Who would win? Ninja vs. Samurai.

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#1 Matthew-first
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Who would win?
Ninja or Samurai?
A 1vs1 fight.

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PICK , VOTE and justify your decision.
(Ill answer after sum posts.)

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#2 almasdeathchild
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wasnt this on deadliest warrior?

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#3 Alter_Echo
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Neither since they would both be too exhausted to fight having already done so in the other 89320092173829214438291723 threads asking the same thing.

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#4 branketra
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It depends. Samanosuke would beat most ninjas, but Ryu Hayabusa is the best ninja there is. Naruto ninjas are pretty incredible, but my opinion hasn't changed.
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#5 Chris_Williams
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Ninja

there really isn't anything to discuss, Samurai's have codes, Ninja's do not, they will play dirty and do what they have to do to win. Good example is the Matrix movies, Neo didn't have rules, he could do anything he wanted, he was truly limitless . The agents had rules and hence why he could beat them.

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#6 Lord_Daemon
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Well since a ninja is just a collective myth of a bunch of things various people with various skills accomplished by default the samurai would sort of come out on top. But if you want to pull the best qualified historical example with a ninja being a mercenary merely employing recon and guerrilla tactics and pull him out in the open then the samurai would no doubt win as they tended to just safely spear people from horses and preferably in groups.

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#7 Willy105
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Ninjas are better assassins, but Samurai would win post-humosly because they die with honor.
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#8 SteverXIII
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Considering the fact that a ninja blends into his surroundings and should be near invisible, he'd have the samurai taken out no bother
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#9 SteverXIII
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Because they die with honor.Willy105
There is no honor in death.
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#10 tjricardo089
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I think that the Samurai has too many armor and that would make him slower.

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#11 Nengo_Flow
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wasnt this on deadliest warrior?

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yeah, and I think the samurai won by a large margin
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#12 dercoo
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Straight up fight, Samurai as they are actually elite fighting soldiers wearing proper battle attire.

Ninja are supposed to avoid and outrun fights when ever possible, taking common farmer, merchant, or worker clothes over armor.

They specialize in intelligence & indirect warfare, so a traditional battlefield fight not in their favor.

That said, European Knight trumps both.

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#13 branketra
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It depends. Samanosuke would beat most ninjas, but Ryu Hayabusa is the best ninja there is. Naruto ninjas are pretty incredible, but my opinion hasn't changed.BranKetra
I just realized that I didn't give a clear answer. Ninjas would win.
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#14 branketra
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Ninjas are better assassins, but Samurai would win post-humosly because they die with honor.Willy105
I see what you did there.
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#15 Matthew-first
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Neither since they would both be too exhausted to fight having already done so in the other 89320092173829214438291723 threads asking the same thing.

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I don't spend 1029920841203948120398 h on gamespot forums and check all like you. :)

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#16 Pirate700
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Samurai as the ninjas portrayed in today's pop culture didn't exist.

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#17 dramaybaz
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Straight fight, possibly Samurai. But if you take into account the whole attack at night/ assasinate thing, then ninja.
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#18 Necrifer
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This isn't fair.

Ninjas had an edge over the samurai. They were sneaky little bastards and weren't weighed down with a code of honor like the samurai. The ninja killed samurai on a daily basis because they would attack from nowhere while the samurai were defenseless.

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#19 NeonNinja
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Asking if a samurai or ninja would win is stupid. It's not like all samurai and ninja were pulled out of the same cooking pot. Each person is different, so basing it off of a profession (or whatever you would call it) is just dumb.

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#20 Matthew-first
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Asking if a samurai or ninja would win is stupid. It's not like all samurai and ninja were pulled out of the same cooking pot. Each person is different, so basing it off of a profession (or whatever you would call it) is just dumb.

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So when people ask who would win Batman or Superman... is dumb too? riight... NEXT PLEASE!

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#21 branketra
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Asking if a samurai or ninja would win is stupid. It's not like all samurai and ninja were pulled out of the same cooking pot. Each person is different, so basing it off of a profession (or whatever you would call it) is just dumb.

Matthew-first



So when people ask who would win Batman or Superman... is dumb too? riight... NEXT PLEASE!

He has a point.

It would be more like asking whether heroes or villains are better.

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#22 ristactionjakso
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Samurai would win with ease in a 1vs 1 straight up fight.

Ninjas are skilled in assassinations. They didn't really fight. Sure they were skilled with a sword, but theyre main purpose was to assassinate.

Samurai were sword masters. They also had other waepons like the spear they were skilled with too. In a straight up fight, without running away, samurai wins.

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#23 hippiesanta
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samurai fight with honour for some tyrant..... = he lost
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#24 rilpas
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Asking if a samurai or ninja would win is stupid. It's not like all samurai and ninja were pulled out of the same cooking pot. Each person is different, so basing it off of a profession (or whatever you would call it) is just dumb.

Matthew-first



So when people ask who would win Batman or Superman... is dumb too? riight... NEXT PLEASE!

wow did you completly miss his point

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#25 DealRogers
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Samurais not only had honor, they were physically stronger so they were better in close combat. Of course a ninja wins if we are talking about backstabbing or surprise attacks.

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#26 Lief_Ericson
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Well ninja were created to kill samurai so obviously a ninja

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#27 Drakes_Fortune
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Samurai. On The Last Samurai, there is a scene where the samuais kill a bunch of ninjas.
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#28 Pirate700
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Well ninja were created to kill samurai so obviously a ninja

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No they weren't...

