Who would win in a war USA or Russia?

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#1 caribo2222
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I would say the USA

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#2 xLFTMx
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M.A.D

Mutually Assured Destruction.

Done.

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#3 Pffrbt
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Both would win a war.

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USA
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The cockroaches.

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#6 th3warr1or
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Russia. They don't care about their people.
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#7 Sagem28
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Ever played Fallout ? Cause that's pretty much how its gonna end up.

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#8 vaultboy_ninja
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Ever played Fallout ? Cause that's pretty much how its gonna end up.

Sagem28

No that's China.

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#9 knightseason
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If it was just between them and no one else got involved they would both lose. Then whatever is left of them would beg for aid with rebuilding and everything

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#10 MagnumPI
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Nobody would win, because Russia would resort tofull nuclear strike because they can't compete with usby sea, land nor air. So their inability to effectivelyfight a conventional with theU.S.A would lead to desperation. And their nuclear strike would lead to our nuclear retaliation. Nobody wins when everything worth the effort is destroyed in the process. And nobody wins a war anyway, it's not a game and lives aren't game pieces. War is the last resort. War is a condition is which two or more opposing forces attempt to remove their obstaclesby force. It's not an event, it's a solution.

It's nota win or loss in terms of putting a notch on your belt for bragging rights. Win is not the correct word. It's gain or loss. Wars come with an interest and what could be gained or lost all depends on how much it directly effects the participants. It also depends on how much the outcome of the war would directly effect the U.S.A. If it were to fought on foreign soil the loss is notsubstantial. We could cut our losses andforfeitonce thepotential losses begin toout weigh the possiblegain. But if war were to set foot in North America we would have no choice but to stay in the fight until it's over. There wouldn't be anything to gain but we could lose everything. So we would have to fight to keep it.

If letting someone believe they have won an event will stop futile destruction and waste of lives then I would rather leave it at that then continue killing and destroying just to flaunt. You'll only prove that war is fought by and perpetuated by children.

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#11 Bladecutter56
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Why would we want Russia anyway, 90% of it is arid wasteland.

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#12 VaguelyTagged
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there is no such a thing as war.

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#13 Palantas
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The US has more options with which to win a war.
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#14 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Ever played Fallout ? Cause that's pretty much how its gonna end up.

vaultboy_ninja

No that's China.

Russia has about 10 times the amount of nukes the Chinese have, so yeah.

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#15 Bladecutter56
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[QUOTE="vaultboy_ninja"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Ever played Fallout ? Cause that's pretty much how its gonna end up.

Sagem28

No that's China.

Russia has about 10 times the amount of nukes the Chinese have, so yeah.

Russia doesn't export (seemingly) 90% of the USA's stuff.

Our nukes are probably Made in China.

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#16 Treflis
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None of them, both aswell as a huge majority of the world would be layed to waste and fall into utter chaos as a war between the two would be a nuclear war.
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In a conventional war i would have to say the US but we all know that's not gonna happen, of course both Russia and USA would use their nukes and kaboom total annihilation lol
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Ever played Fallout ? Cause that's pretty much how its gonna end up.

Sagem28

All the wreckage of our cars will suddenly become microfusion powered? Laser guns will be found in crates, radiation poisoning will not make it's mind up whether it's going to kill you or provide you will life span increasing mutations?

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gravemakers?
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Microsoft?

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Neither
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="vaultboy_ninja"]No that's China.

Bladecutter56

Russia has about 10 times the amount of nukes the Chinese have, so yeah.

Russia doesn't export (seemingly) 90% of the USA's stuff.

Our nukes are probably Made in China.

No, All of our equipment is manufactured in the United States. Some components are made elsewhere than imported. But they are inspected and approved before assembled. Often whatever it is comes in pieces and is inspected by engineers before assembled. All of their specs are U.S engineering specs.

We have policies on small arms that says they must be manufactured and fabricated in the United States by qualified citizens. It might be a foreign product but it's made here and the owners get their share of profit because the patents. Same for everything else.

Some things are importedbut everything is assembled and inspected in the U.S. Do you think we would really trust them? Everything is inspected and assembled here. Especially warheads.

As for what russia has. They may have a lot of missles stockpiled but that doesn't mean that have just as meany warheads. Russia had to destroy and dispose of alot of the warheads they had. Many were damaged and poorly fabricrated. A lot of them were stolen too. Their stockpile became their own disaster. They disposed ofactive waste by puting it indrums that weren't even designed to hold up against oxidation from the weather. They didn't know what to do with it. So they burried it in deserted areas which are now nuclear wastelands. They can't clean it up, they still don't have the manpower and resourcesto maintain and store all of the warheads they SUPPOSEDLY still have. A stockpile of missles with no warheads is worthless.

