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Its a good cause or whatever, but my god. Can they be any lamer and annoying? i swear whenever my tv is on i hear this commercial come on every other break from a program. And they have no effect on me wanting to smoke or not. anyone else feel this way?Vikes2005
Often times they are inaccurate or misleading. Propaganda at its finest.
Parents, school, work, public transportation, the advertisements are everywhere. Why do we also have to see it on TV? The one place I go to relax, and almost every commercial segment has a Anti-drug commercial.
Its a good cause or whatever, but my god. Can they be any lamer and annoying? i swear whenever my tv is on i hear this commercial come on every other break from a program. And they have no effect on me wanting to smoke or not. anyone else feel this way?Vikes2005
Like, there's this one "Truth" commercial where they are saying "The CEO of a major tobacco company said that he'd probably apologize if it was discovered that his product causes cancer."
Then they cut to a scene where "cool black guy [because black guys are cool] who doesn't smoke" shows up at the tobacco company headquarters and yells "SO WHERE'S THE APOLOGY?"
He said he'd PROBABLY apologize, mother*******. PROBABLY. Do you ****ing know what "PROBABLY" means? Do you need a freaking dictionary? You think that the fact that you don't even know BASIC ****ING VOCABULARY is enough to get me to quit smoking?
Of course, they also made it a black guy who didn't know basic vocabulary. Which is stereotypically racist, in addition to being annoying and just plain stupid.
McGeezer I have been calling you "MC Geezer" for the longest time, and I just realized that it's MR, will you ever forgive me?
(btw, I got modded recently for saying a joke like that, so despite how non-offensive and funny that was, I expect you to be banned forever. Nice knowing you..)
They make me want to smoke, which is probably not their desired effect.Andrew_Xavier
I recently quit my job. Went there to pick up my paycheck. Was leaving on my way to my car.
This one customer who I happened to know (and who always gave me **** about smoking and tried to get me to give my money to Jesus) walked up to me, and asked me why I haven't quit smoking yet, and if I've even tried to find Jesus.
My response, of course, was to take FOUR cigarettes out, light all of them at once, take the biggest drag I've ever taken in my entire life, then blow it right back into her ****ing stinky ugly broke-ass face.
And then, as she was PRETENDING to cough her lungs out, I said "**** your god and **** you. If you want to get in my business for smoking, it's only fair that I ask you why you weigh 400 ****ing pounds and smell like you haven't bathed in two weeks."
[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]They make me want to smoke, which is probably not their desired effect.MrGeezer
I recently quit my job. Went there to pick up my paycheck. Was leaving on my way to my car.
This one customer who I happened to know (and who always gave me **** about smoking and tried to get me to give my money to Jesus) walked up to me, and asked me why I haven't quit smoking yet, and if I've even tried to find Jesus.
My response, of course, was to take FOUR cigarettes out, light all of them at once, take the biggest drag I've ever taken in my entire life, then blow it right back into her ****ing stinky ugly broke-ass face.
And then, as she was PRETENDING to cough her lungs out, I said "**** your god and **** you. If you want to get in my business for smoking, it's only fair that I ask you why you weigh 400 ****ing pounds and smell like you haven't bathed in two weeks."
Thats quite horrible, im sure you we're annoyed but seriously..
Just like those "Abovetheinfluence" commercials. Yeah,you shouldn't do drugs because they are bad.. why? Well... just don't! Listen to us, we know what we're talking about. It's just another form a influence. I love the irony in these propaganda machines.Wetall_basic
UH - *BBZZZ* WROOONG!
See, in one commercial it clearly shows, that dogs don't like it when you smoke, and that if you smoke, they will kill you in your sleep (that part is subliminal).
[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]
Just like those "Abovetheinfluence" commercials. Yeah,you shouldn't do drugs because they are bad.. why? Well... just don't! Listen to us, we know what we're talking about. It's just another form a influence. I love the irony in these propaganda machines.ElArab
UH - *BBZZZ* WROOONG!
See, in one commercial it clearly shows, that dogs don't like it when you smoke, and that if you smoke, they will kill you in your sleep (that part is subliminal).
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]They make me want to smoke, which is probably not their desired effect.kruesader
I recently quit my job. Went there to pick up my paycheck. Was leaving on my way to my car.
