ethnic group. One which is completely unrelated to the people whom crossed the land bridge.

russians are about as much of a specific group as americans are. eastern and western russians look nothing alike

Russians nationally and Russians ethnically mean very different things. Nationally, anyone who lives from Moscow to Vladivostok is Russian, but ethnically Russian refers to a very specific group of East Slavic people that emerged in the early Middle Ages. The Empire they created over the next few hundred years technically made people citizens of Russia, but not necessarily Russian by ethnicity.
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I think the only discovery that amounts to anything is Columbus's, since he reported back and brought people who actually colonized the country rather than just nomads and smaller groups of settlers.JustPlainLucas
That's a bit Eurocentric isn't it (not to mention confusing, what is "the country" that Columbus colonized?), to say there were only nomads and small groups in the Americas? When Cortes discovered Tenochitlan, it was bigger than any city in Europe. Not to mention the Incan Empire, which is estimated to have as many as 20 million people at its height. These were societies which complex bureaucracies, political structures and economies. They did lack certain advantages Europeans had; smelting, horses, advanced naval technology and, fatally, resistance to diseases, but it wasn't like exclusively hunter gatherer societies or anything.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"] If you mean to categorize every group of humans that has ever lived in the territory as a "Russian", fine. But technically Russians are a specific ethnic group. One which is completely unrelated to the people whom crossed the land bridge.Danm_999
russians are about as much of a specific group as americans are. eastern and western russians look nothing alike

Russians nationally and Russians ethnically mean very different things. Nationally, anyone who lives from Moscow to Vladivostok is Russian, but ethnically Russian refers to a very specific group of East Slavic people that emerged in the early Middle Ages. The Empire they created over the next few hundred years technically made people citizens of Russia, but not necessarily Russian by ethnicity.

and if you or he decided to look back at my first post i stated russian as it was where the land bridge connected asia and north america, never once did i say slavic or ever talk about a specific "race" or ethnicity. the people who went to north america were going there from russia and there for were russian till they became american.
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and if you or he decided to look back at my first post i stated russian as it was where the land bridge connected asia and north america, never once did i say slavic or ever talk about a specific "race" or ethnicity. the people who went to north america were going there from russia and there for were russian till they became american. surrealnumber5
The people who went to North America were going there from Asia. They were Asians.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]and if you or he decided to look back at my first post i stated russian as it was where the land bridge connected asia and north america, never once did i say slavic or ever talk about a specific "race" or ethnicity. the people who went to north america were going there from russia and there for were russian till they became american. ThePlothole
The people who went to North America were going there from Asia. They were Asians.

they were from asia yes but more specific they were crossing the landbridge in russia, they were not setting sail from china india or cambodia, i chose to be more specific as i also gave the state as to where they migrated too ALASKA.
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]and if you or he decided to look back at my first post i stated russian as it was where the land bridge connected asia and north america, never once did i say slavic or ever talk about a specific "race" or ethnicity. the people who went to north america were going there from russia and there for were russian till they became american. surrealnumber5
The people who went to North America were going there from Asia. They were Asians.

they were from asia yes but more specific they were crossing the landbridge in russia, they were not setting sail from china india or cambodia, i chose to be more specific as i also gave the state as to where they migrated too ALASKA.

There was no Russia then though. To call them Russian is completely illogical, whether from a citizenship or ethnic perspective. They weren't all from where modern Russia anyway, lots of them came from Central Asia. Not to mention the landbridge they crossed no longer exists (it's ocean, hence it can't be in Russia), and many of them doubtless came from lands which no longer exists due to rising sea levels. I'm sorry if I sound rude or anything, I'm just a bit baffled by your quite strong statement that the USA was originally inhabited by Russians. It was originally inhabited by migrants peoples from Central and South Asia.
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I think the only discovery that amounts to anything is Columbus's, since he reported back and brought people who actually colonized the country rather than just nomads and smaller groups of settlers.JustPlainLucas

The Vikings of Norway knew of "Vinland", as they called it, long before and had reports of it. Leif Ericsson was his name.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"] The people who went to North America were going there from Asia. They were Asians. Danm_999
they were from asia yes but more specific they were crossing the landbridge in russia, they were not setting sail from china india or cambodia, i chose to be more specific as i also gave the state as to where they migrated too ALASKA.

