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At first I thought they were equal. Obi wan was a jedi a lot longer than anakin, was trained by yoda and qui gonn, took anakin as his apprentice even when he was training for the jedi trials, and in episode 4, he prepared himself for death so we would become a force ghost with qui gonn's "love" technique. On the otherhand, anakin progressed a lot faster than others, extremely skilled in lightsaber combat as obi wan was, became a jedi very quick, and had the highest concentration of midi chlorians(some belive this is because anakin was created via the force by darth plagueis who later planed to replace palpatine with anakin).
But since anakin was a better pilot, was able to rebuild his combat style with his impairments, and mastered most aspects of the force, I would have to say he's more powerful. Also he didn't even have to learn the force ghost technique to become one when he died.
Before the Vader transformation, Obi Won was more powerful and experienced.
After the Vader transformation and the Emporer's Dark Side training, Vader was more powerful.
[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Wow you can't even spell Anakin Right? But Obi Wan was definitely Stronger, He just couldn't finish Anakin off and Stop all the troubles in the galaxy.DasacantIn obi's defense anakin was cut in half then he caught on fire >.> he seemed pretty dead. Yet Sidious could influence the midi-chlorians to give life to Anakin if he had died x)
Plagueis was murdered in his sleep by his apprentice. Im guessing his apprentice was Sidious but Im not sure, so Plagueis couldnt replace either Sidious or Vader.At first I thought they were equal. Obi wan was a jedi a lot longer than anakin, was trained by yoda and qui gonn, took anakin as his apprentice even when he was training for the jedi trials, and in episode 4, he prepared himself for death so we would become a force ghost with qui gonn's "love" technique. On the otherhand, anakin progressed a lot faster than others, extremely skilled in lightsaber combat as obi wan was, became a jedi very quick, and had the highest concentration of midi chlorians(some belive this is because anakin was created via the force by darth plagueis who later planed to replace palpatine with anakin).
But since anakin was a better pilot, was able to rebuild his combat style with his impairments, and mastered most aspects of the force, I would have to say he's more powerful. Also he didn't even have to learn the force ghost technique to become one when he died.
WushuFighter
[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="Matt-4542"]Kenobi was stronger, yet he loved Anakin like a son so he couldnt kill him. Matt-4542
But he was ok with cutting off his limbs and leaving him to burn alive...
He didnt want to kill him. The flames would finish him off, not Kenobi.I hear ya. I've often said:
"You know I like that guy, at worse I'd like to dismember him and let him burn alive. Nothing worse though, that would be too much for me to handle."
At first I thought they were equal. Obi wan was a jedi a lot longer than anakin, was trained by yoda and qui gonn, took anakin as his apprentice even when he was training for the jedi trials, and in episode 4, he prepared himself for death so we would become a force ghost with qui gonn's "love" technique. On the otherhand, anakin progressed a lot faster than others, extremely skilled in lightsaber combat as obi wan was, became a jedi very quick, and had the highest concentration of midi chlorians(some belive this is because anakin was created via the force by darth plagueis who later planed to replace palpatine with anakin).
But since anakin was a better pilot, was able to rebuild his combat style with his impairments, and mastered most aspects of the force, I would have to say he's more powerful. Also he didn't even have to learn the force ghost technique to become one when he died.
WushuFighter
yes but lets be fair most of the reason he was so good with a Lightsaber was because of Obi Wans training ?
[QUOTE="WushuFighter"]At first I thought they were equal. Obi wan was a jedi a lot longer than anakin, was trained by yoda and qui gonn, took anakin as his apprentice even when he was training for the jedi trials, and in episode 4, he prepared himself for death so we would become a force ghost with qui gonn's "love" technique. On the otherhand, anakin progressed a lot faster than others, extremely skilled in lightsaber combat as obi wan was, became a jedi very quick, and had the highest concentration of midi chlorians(some belive this is because anakin was created via the force by darth plagueis who later planed to replace palpatine with anakin).
But since anakin was a better pilot, was able to rebuild his combat style with his impairments, and mastered most aspects of the force, I would have to say he's more powerful. Also he didn't even have to learn the force ghost technique to become one when he died.
snakes_codec
yes but lets be fair most of the reason he was so good with a Lightsaber was because of Obi Wans training ?