This one customer who I happened to know (and who always gave me **** about smoking and tried to get me to give my money to Jesus) walked up to me, and asked me why I haven't quit smoking yet, and if I've even tried to find Jesus.
My response, of course, was to take FOUR cigarettes out, light all of them at once, take the biggest drag I've ever taken in my entire life, then blow it right back into her ****ing stinky ugly broke-ass face.
And then, as she was PRETENDING to cough her lungs out, I said "**** your god and **** you. If you want to get in my business for smoking, it's only fair that I ask you why you weigh 400 ****ing pounds and smell like you haven't bathed in two weeks."
Thats quite horrible, im sure you we're annoyed but seriously..
Annoyance isn't the issue. The issue is common ****ing courtesy, and the fact that if you don't ****ing know me, you'd damn well better be without sin before you start casting stones.
Because if you smell like a toilet and you are giving me money, I'll be nice as hell. But the second that some toilet-smelling POS comes up to me and starts trying to get in my business just because her dad died of cancer, I'm DAMN sure gonna throw her personal hygeine right back in her ****ing face (provided that she is no longer a customer of mine, and is no longer giving me money).
It's like they say..."people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."
No one is without "sin". The only difference is, I don't randomly walk up to fat and/or stinky people and say "DAMN! God, you STINK!"
Or "DAMN! Dude, you're fat! Put down the cheeseburger!!"
Why don't I do these things? BECAUSE THEY ARE ****ING RUDE.
It's none of their ****ing business if I smoke. NONE of therir business. They ONLY approach me because I work there and can't say **** to them, which is the exact same reason why pathetic ****ing losers go to the nudie bar every friday night and try to pick up naqked chicks with no ****ing success.
I don't beat up on poor or stinky people. If I go somewhere and a stinky person sits next to me, I won't even walk away. Because I do not ENJOY being rude and offensive.
If they want to stink, that's their business and I respect that.
But if you stink, or are morbidly obese, or are just plain ugly, AND I am not relying on being nice to you to make money, then do NOT feel like you have any business givingme **** for minding my own ****ing business. Because like I said, no one is without sin. You walk up to me and try to act uppity to me, I'll throw YOUR sins right back in your ****ing face.
[QUOTE="Vikes2005"]Its a good cause or whatever, but my god. Can they be any lamer and annoying? i swear whenever my tv is on i hear this commercial come on every other break from a program. And they have no effect on me wanting to smoke or not. anyone else feel this way?Frattracide
Often times they are inaccurate or misleading. Propaganda at its finest.
I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
Kritical_Strike
[QUOTE="ElArab"][QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]
Just like those "Abovetheinfluence" commercials. Yeah,you shouldn't do drugs because they are bad.. why? Well... just don't! Listen to us, we know what we're talking about. It's just another form a influence. I love the irony in these propaganda machines.Wetall_basic
UH - *BBZZZ* WROOONG!
See, in one commercial it clearly shows, that dogs don't like it when you smoke, and that if you smoke, they will kill you in your sleep (that part is subliminal).
How this commercial would have happened if the ATI morons weren't directing it:
Hey Lindsey...
SWEET MERCIFUL RAPTOR JESUS! A TALKING DOG!
Wait, Lindsey, I need to talk to you ab...
BY THE TRIDENT OF POSEIDON I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN TALK!!! HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS?!
Well, I've got more important issues to discuss...I've noticed that...
BY THE BEARD OF ZEUS! YOU ARE SO ARTICULATE AND WELL SPOKEN! HEY, SAY LINDESY IS RLY HAWT!! PLZ!!
Ok seriously, back on topic please...or I'll report you to the police...
BY THE ICONIC FEATURE OF A GREEK GOD! YOU CAN USE THE PHONE TOO?! OH MAN, I DON'T THINK ATI IS ROLLING ANYMORE! I'LL GO GET MY CAMERA! YOU STAY RIGHT THERE!
Don't know the commercials in question, but I remember a bunch of drunk driving commercials that I thought were really powerful.
It has the camera on someone asking "When are you going to stop drinking and driving", and they start saying "when so-and-so happens, and as they're listing them off, out of nowhere they end up in a car crash. There's one where someone walking along a sidewalk when a car sends him flying, another where a woman is in the passenger seat when the car gets teaboned, and a third where the car is in a head on collision. These are staged accidents, but look incredibly real, and I think are incredibly powerful.
