Who's better??? US Marines or Army Rangers???

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#1 NicktehImperial
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So in your opinion, which is better???

US Marines???

Or Army Rangers???

I'll say Marines!!! But they both kick ass, but in Russia, ass kicks YOU!!!!

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i have no clue.. but ITS YOU that i got the russia thing from xD!! i spammed my friends with in russia, military joins YOU!
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The Power Rangers?
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#4 Doom_HellKnight
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Royal Marines... :P
But anyway, no idea.
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#5 desktopdefender
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I wouldnt know......

But you can always count on America;)

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It doesn't matter. The Ninja Turtles would kick both of their collective asses. :|
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#7 thanatose
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Marines get better trainning that the base US Army soldier but Army Rangers get that extra training that bring them pretty much on par with Marines. I've known a lot of both and have seen both in action.
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#8 darkfox101
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Hmm id say Rangers.. first they have combat experience right? since they have fought before? THen they get more intense training.. plus they can be deployed anywhere in the world within 18 hours
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The Power Rangers?SolidSnake3W5

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The NATO Rainbow unit.... Of course they are fictitious. But I like to pretend they are real... 8)
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#11 Hot_Potato
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Marines separate males from females in the beginning of BT. Male DIs train male soldiers, and female DIs train female soldiers. This ensures that both groups are being pushed harder, so that way women aren't given a break by male DIs, and men will only have to keep up with the slower pace.

Marines also get 3-4 more weeks training

Marines>Army

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Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.
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The Navy SEALs.
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#14 Mumbles527
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A pack of wild monkeys would put them both to shame.
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#15 NicktehImperial
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Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.hama666

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

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#16 NicktehImperial
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The Navy SEALs.krazykillaz

USMC Force Recon would slaughter them!!!!!

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[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.NicktehImperial

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

Please explain how that is anti-american....And yes we do have regular infantry.

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It doesn't matter. The Ninja Turtles would kick both of their collective asses. :|Ryeferd

Ninja Turtles suck, Albanian conscripts could put them to shame!!!! Marines and Rangers would'nt even need guns to kill them!!!

Delta force and SAS could just use they're minds to make the turtles explode!!!

And a Jedi or Sith wouldn't even need to use his lightsaber or force powers to kill them!!!! Just LOOK at them and the Turtles would explode!!!!

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#19 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.jointed

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

Please explain how that is anti-american....And yes we do have regular infantry.

Well, I geuss its anti American because he put down two of our elite fighting forces....

Meh, maybe its not anti USA, who cares anyway...

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#20 NicktehImperial
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A pack of wild monkeys would put them both to shame.Mumbles527

O rly???

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#21 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.NicktehImperial

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

Please explain how that is anti-american....And yes we do have regular infantry.

Well, I geuss its anti American because he put down two of our elite fighting forces....

Meh, maybe its not anti USA, who cares anyway...

Jointed: If you want to here an anti American joke, heres one....

Why did the terrorists want to recruit Micheal Vick????

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[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.NicktehImperial

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.


Sorry, but I had to laugh at that.
Of course we have Infantry soldiers.
Enjoy. Details all of the combat jobs available in the regular army. Look, where it lists 'Infantry Soldier'.

Obviously, being a listing of jobs found in the army, it won't include special forces and commandos.
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[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]A pack of wild monkeys would put them both to shame.NicktehImperial

O rly???

Definitely. Look at my comparison below: A US Marine: A Wild Monkey: The winner is obvious.
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#24 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.Doom_HellKnight

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.


Sorry, but I had to laugh at that.
Of course we have Infantry soldiers.
Enjoy. Details all of the combat jobs available in the regular army. Look, where it lists 'Infantry Soldier'.

Cool!!!

One thing I never liked about the British military is the rank system, why can't it move with the times like the American rank system???

But even in America's military, our Navy has the most confusing ranks ever, like theres a special rank for Warrant officer 3's that are Muslim Chaplains in the medical corps!!! What the hell!!!

And our Army, what the hell is aspecialist for!!!!I thought WARRANT OFFICE'S were enough!!!