The Force flowed through him. He was an amazing pilot so therefore he'd have to have amazing reflexes so he probably wouldve always been good with a blade. Some of it is because his training but I bet he couldnt done it regardless.At Mustafar: Obviously Kenobi
At the Death Star: Obviously Skywalker
When both are at their full potential: Skywalker would wipe the floor with Kenobi, although I love Kenobi.
Plagueis was murdered in his sleep by his apprentice. Im guessing his apprentice was Sidious but Im not sure, so Plagueis couldnt replace either Sidious or Vader.Matt-4542
I was talking about plagueis created anakin in an experiment or something and sidious killing him so he can become a sith lord. Plagueis was planning to use his creation as sidious' replacement and sidious killed plagueis because of that(ironicly sidious does the same with his apprentices lol). From all the reading I did a while ago, I'm not to sure if sidious even learned how to influence midi chlorians or create life. It's possible but he never taught vader or even mentioned how he would train him in that alchemist skill. However, sidious can transfer from one body to another to escape death which is how he came back after luke created a jedi new order.
[QUOTE="snakes_codec"][QUOTE="WushuFighter"]At first I thought they were equal. Obi wan was a jedi a lot longer than anakin, was trained by yoda and qui gonn, took anakin as his apprentice even when he was training for the jedi trials, and in episode 4, he prepared himself for death so we would become a force ghost with qui gonn's "love" technique. On the otherhand, anakin progressed a lot faster than others, extremely skilled in lightsaber combat as obi wan was, became a jedi very quick, and had the highest concentration of midi chlorians(some belive this is because anakin was created via the force by darth plagueis who later planed to replace palpatine with anakin).
But since anakin was a better pilot, was able to rebuild his combat style with his impairments, and mastered most aspects of the force, I would have to say he's more powerful. Also he didn't even have to learn the force ghost technique to become one when he died.
Matt-4542
yes but lets be fair most of the reason he was so good with a Lightsaber was because of Obi Wans training ?
The Force flowed through him. He was an amazing pilot so therefore he'd have to have amazing reflexes so he probably wouldve always been good with a blade. Some of it is because his training but I bet he couldnt done it regardless.Luke did though. He only had a year or two of training and managed to become a jedi knight, defeated vader, and shortly became a master afterwards.
I just look at it as rock paper scissors
Obi-wan>Anakin
Anakin>Dooku
Dooku>Obi-wan
I guess Anakin had more potential, but Obi-wan had experience over him.
[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]Kenobi was stronger, yet he loved Anakin like a son so he couldnt kill him. duxup
But he was ok with cutting off his limbs and leaving him to burn alive...
yea whats wrong with that? I would rather not kill some1 directly than indirectly.
Anakin was more powerful than Yoda, the most powerful Jedi at the time, as a child. After growing up and submitting to the dark side of the Force he literally became "more powerful than anyone could imagine." He is mother ****ing Darth Vader... Obi-wan is a respectable Jedi but he is a weakling in comparison to Anakin.Yoda had the best knowledge of the force, but Windu was the most skilled with a lighsaber. And Anakin himself describes Obi-Wan in this way: "As wise as Master Yoda and as Powerful as Master Windu" And we saw what happened when Obi Wan and Anakin fought. One walked away, and one had his limbs removed and was set on fire.
And Luke Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi ever. Easily. He moved planets with the Force.
foxhound_fox
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Anakin was more powerful than Yoda, the most powerful Jedi at the time, as a child. After growing up and submitting to the dark side of the Force he literally became "more powerful than anyone could imagine." He is mother ****ing Darth Vader... Obi-wan is a respectable Jedi but he is a weakling in comparison to Anakin.Yoda had the best knowledge of the force, but Windu was the most skilled with a lighsaber. And Anakin himself describes Obi-Wan in this way: "As wise as Master Yoda and as Powerful as Master Windu" And we saw what happened when Obi Wan and Anakin fought. One walked away, and one had his limbs removed and was set on fire.
And Luke Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi ever. Easily. He moved planets with the Force.
famicommander
Look at my post on page 1.
Yoda had the best knowledge of the force, but Windu was the most skilled with a lighsaber. And Anakin himself describes Obi-Wan in this way: "As wise as Master Yoda and as Powerful as Master Windu" And we saw what happened when Obi Wan and Anakin fought. One walked away, and one had his limbs removed and was set on fire.famicommander
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