Dirty bombs are made with expired warheads or nuclear waste. So you know they have been getting rid of their waste by selling to someone. Plus anyone with access to it that wants to make a buck can make the deal.

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#23 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Ever played Fallout ? Cause that's pretty much how its gonna end up.

Evil_Saluki

All the wreckage of our cars will suddenly become microfusion powered? Laser guns will be found in crates, radiation poisoning will not make it's mind up whether it's going to kill you or provide you will life span increasing mutations?

Well duh,
And you forgot about the giant reprogrammed anti-communist robot that will pwn the remaining descendants of the US government and military.

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#24 killerfist
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I think neither will have the balls to do anything in fear of what will happen.

If both would go to war with eachother..everyone, especially eastern European countries will lose.

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#25 SirWander
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Didn't we already beat the Russians, OOOOOOOOHHHH! Burn, more like ICE burn (get it the cold war). Because like The U.S.S.R. had to dissolve when internal politics and dwindling economy caved itself in leaving the USA as the sole Superpower in the world. Always bet on the Duke AKA AMERICA.

F*** YEAH!!!!!!

Wrong America, but still yeah! :P

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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Ever played Fallout ? Cause that's pretty much how its gonna end up.

Evil_Saluki

All the wreckage of our cars will suddenly become microfusion powered? Laser guns will be found in crates, radiation poisoning will not make it's mind up whether it's going to kill you or provide you will life span increasing mutations?

Damn right. A future we all can look forward to.
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#27 JasonDarksavior
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Microsoft?

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Nuclear Fallout for everyone!
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#28 no_more_fayth
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The world as we know it would be obliterated.

We Americans would still yawp victoriously in the wake of the disaster.

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#29 Asim90
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Who cares? The only people that lose in war is us.

"It is fortunate for those in power that people do not think."
--Adolf Hitler

He couldn't have put it better.

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#30 surrealnumber5
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the world would lose, who cares what corrupt gov would win
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#31 lpjazzman220
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ummm...no one wins...baring wmd's...manpower wise...they have more people...and a bigger military...but we have better tech(marginally)...so it comes down to engagements at that point...and lets face it...if either side starts losing...wmd's will fly...and were all f*****

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#32 SerbWarrior
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Ufff boy...i am so not getting into this...

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#33 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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In today's world, both would lose, either economically or through losses in manpower or through mutual nuclear annihilation.
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#34 Blaminator1221
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Didn't we already beat the Russians, OOOOOOOOHHHH! Burn, more like ICE burn (get it the cold war). Because like The U.S.S.R. had to dissolve when internal politics and dwindling economy caved itself in leaving the USA as the sole Superpower in the world. Always bet on the Duke AKA AMERICA.

F*** YEAH!!!!!!

Wrong America, but still yeah! :P

SirWander

How old are you? Or were you just being satirical?

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#35 Crimsader
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Ask about a USA - Russia war on American forum... We all know that none will win - everybody will lose.
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#36 SerbWarrior
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...China...

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russia will win..its sad how they teach the americans that their army is invincible and that its still the best army in the world...they need to get up with the times
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M.A.D because of nuclear weapons.

russia will win..its sad how they teach the americans that their army is invincible and that its still the best army in the world...they need to get up with the timeslightleggy

You're the one who needs to get with the times if you believe that.

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M.A.D because of nuclear weapons.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]russia will win..its sad how they teach the americans that their army is invincible and that its still the best army in the world...they need to get up with the timesUnknownSniper65

You're the one who needs to get with the times if you believe that.

I know that russia has one crappy army now, but its just an example to say that americans should stop believing that their army is the best army in the world...put israel in a field with usa, and tell them to start a war, see who gets crushed :lol:
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In a conventional war, the US would annihilate Russia.

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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

M.A.D because of nuclear weapons.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]russia will win..its sad how they teach the americans that their army is invincible and that its still the best army in the world...they need to get up with the timeslightleggy

You're the one who needs to get with the times if you believe that.

I know that russia has one crappy army now, but its just an example to say that americans should stop believing that their army is the best army in the world...put israel in a field with usa, and tell them to start a war, see who gets crushed :lol:

I'm assuming you came to this conclusion based on years of experience in military tactics and strategy?