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
Wetall_basic
Meh, if it saves a few ignorant 14 year olds from smoking then I don't mind.
[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
Kritical_Strike
Meh, if it saves a few ignorant 14 year olds from smoking then I don't mind.
[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Vikes2005"]Its a good cause or whatever, but my god. Can they be any lamer and annoying? i swear whenever my tv is on i hear this commercial come on every other break from a program. And they have no effect on me wanting to smoke or not. anyone else feel this way?Kritical_Strike
Often times they are inaccurate or misleading. Propaganda at its finest.
I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
Yeah, I can see your point. Nanny sate fraud is sooo much better than personal responsibility and liberty.
I just think they're dumb because anyone with half a brain who has at least a BASIC education should already know the crap they repeat over and over on those commercials. Plus the analogies and comparisons they use aren't even legitimate.
Don't get me wrong, I don't smoke (cigarettes that is). In fact, my uncle just died of lung cancer last wednesday and today was the funeral. =/
But in this day and age, theres no excuse for using ignorance as an excuse to smoke, and I'd rather not see dollars go to waste on stupid commercials about things we already know and have proven scientifically.
[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]They make me want to smoke, which is probably not their desired effect.MrGeezer
I recently quit my job. Went there to pick up my paycheck. Was leaving on my way to my car.
This one customer who I happened to know (and who always gave me **** about smoking and tried to get me to give my money to Jesus) walked up to me, and asked me why I haven't quit smoking yet, and if I've even tried to find Jesus.
My response, of course, was to take FOUR cigarettes out, light all of them at once, take the biggest drag I've ever taken in my entire life, then blow it right back into her ****ing stinky ugly broke-ass face.
And then, as she was PRETENDING to cough her lungs out, I said "**** your god and **** you. If you want to get in my business for smoking, it's only fair that I ask you why you weigh 400 ****ing pounds and smell like you haven't bathed in two weeks."
Oh and this is the BEST THING I'VE READ ALL DAY!!!! Oh my god what a riot! That's so awesome hahaha.
Reminds me of that Rob Reiner episode of South Park. He's trying to get people to quit smoking (and even tried to kill Cartman over it) but hes constantly stuffing his face with donuts and stuff and is all sweaty and winded from obesity. Hahaha oh the irony.
Well, they helped influence the smoking ban in public places which I like. It also encouraged the ban on smoking in privately owned public places, which is dumb and too dictatorial for my liking.
Overall, I don't care for them, but they are more entertaining than the hundreds of "Geiko" or "P.T.Barnum Attorney at Law" commercials just itching to take their place.
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
Wetall_basic
Meh, if it saves a few ignorant 14 year olds from smoking then I don't mind.
This isn't some kind of big issue. It isn't humanitarian. They aren't lying about AIDS statistics in Africa, or the death toll in Iraq. This is SMOKING, who the hell cares if the ads are spreading lies? If you can be convinced by ONE ad the chances are you're too young to make the decision to smoke, a choice that will most likely follow you thoughout life with its addiction.
So yeah I really don't care about exaggerating facts to save some youth from self-destruction.
[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
Kritical_Strike
Meh, if it saves a few ignorant 14 year olds from smoking then I don't mind.
This isn't some kind of big issue. It isn't humanitarian. They aren't lying about AIDS statistics in Africa, or the death toll in Iraq. This is SMOKING, who the hell cares if the ads are spreading lies? If you can be convinced by ONE ad the chances are you're too young to make the decision to smoke, a choice that will most likely follow you thoughout life with its addiction.
So yeah I really don't care about exaggerating facts to save some youth from self-destruction.
Fraud is fraud. Why can't they just be allowed to make decision on their own?
[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]I'd rather have a population of people ignorant of smoking, as opposed to a population filled with smokers.
Kritical_Strike
Meh, if it saves a few ignorant 14 year olds from smoking then I don't mind.
This isn't some kind of big issue. It isn't humanitarian. They aren't lying about AIDS statistics in Africa, or the death toll in Iraq. This is SMOKING, who the hell cares if the ads are spreading lies? If you can be convinced by ONE ad the chances are you're too young to make the decision to smoke, a choice that will most likely follow you thoughout life with its addiction.
So yeah I really don't care about exaggerating facts to save some youth from self-destruction.
Isn't the reasoning in your last sentence used by a lot of corrupt governments and shady organizations?
