Who Won The War Of 1812???

americans like to think they won, the candians like to think they won, and the brits were only interested in napoleon. but who won?

Tough call, the war didn't really change too much so I gave it a tie, but some big wins were scored for both sides.

Tchaikovsky. That's about it.

Tchaikovsky. That's about it.

Verge_6

both the british and the us had their fare share of wins and defeats throughout the various battles, but in the end the americans were able to defeat the british (i think that is how we finally kicked the british out of north america?)fluffers623

I haven't studied much about the war of 1812 besides what I learned in grade 10 but from what I understand the U.S wanted to gain ground into Canada and it was a goal that they ultimately lost. If the U.S invaded Russia and Russia pushed them back, how would it signify a U.S victory?

The obvious answer is it wouldn't. I'm pretty sure most people look at the war as a British/Canadian victory excluding some of the general population in the U.S. It's a undeniable fact that the U.S did win many battles during the war but the battles are pretty useless if they lost the ground they conquered in the end.

They were pushed back and that's why the British and most Canadians look at the war as a victory and not a tie or a loss. The military goal was to keep the U.S out of Canada and it was accomplished.

um... no. British didn't do anything, technically. USA just got mad at Britain for some weird reason...funsohng

One of those "weird" reasons: British warships were intercepting and boarding U.S. merchant ships, and forcing U.S. sailors to join the Royal Navy.

We did. :evil:

Technically a tie, but really, we burned your White House.funsohng

We burned Toronto.

I haven't studied much about the war of 1812 besides what I learned in grade 10 but from what I understand the U.S wanted to gain ground into Canada and it was a goal that they ultimately lost. If the U.S invaded Russia and Russia pushed them back, how would it signify a U.S victory?

The obvious answer is it wouldn't. I'm pretty sure most people look at the war as a British/Canadian victory excluding some of the general population in the U.S. It's a undeniable fact that the U.S did win many battles during the war but the battles are pretty useless if they lost the ground they conquered in the end.

They were pushed back and that's why the British and most Canadians look at the war as a victory and not a tie or a loss. The military goal was to keep the U.S out of Canada and it was accomplished.

XileLord

It doesn't really count as a victory when your capital city gets burnt to the ground...Bourbons3

Well, no concessions were made in the treaty, but they torched D.C.

native americans lost and the british won. britain completed its goal of defending canada and in europe of defeating france. they got european peace for 100 years and became pretty much the worlds only superpower until ww1. also remember that britain had its best officers and regiments fighting in spain and portugal for most of the war. i think americans see it as them defending themselves from another british takeover, but in reality the british were terrified of france at the time and weren't interested in america, they signed the peace treaty as quickly as they could.

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]It doesn't really count as a victory when your capital city gets burnt to the ground...sherman-tank1

It doesn't really count as a victory when your capital city gets burnt to the ground...Bourbons3

[QUOTE="XileLord"]

I haven't studied much about the war of 1812 besides what I learned in grade 10 but from what I understand the U.S wanted to gain ground into Canada and it was a goal that they ultimately lost. If the U.S invaded Russia and Russia pushed them back, how would it signify a U.S victory?

The obvious answer is it wouldn't. I'm pretty sure most people look at the war as a British/Canadian victory excluding some of the general population in the U.S. It's a undeniable fact that the U.S did win many battles during the war but the battles are pretty useless if they lost the ground they conquered in the end.

They were pushed back and that's why the British and most Canadians look at the war as a victory and not a tie or a loss. The military goal was to keep the U.S out of Canada and it was accomplished.

sherman-tank1

As far as the actual fighting it was definitely a U.S loss because they failed to accomplish there objectives while the British/Canadians succeeded at there's. If you're talking about the overall war and it's effects in the long run then the only people who truly lost anything were the Indians.

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]It doesn't really count as a victory when your capital city gets burnt to the ground...scorch-62

Well the US president said taking Canada would be as easy as marching so I guess the Canadians won (the redcoats weren't really invloved)

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"]It doesn't really count as a victory when your capital city gets burnt to the ground...Bourbons3

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"]It doesn't really count as a victory when your capital city gets burnt to the ground...Bourbons3

Well the US president said taking Canada would be as easy as marching so I guess the Canadians won (the redcoats weren't really involved)

LaytonsCat

[QUOTE="funsohng"]um... no. British didn't do anything, technically. USA just got mad at Britain for some weird reason...Oleg_Huzwog

One of those "weird" reasons: British warships were intercepting and boarding U.S. merchant ships, and forcing U.S. sailors to join the Royal Navy.

By pretty much every reasonable metric, no one won. The treaty resulting from the war quite literally said, "Yeah, remember how things were before the war? Let's go back to that kthx."

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Technically a tie, but really, we burned your White House.Silverbond

We burned Toronto.

I thought the indians and france won

Technically a tie, but really, we burned your White House.funsohng

We burned Toronto.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

We burned Toronto.

fidosim

Well there was this thing called the White House, you might have heard of it... :P

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Technically a tie, but really, we burned your White House.funsohng

We burned Toronto.

Just like it is now. Ka-zing!

But I love Toronto! :o

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="funsohng"] yeah but Toronto in 1812 (which was called York, then) had nothing there. Just like it is now. Ka-zing!GabuEx

Well there was this thing called the White House, you might have heard of it... :P

Well the US president said taking Canada would be as easy as marching so I guess the Canadians won (the redcoats weren't really invloved)

LaytonsCat

what?first of all they didn't actually call themselves canadians back then, canada didnt exist. there was around 10,000 british regulars, officers and marines in british north america at the time. british officers didn't trust militia. battles like queenston heights were won by british regiments

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

We burned Toronto.

Silverbond

Just like it is now. Ka-zing!

But I love Toronto! :o

I'm an American and in our history classes in public school they taught us that although there was no technical winner, that Britain essentially won the war.Vennligsinnet

This while it ended up in pretty much as others have said " Lets just go back to being pals" was the ultimate outcome, the British essentially won. We most certainly did pull off some good wins against them, including doing that little hold out that got us our national anthem. Were just lucky the British didn't even care about US and didn't want to fight, the only reason fought them was cause the genius in office at the time thought it was a good idea to declare war on the British.

Granted, they were doing a number on our merchant shipping, though can't really blame them since that shipping was aiding the enemy they had been fighting against for about a decade in the first war of its kind ( War against Napoleon is cited as being the first " World War" Since justa bout all the world powers were involved in it")

But yeah, was technically a stalemate, though for the debate of " who did better" I say its easily the British. Though not exactly hard for it to turn out that way.

Didn't the British whoop America's ass? History class was a long time ago and I don't remember.wstfld

Technically a tie, but really, we burned your White House.funsohng

Well, The British didn't take over America so i consider that a win for the United States.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Technically a tie, but really, we burned your White House.Silverbond

We burned Toronto.