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#1 Lil_Dwayne
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Me personaly, i am against cigarettes and drugs but i don't understand why the cigarette isn't in the "drugs list" together with weed\cheeba\indo (baa it has at least 20 names...). I mean i know that cigarettes are less dangerous in meanings of health than the weed but the cigarette is the number one facor of cancer in the world and many people dying becuase of this ****. Both weed and cigarette work by smoking them i mean it's the same action to both of them but cigarette still ain't illegal...

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#2 1stCommando
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Stop pushing the new topic button.
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#3 Lil_Dwayne
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Stop pushing the new topic button.1stCommando

I can press it if I damn well please.

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#4 3DayFinisher
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Good source of income for the government.
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#5 Lil_Dwayne
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Good source of income for the government.3DayFinisher

just imagine what weed would do. I bet there are more weed smokers than cig smokers.

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#6 chester706
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Good source of income for the government.3DayFinisher
HUGE Source. I acutally am glad they are legal I do not smoke. My dad does I find it to suck but if we didnt have them our government would be screwed in finances.
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#7 kruesader
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Good source of income for the government.3DayFinisher

Exactly, greed

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#8 3DayFinisher
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just imagine what weed would do. I bet there are more weed smokers than cig smokers.Lil_Dwayne
On the average cigarettes are much less harmful than weed is.
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#9 vickersfan
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Me personaly, i am against cigarettes and drugs but i don't understand why the cigarette isn't in the "drugs list" together with weed\cheeba\indo (baa it has at least 20 names...). I mean i know that cigarettes are less dangerous in meanings of health than the weed but the cigarette is the number one facor of cancer in the world and many people dying becuase of this ****. Both weed and cigarette work by smoking them i mean it's the same action to both of them but cigarette still ain't illegal...

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lol so...what happened to the plan of "having lots of sex and drugs" in the thread jus bellow???
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#11 Wetall_basic
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Because that silly thing "freedom" still exists.
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#12 vickersfan
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Me personaly, i am against cigarettes and drugs but i don't understand why the cigarette isn't in the "drugs list" together with weed\cheeba\indo (baa it has at least 20 names...). I mean i know that cigarettes are less dangerous in meanings of health than the weed but the cigarette is the number one facor of cancer in the world and many people dying becuase of this ****. Both weed and cigarette work by smoking them i mean it's the same action to both of them but cigarette still ain't illegal...

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lol so...what happened to the plan of "having lots of sex and drugs" in the thread jus bellow???
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#13 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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They arent under the "drugs" category because they have no intoxicating or motor skill impairing qualities. One of the reasons the federal govt cracks down on drugs is because they are afraid if someone gets a little high, then they will go out and murder babies or something.
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#14 Lil_Dwayne
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[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]

Me personaly, i am against cigarettes and drugs but i don't understand why the cigarette isn't in the "drugs list" together with weed\cheeba\indo (baa it has at least 20 names...). I mean i know that cigarettes are less dangerous in meanings of health than the weed but the cigarette is the number one facor of cancer in the world and many people dying becuase of this ****. Both weed and cigarette work by smoking them i mean it's the same action to both of them but cigarette still ain't illegal...

vickersfan

lol so...what happened to the plan of "having lots of sex and drugs" in the thread jus bellow???

What are these untrue things you spread about me? I would never have sucha plan!

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Probably because it would seem to be entirly unfeasable and most people would simply find it ridiculous.

What about the millons of people addicted to them? are they just going to go cold turkey? Idk how one would solve that problem.

You'll also have to deal with the fact that most people, even non-smokers would not be willing to accept the government telling them what they can anf cannot do or put into their bodies.

I enjoy smoking tobacco (not cigs) and would have no problem if they made cigs pure tobacco rather than having them put in various toxic chemicals but I wouldnt knoe how that would be done.

Also smoking pot is not as bad as being addicted to ciggerettes in terms of detriment to ones health, but my laptop is running low on batteries so I wont have time to debate not to mention its already off topic.