This isn't some kind of big issue. It isn't humanitarian. They aren't lying about AIDS statistics in Africa, or the death toll in Iraq. This is SMOKING, who the hell cares if the ads are spreading lies? If you can be convinced by ONE ad the chances are you're too young to make the decision to smoke, a choice that will most likely follow you thoughout life with its addiction.
So yeah I really don't care about exaggerating facts to save some youth from self-destruction.
Kritical_Strike
Speaking as life-long non-smoker, I can honesty say I dislike them with passion.
First of all, last time I checked, I thought this was 2008...not 1964...
Second of all, most of the basic stuff is the kind of information that everyone and their mom is already well-aware of...
Third of all, for anyone worried about the health hazards of smoking, clearly marked on the product.
Fourth of all, Thank You For Smoking disagrees...
Fifth of all, and most important of all, is there not more important issues to be dealing with? How about the ever-growing obesity problem? Or how about the fact that basically, pharmacal companies have become your new drug dealer?
I remember having those drug awareness speeches back in elementary school and jr high. They listed all the effects of certain drugs and THEN the side effects and negative issues.
By the end of the guy's speech, I was like "WOW where can I find this LSD stuff!!!" And sure enough it followed me into high school when I found out I could actually get some.
Sometimes letting someone know something exists at a young age is a bad thing in itself, lol. I think if I didn't know what it was, I wouldn't have been so excited about trying it. I know in the movies theres always that guy whos all 'hey man try it out!!!!!' but usually in real life, that guy at the party wouldn't want to waste his drugs on a stranger whos obviously never done drugs before.
I know i'm generalizing, but not nearly as much as those stupid commercials do.
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]This isn't some kind of big issue. It isn't humanitarian. They aren't lying about AIDS statistics in Africa, or the death toll in Iraq. This is SMOKING, who the hell cares if the ads are spreading lies? If you can be convinced by ONE ad the chances are you're too young to make the decision to smoke, a choice that will most likely follow you thoughout life with its addiction.
So yeah I really don't care about exaggerating facts to save some youth from self-destruction.
Wetall_basic
It's more like exaggeration. The same way that McDonald's burgers look way better on commercials than they do in RL.
Outright lies I'm not into, but exaggerating the effects of smoking on some ad is nothing I'm going to whine about, it's for a good cause.
It's more like exaggeration. The same way that McDonald's burgers look way better on commercials than they do in RL.
Outright lies I'm not into, but exaggerating the effects of smoking on some ad is nothing I'm going to whine about, it's for a good cause.
Kritical_Strike
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]It's more like exaggeration. The same way that McDonald's burgers look way better on commercials than they do in RL.
Outright lies I'm not into, but exaggerating the effects of smoking on some ad is nothing I'm going to whine about, it's for a good cause.
Wetall_basic
I think you have to believe in an absolute, such as a religion to appreciate his argument. For myself, I figure you're going to die one way or another, might as well do it while doing something you enjoy.
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]It's more like exaggeration. The same way that McDonald's burgers look way better on commercials than they do in RL.
Outright lies I'm not into, but exaggerating the effects of smoking on some ad is nothing I'm going to whine about, it's for a good cause.
Wetall_basic
Based off of facts? What the heck?
What positive facts about smoking would convince someone to WANT to smoke? It's relaxing....
Well you can relax by giving yourself a heavy nosebleed, or listening to soothing music, or drinking soymilk. I assure you most teens who start smoking aren't fully aware of it's consequences.
I'm not a super anti-smoking person btw
Based off of facts? What the heck?
What positive facts about smoking would convince someone to WANT to smoke? It's relaxing....
Well you can relax by giving yourself a heavy nosebleed, or listening to soothing music, or drinking soymilk. I assure you most teens who start smoking aren't fully aware of it's consequences.
I'm not a super anti-smoking person btw
Kritical_Strike
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]Based off of facts? What the heck?
What positive facts about smoking would convince someone to WANT to smoke? It's relaxing....
Well you can relax by giving yourself a heavy nosebleed, or listening to soothing music, or drinking soymilk. I assure you most teens who start smoking aren't fully aware of it's consequences.
I'm not a super anti-smoking person btw
Wetall_basic
Now if only fast food had a warning on the bag saying "SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Food causes diabetes, obesity, lack of energy, and may complicate pregnancy."
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