Right. ;)

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

You're the one who needs to get with the times if you believe that.

UnknownSniper65

I know that russia has one crappy army now, but its just an example to say that americans should stop believing that their army is the best army in the world...put israel in a field with usa, and tell them to start a war, see who gets crushed :lol:

I'm assuming you came to this conclusion based on years of experience in military tactics and strategy?

Right. ;)

on the fact that israel has more manpower, more firepower, better tactics/officers overall, their soldiers are trained more efficiently and they have technology as good as the US...yes, israel would crush the US in a war, even if you dont like that
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] I know that russia has one crappy army now, but its just an example to say that americans should stop believing that their army is the best army in the world...put israel in a field with usa, and tell them to start a war, see who gets crushed :lol:lightleggy

I'm assuming you came to this conclusion based on years of experience in military tactics and strategy?

Right. ;)

on the fact that israel has more manpower, more firepower, better tactics/officers overall, their soldiers are trained more efficiently and they have technology as good as the US...yes, israel would crush the US in a war, even if you dont like that

israel would crush the US in a war? i hope you're joking..

edit: more manpower? lmao.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

I'm assuming you came to this conclusion based on years of experience in military tactics and strategy?

Right. ;)

_7h0m_

on the fact that israel has more manpower, more firepower, better tactics/officers overall, their soldiers are trained more efficiently and they have technology as good as the US...yes, israel would crush the US in a war, even if you dont like that

israel would crush the US in a war? i hope you're joking..

edit: more manpower? lmao.

oh you americans and your air of superiority :lol: I bet that you think that israel army is something comparable to afghan militia
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[QUOTE="_7h0m_"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] on the fact that israel has more manpower, more firepower, better tactics/officers overall, their soldiers are trained more efficiently and they have technology as good as the US...yes, israel would crush the US in a war, even if you dont like thatlightleggy

israel would crush the US in a war? i hope you're joking..

edit: more manpower? lmao.

oh you americans and your air of superiority :lol: I bet that you think that israel army is something comparable to afghan militia

i'm not american... are you from israel?
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

I know that russia has one crappy army now, but its just an example to say that americans should stop believing that their army is the best army in the world...put israel in a field with usa, and tell them to start a war, see who gets crushed :lol:lightleggy

I'm assuming you came to this conclusion based on years of experience in military tactics and strategy?

Right. ;)

on the fact that israel has more manpower, more firepower, better tactics/officers overall, their soldiers are trained more efficiently and they have technology as good as the US...yes, israel would crush the US in a war, even if you dont like that

How do they have more firepower and better technology? The US spends more on defense than the rest of the world combined. Besides, Israel's recent performance against bands of Hezbollah was disastrous.
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#47 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="_7h0m_"] israel would crush the US in a war? i hope you're joking..

edit: more manpower? lmao.

_7h0m_

oh you americans and your air of superiority :lol: I bet that you think that israel army is something comparable to afghan militia

i'm not american... are you from israel?

no, im french-latin, dont know what the correct term would be

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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] I know that russia has one crappy army now, but its just an example to say that americans should stop believing that their army is the best army in the world...put israel in a field with usa, and tell them to start a war, see who gets crushed :lol:lightleggy

I'm assuming you came to this conclusion based on years of experience in military tactics and strategy?

Right. ;)

on the fact that israel has more manpower, more firepower, better tactics/officers overall, their soldiers are trained more efficiently and they have technology as good as the US...yes, israel would crush the US in a war, even if you dont like that

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[QUOTE="_7h0m_"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] oh you americans and your air of superiority :lol: I bet that you think that israel army is something comparable to afghan militialightleggy

i'm not american... are you from israel?

no, im french-latin, dont know what the correct term would be

Pig latin?

Frog latin?

Joking, don't worry. =3

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

I'm assuming you came to this conclusion based on years of experience in military tactics and strategy?

Right. ;)

sonicare

on the fact that israel has more manpower, more firepower, better tactics/officers overall, their soldiers are trained more efficiently and they have technology as good as the US...yes, israel would crush the US in a war, even if you dont like that

How do they have more firepower and better technology? The US spends more on defense than the rest of the world combined. Besides, Israel's recent performance against bands of Hezbollah was disastrous.

israel is a world potence and they are one of the world's richest countries, they spend a holyfricking****load of money in their military. im not 100% sure if they spend more than the US though, i'll have to research that one