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#29 Necrifer
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No they weren't...

Pirate700

They were indeed.

Ninjas fought against the oppressive regime upheld by the samurai.

Edit: *A good amount of ninjas

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#30 branketra
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Samurai. On The Last Samurai, there is a scene where the samuais kill a bunch of ninjas.Drakes_Fortune
I liked the one with the bow and arrow.
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#31 capowell1999
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Ninjas would have an advantage most of the time including items like Shruiken,Poison darts,etc but 1 on 1? they were skilled fighters but i doubt they could take on Samurai.

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#32 Sword-Demon
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weren't ninja initially created specifically to kill samurai?

either way, the outcome depends entirely on the conditions of the fight.

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#33 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

No they weren't...

Necrifer

They were indeed.

Ninjas fought against the oppressive regime upheld by the samurai.

Edit: *A good amount of ninjas

Though at the same time, one on one fight could mean a one on one battle where both are in an arena or whatever.

Ninja's had an advantage in stealth attacks, in direct combat the armored Samurai might have the advantage, so it depends what TC means by 1 on 1.

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#34 Skarwolf
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Ninja are samurai.

Samurai are what knights were to western europe. Those who didn't have a lord and went rogue were considered ninja.

When the mongols attempted to invade Japan the samurai valued one on one fights. The mongols would be lined up and a renowned samurai would waltz out and challenge them. Shortly later he'd be dead full of arrows. The samurai had to learn how to fight as a team not as a solo player.

As for who would win the question isn't logical.

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#35 Necrifer
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Ninja are samurai.

Samurai are what knights were to western europe. Those who didn't have a lord and went rogue were considered ninja.

When the mongols attempted to invade Japan the samurai valued one on one fights. The mongols would be lined up and a renowned samurai would waltz out and challenge them. Shortly later he'd be dead full of arrows. The samurai had to learn how to fight as a team not as a solo player.

As for who would win the question isn't logical.

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Ninja=/=Ronin

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#36 ninjastar
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ninja:P

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#37 Wasdie  Moderator
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Realistically, in a 1v1, the samurai would destory the ninja. Ninja's aren't as cool as you think they are, they are far more practical.

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#38 Aquat1cF1sh
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Samurai. I think ninjas are overrated.
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#39 Apathetic_Prick
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As far as I remember, Ninja were mainly used for two things - plots and assassinations. The most famous ninja in history weren't one-on-one warriors, and mostly killed people indirectly. Hanzo Hattori was a tactician and Kotaro Fuma was an assassin, for example. Ninjitsu is mainly a stealth art, and many of the weapons associated with it are loan-styles from Karate, Jiujitsu and Judo; Most of which, along with Kendo, a Samurai will already have mastered - barring Karate, which was almost entirely developed by civilians to protect themselves from said Samurai - by the age of 18.

In a one-on-one fight, an armoured samurai has several advantages against a ninja; Thrown darts and improvised bows are almost completely useless against their armour, which is a style of platemail; they'd have to get in far too close to use them. However, a gama or kusari-gama would be extremely effective for immobilising a samurai for the kill. The problem is, these weapons make too much noise for actual stealth. I'd say a samurai has at least an 80% chance at victory here.

And whoever said that the Samurai were the same thing as knights are on drugs. The closest cultural reference that is a legitimate comparison are those Selyuk Turk slaves that were trained to be literate warriors. Samurai live a life of indentured servitude. A knight is the farthest thing from that; they're the bottom echelon of the Western feudal nobility heirarchy.

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#40 RAGEofSTUNTS
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Ninjas would have an advantage most of the time including items like Shruiken,Poison darts,etc but 1 on 1? they were skilled fighters but i doubt they could take on Samurai.

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#41 cheynz
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They lived in the same time, regular peasants became ninjas and fought samurais to avoid opression. So regular citizens or trained warrior? Samurai 1 on 1. If it was night and the ninja was allowed to strike premptively, then the ninja but not in an actual battle. Ninjas are made for stealth and infiltration, not fighting.

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#42 campzor
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ninja.. Samurai are lame.
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#43 MaverickOutcast
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Hmm, I remember on the History Channel that I had seen long ago, that stated that more ninjas were known to have killed samurai, than samurai were to have killed ninjas (Not to saying that this applied to all samurai)

...Can't remember its title:cry:...

Anyway I think samurai are cooler though!

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#45 Princess_Lime
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Well seeing as ninjas were created specifically to defeat samurai I go with ninja.
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#46 branketra
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Well seeing as ninjas were created specifically to defeat samurai I go with ninja.Princess_Lime
...They were?....
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#47 FMAB_GTO
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I doubt a samurai is fast enough to dodge a shower of shurikens.
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Cowboy out of nowhere.

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#49 Necrifer
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[QUOTE="Princess_Lime"]Well seeing as ninjas were created specifically to defeat samurai I go with ninja.BranKetra
...They were?....

Pretty much.

Assassinate lords and kill their bodyguards (samurai) in the process.

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#50 hiphops_savior
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In a straight up fight, Samurai wins (no rules, just kill or be killed and samurai can be pragmatic in combat). Ninjas would win if they get the preemptive strike (posing as a traveler on the road and killing the samurai while unarmored, or assassinating the samurai while they're asleep).