And nowthe MArines are getting rid of Warrant officer 1, so its only 2, 3, 4, and 5, but no WO1, WTF!?!?!?

Also, the Lance Corporal rank, itshigher than PVT and PFC, but itsstill not an NCO rank, so its the highest enlisted rank, but if you notice in some eliteunits, theres NO privates or PFC's, but only LCpl's!!!Like in my dad's old float book, everyone in the 26th MEU isLCpl or above,but no regular pivates..... A little over the edge sometimes.

Oh and the Navy private rankis called a "Seamen", what were they thinking!!!!

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#25 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]A pack of wild monkeys would put them both to shame.Mumbles527

O rly???

Definitely. Look at my comparison below: A US Marine: A Wild Monkey: The winner is obvious.

But the Marine is highly trained and has agun.... Phail

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One thing I never liked about the British military is the rank system, why can't it move with the times like the American rank system???

NicktehImperial

It obviously works fine for us, otherwise we would have changed it by now...
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#28 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

One thing I never liked about the British military is the rank system, why can't it move with the times like the American rank system???

Doom_HellKnight

It obviously works fine for us, otherwise we would have changed it by now...

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#29 NicktehImperial
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The Power Rangers?SolidSnake35

I like your new sig....

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[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.NicktehImperial

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

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But the Marine is highly trained and has agun.... Phail

NicktehImperial

The monkey possesses superior intelligence...

Seriously though, only joking.
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Marines are trained a little bit better as far as the infantry part, but they are roughly the same.
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#33 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.hama666

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

1: Yes I know you have a large amount of regular foot soldiers, OBVIOUSLY, but you just make it seem like commando's are all that matters in war, obviously every armed force has to have some commando's so you can't say that Army Rangers and MArines suck because YOU have elite commando's you know the Army has Green berets, and the MArines have force recon. LOGIC!!!!

2: I was just kidding, most of you English people aren't anti America, except for Jointed obviously, but he's not just anti America, he's anti everything!!! BTW Terrorists and extremists hate us just as msuch as they hate YOU!!!

3: THIS IS SPARTA!!!! (Kicks you itnto hole.) ((Buts in Soviet Russia, hole kicks YOU!!!))

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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.hama666

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

Ok, first off i would like to say that, that is the most ignorant post i've seen, the Royal Marines are good thats a given, but the US has far more combat experience and our tactics and technology are unrivaled by other countries. You cant say who's better until you've seen them both in action. As for the SAS, US Marine Force Recon would walk over them.
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Rangers have better training and have you seen Black Hawk Down
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Marines...
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Rangers have better training and have you seen Black Hawk Down Lief_Ericson

1. No they dont

2. Thats a Movie and the majority of the soldiers were Delta Force.

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[QUOTE="hama666"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.UrbanSpartan125

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

Ok, first off i would like to say that, that is the most ignorant post i've seen, the Royal Marines are good thats a given, but the US has far more combat experience and our tactics and technology are unrivaled by other countries. You cant say who's better until you've seen them both in action. As for the SAS, US Marine Force Recon would walk over them.[/QUOTE]

USMC Force Recon guys are good, bt they don't have magical powers like the SAS dude.....

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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="hama666"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.NicktehImperial

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

Ok, first off i would like to say that, that is the most ignorant post i've seen, the Royal Marines are good thats a given, but the US has far more combat experience and our tactics and technology are unrivaled by other countries. You cant say who's better until you've seen them both in action. As for the SAS, US Marine Force Recon would walk over them.[/QUOTE]

USMC Force Recon guys are good, bt they don't have magical powers like the SAS dude.....

I know, but who needs magic power, when you got firepower. Force Recon would win hands down.
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No idea. I'd not want to cross either of them.
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="hama666"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.UrbanSpartan125

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

Ok, first off i would like to say that, that is the most ignorant post i've seen, the Royal Marines are good thats a given, but the US has far more combat experience and our tactics and technology are unrivaled by other countries. You cant say who's better until you've seen them both in action. As for the SAS, US Marine Force Recon would walk over them.[/QUOTE]

USMC Force Recon guys are good, bt they don't have magical powers like the SAS dude.....