There was no Russia then though. To call them Russian is completely illogical, whether from a citizenship or ethnic perspective. They weren't all from where modern Russia anyway, lots of them came from Central Asia. Not to mention the landbridge they crossed no longer exists (it's ocean, hence it can't be in Russia), and many of them doubtless came from lands which no longer exists due to rising sea levels. I'm sorry if I sound rude or anything, I'm just a bit baffled by your quite strong statement that the USA was originally inhabited by Russians. It was originally inhabited by migrants peoples from Central and South Asia.

it is completely illogical to use terms that people can identify with? i would like to know your logic behind that.
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#38 Mr_Alexander
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This shouldn't really be a "poll" or someones opinion, it's either a fact or it's not. The Vikings (Leif Eiriksson, representin' Iceland, yo) were the first to discover it. Oh, and I SERIOUSLY doubt that a Japanese fishing canoe made in the year 200 could have more than a snowball's chance in hell of traveling 6000 miles, and why would they even try in the first place?
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]I think the only discovery that amounts to anything is Columbus's, since he reported back and brought people who actually colonized the country rather than just nomads and smaller groups of settlers.trasherhead

The Vikings of Norway knew of "Vinland", as they called it, long before and had reports of it. Leif Ericsson was his name.

Don't confuse "Norse" with "Norway", Leif was Icelandic :)
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The first settlers came from Eurasia and expanded to there through the Bering Strait.
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.. What are now known as the Native American people were the first on the continent.. Vikings were the next.. And Columbus was the last.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] it is completely illogical to use terms that people can identify with? i would like to know your logic behind that.

I'd be surprised of anyone who understood the term Russian, but not Asian.
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]I think the only discovery that amounts to anything is Columbus's, since he reported back and brought people who actually colonized the country rather than just nomads and smaller groups of settlers.Mr_Alexander

The Vikings of Norway knew of "Vinland", as they called it, long before and had reports of it. Leif Ericsson was his name.

Don't confuse "Norse" with "Norway", Leif was Icelandic :)

At the time Iceland was a Norwegian colony. As with most of the isles in the Nordic sea. I do use the word colony loosely now, as those who moved there was Norwegian Vikings escaping religious prosecution by the Christians,
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I think the only discovery that amounts to anything is Columbus's, since he reported back and brought people who actually colonized the country rather than just nomads and smaller groups of settlers.JustPlainLucas
So the millions of people who were already occupying the Americas don't "amount to anything"? Ignorant much?
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[QUOTE="Mr_Alexander"][QUOTE="trasherhead"]

The Vikings of Norway knew of "Vinland", as they called it, long before and had reports of it. Leif Ericsson was his name.

trasherhead

Don't confuse "Norse" with "Norway", Leif was Icelandic :)

At the time Iceland was a Norwegian colony. As with most of the isles in the Nordic sea. I do use the word colony loosely now, as those who moved there was Norwegian Vikings escaping religious prosecution by the Christians,

yeah your going to have to show a link on that one.. The main reason that I have read about was the overpopulation of the lands that led to them branching out to places like Great Britain and England as colonies.. These were not peaceful, these were conquests.

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[QUOTE="trasherhead"][QUOTE="Mr_Alexander"] Don't confuse "Norse" with "Norway", Leif was Icelandic :)sSubZerOo

At the time Iceland was a Norwegian colony. As with most of the isles in the Nordic sea. I do use the word colony loosely now, as those who moved there was Norwegian Vikings escaping religious prosecution by the Christians,

yeah your going to have to show a link on that one.. The main reason that I have read about was the overpopulation of the lands that led to them branching out to places like Great Britain and England as colonies.. These were not peaceful, these were conquests.

You are very right when it comes to WHY we "settled" around the Nordic sea. Overpopulation and we wanted more land. But a majority, unlike what movies and games teach us, was trade and exploration. But for iceland at the time around year 1000 there was a lot of people fleeing from norway because our dear "beloved" king, St.Olav, used some rather harsh means to make people believe in christianity. Such as chopping them to bits. This is information that we are taught in school here in Norway. I could not find any english source, so if you want to believe me or let this fall in "link or it didn't happen" is up to you. I have no reason to sugarcoat my people's history. We did terrible things with brute force. And the only reason the British isles wasn't conquered by the vikings was a betrayal. But that said, not everyone who went out did it to murder, rape and pillage :P
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The Ice Age mongoloids that crossed the Bering Strait land bridge. Then the Chinese. Then the Scandanavians/Icelanders. Then Christopher Columbus.

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The americas were never "discovered." There were always people living here.