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[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]They arent under the "drugs" category because they have no intoxicating or motor skill impairing qualities. One of the reasons the federal govt cracks down on drugs is because they are afraid if someone gets a little high, then they will go out and murder babies or something.1stCommando
Actually Nicotine is a drug. Just like Alcohol. They both give you a "buzz" and impair your ability to think.

Nicotine does not have the ability to create intoxication or severely impair motor skills, therefore is not listed as an illegal drug. That was part of my modern american government textbook int he chapter about modern problems. Thats what the government has said in documents why they havent banned cigarettes.

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#17 vickersfan
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[QUOTE="vickersfan"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]

Me personaly, i am against cigarettes and drugs but i don't understand why the cigarette isn't in the "drugs list" together with weed\cheeba\indo (baa it has at least 20 names...). I mean i know that cigarettes are less dangerous in meanings of health than the weed but the cigarette is the number one facor of cancer in the world and many people dying becuase of this ****. Both weed and cigarette work by smoking them i mean it's the same action to both of them but cigarette still ain't illegal...

Lil_Dwayne

lol so...what happened to the plan of "having lots of sex and drugs" in the thread jus bellow???

What are these untrue things you spread about me? I would never have sucha plan!

oyea we got a real saint in the forums tonight yall!:D
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Probably because it would seem to be entirly unfeasable and most people would simply find it ridiculous.

What about the millons of people addicted to them? are they just going to go cold turkey? Idk how one would solve that problem.

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Yeah I dip tobacco and I tried quitting like 5 times cold turkey. I was in the most pissed off mood of my life. One time I made it over a week until I cracked and had to do it again. That's what I get for dipping for 4 years since I was 14. Every time I drive, hunt, fish, or play videogames I have to have a dip in my mouth.
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[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hillelslovak"]They arent under the "drugs" category because they have no intoxicating or motor skill impairing qualities. One of the reasons the federal govt cracks down on drugs is because they are afraid if someone gets a little high, then they will go out and murder babies or something.hillelslovak

Actually Nicotine is a drug. Just like Alcohol. They both give you a "buzz" and impair your ability to think.

Nicotine does not have the ability to create intoxication or severely impair motor skills, therefore is not listed as an illegal drug. That was part of my modern american government textbook int he chapter about modern problems. Thats what the government has said in documents why they havent banned cigarettes.

It does slightly intoxicate you. And it is in the list of drugs. Alcohol and Nicotine are on the same list of drugs as Marijuana and Ecstasy. The only difference is that they're legal.
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#20 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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Im not trying to be an ass, but what is the point of dipping? I can understand smoking, because something is burning away before your very eyes, but chew tastes terrible, and you just spit it out. What's the point.
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#21 vickersfan
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Im not trying to be an ass, but what is the point of dipping? I can understand smoking, because something is burning away before your very eyes, but chew tastes terrible, and you just spit it out. What's the point.hillelslovak
thatz why i eat my chew in a nice crunchy taco:)
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#22 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]

[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hillelslovak"]They arent under the "drugs" category because they have no intoxicating or motor skill impairing qualities. One of the reasons the federal govt cracks down on drugs is because they are afraid if someone gets a little high, then they will go out and murder babies or something.1stCommando

Actually Nicotine is a drug. Just like Alcohol. They both give you a "buzz" and impair your ability to think.

Nicotine does not have the ability to create intoxication or severely impair motor skills, therefore is not listed as an illegal drug. That was part of my modern american government textbook int he chapter about modern problems. Thats what the government has said in documents why they havent banned cigarettes.

It does slightly intoxicate you. And it is in the list of drugs. Alcohol and Nicotine are on the same list of drugs as Marijuana and Ecstasy. The only difference is that they're legal.

I should have been more clear: They arent on the list of banned substances. And another reason why alcohol and cigarettes arent on the banned substance list is because it takes a substantially larger amount of either to impair the average person to the effect of what a much smaller amount of any certain banned substance would.