I know, but who needs magic power, when you got firepower.

Aren't you a MArine??? Or didn't you just become one??? Are you going on a float with a MEU???

From the story's my dad tells me about his experience in the 26th MEU it was awesome. And you get medals for it. My dad got out after 4 years with 8 medals because of his two floats!!!

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Marines are trained a little bit better as far as the infantry part, but they are roughly the same.UrbanSpartan125

Haven't you seen the 385794569432652 other Marine movies???

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#43 NicktehImperial
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i have no clue.. but ITS YOU that i got the russia thing from xD!! i spammed my friends with in russia, military joins YOU!darkfox101

LOL good to here that I'm famous.

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[QUOTE="hama666"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.UrbanSpartan125

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

Ok, first off i would like to say that, that is the most ignorant post i've seen, the Royal Marines are good thats a given, but the US has far more combat experience and our tactics and technology are unrivaled by other countries. You cant say who's better until you've seen them both in action. As for the SAS, US Marine Force Recon would walk over them.

ehm....what? You're contradicting yourself....

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#45 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="hama666"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="hama666"]Theyre both a bunch of pansies, The British SAS and Royal marines walk all over them.jointed

No offense, but do you Brits hae ANY non Commando's??? Like any base infantry soldiers??? You can say "Ooh teh SAS pwnzorz" but sometimes it comes down to regular soldiers and Marines!!! Not everyone has be a commando!!! Plus we already do have Commando's like Green Berets, Pathfinders, Sappers, Force Recon, Navy Seals, and those Air force guys, I forget what they're called, and atlast, DELTA FORCE, which is owned by the Pentagon.

Stop being anti American, the fad is stupid.

1) No we obviously have no infantry, everyone involved in our armed forces is a commando. Even the catering staff are commandos.

2) How on earth am I being anti-american? do you see me burning a US flag exclaiming "death to america!" Thats like saying im racist towards Mexicans because I dont like tacos.

3) What the hell are "polititions"?

Ok, first off i would like to say that, that is the most ignorant post i've seen, the Royal Marines are good thats a given, but the US has far more combat experience and our tactics and technology are unrivaled by other countries. You cant say who's better until you've seen them both in action. As for the SAS, US Marine Force Recon would walk over them.

ehm....what? You're contradicting yourself....

He's being overpatriotic Jointed, in real life the SAS would destroy Force Recon, Force Recon is good, but they have no magical powers like the SAS....

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How did this thread turn into a US vs. UK thread? Last time I checked, it will be highly unlikely that the US and UK would wage war against each other. Especially with their upcoming combined planned invasion of Finland. . . .
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#47 NicktehImperial
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How did this thread turn into a US vs. UK thread? Last time I checked, it will be highly unlikely that the US and UK would wage war against each other. Especially with their upcoming combined planned invasion of Finland. . . .sonicare

No I love our friends across the pond!!! They're awesome and our closest allies!!!!

Now Canadians on the other hand, they're plotting to take over the US!!! I swear they're all Commies in disguise!!! Those Frosty Freaks!!!!

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I have no idea, I'm guessing marines.
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]How did this thread turn into a US vs. UK thread? Last time I checked, it will be highly unlikely that the US and UK would wage war against each other. Especially with their upcoming combined planned invasion of Finland. . . .NicktehImperial

No I love our friends across the pond!!! They're awesome and our closest allies!!!!

Now Canadians on the other hand, they're plotting to take over the US!!! I swear they're all Commies in disguise!!! Those Frosty Freaks!!!!

Well, it's well known that Canada was secretly conquered by Russia back in the days. They infilrated the Tim Horton's chain and from there Canada fell easily. No coffee and doughnuts makes for a huge energy and morale drain.

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#50 Veemon_X
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I'd say they both even out some way or another. Well they perform their functions. I think Marine training is a bit tougher than the Army training. But the point is that they are on the same side.