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#23 1stCommando
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Im not trying to be an ass, but what is the point of dipping? I can understand smoking, because something is burning away before your very eyes, but chew tastes terrible, and you just spit it out. What's the point.hillelslovak
Dip and chew are different. I've chewed and even though chew tastes like brown sugar, I like dip better because it has more nicotine and makes me feel better(dip doesn't taste as good). At first I did it because my dad did it and it gave me a buzz. Then it stopped giving me a buzz and I just do it because it makes me in a better mood and relaxes me.
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#24 X360PS3AMD05
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They should outlaw alcohol and cigarettes or legalize cannabis and MDMA as they're actually safer than the first two.
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#25 Toriko42
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People can smoke cigarettes if they want, just don't blow your smoke my way
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#26 X360PS3AMD05
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People can smoke cigarettes if they want, just don't blow your smoke my wayToriko42
Why not it smells good? :P
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#27 vickersfan
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]People can smoke cigarettes if they want, just don't blow your smoke my wayX360PS3AMD05
Why not it smells good? :P

actually the smell of cig smoke makes me hungry.
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#28 1stCommando
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People can smoke cigarettes if they want, just don't blow your smoke my wayToriko42
Agreed. See, dipping doesn't hurt other people unless they drink your spit bottle or something(my friend drank a whole bottle of my spit once for $20 and puked everywhere).
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#29 JackMcSexbeard
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Probably because it would seem to be entirly unfeasable and most people would simply find it ridiculous.

What about the millons of people addicted to them? are they just going to go cold turkey? Idk how one would solve that problem.

1stCommando

Yeah I dip tobacco and I tried quitting like 5 times cold turkey. I was in the most pissed off mood of my life. One time I made it over a week until I cracked and had to do it again. That's what I get for dipping for 4 years since I was 14. Every time I drive, hunt, fish, or play videogames I have to have a dip in my mouth.

Wow I didnt realize it was that addictive, but I guess if you did it so often at a young age then who knows. I actually tried it the first time a few days ago becuase my friend does it and talks about it being relaxing and giving you a buzz but I dont know, to be honest its was kinda weird, plus I suck at spitting for some reason and everytime Id spit Id git saliva and dip all around my mouth or clothes lol. I think id rather just smoke personally, I find that to be more relaxing.

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[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"]

Probably because it would seem to be entirly unfeasable and most people would simply find it ridiculous.

What about the millons of people addicted to them? are they just going to go cold turkey? Idk how one would solve that problem.

JackMcSexbeard

Yeah I dip tobacco and I tried quitting like 5 times cold turkey. I was in the most pissed off mood of my life. One time I made it over a week until I cracked and had to do it again. That's what I get for dipping for 4 years since I was 14. Every time I drive, hunt, fish, or play videogames I have to have a dip in my mouth.

Wow I didnt realize it was that addictive, but I guess if you did it so often at a young age then who knows. I actually tried it the first time a few days ago becuase my friend does it and talks about it being relaxing and giving you a buzz but I dont know, to be honest its was kinda weird, plus I suck at spitting for some reason and everytime Id spit Id git saliva and dip all around my mouth or clothes lol. I think id rather just smoke personally, I find that to be more relaxing.

Smoking is worse for your health, but dipping is more addictive. I didn't know that when I did it. I just stole some from my dad and was like, "hey this is great!". They say one pinch of dip has as much nicotine as 4 cigarettes. Haha you're a loser you can't spit! Jk jk.
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#31 JackMcSexbeard
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]People can smoke cigarettes if they want, just don't blow your smoke my way1stCommando
Agreed. See, dipping doesn't hurt other people unless they drink your spit bottle or something(my friend drank a whole bottle of my spit once for $20 and puked everywhere).

I almost did that by accident when I wasnt paying attention and my friend had it laying around his room, yea thats incredibly disgusting but funny.

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#32 vickersfan
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]People can smoke cigarettes if they want, just don't blow your smoke my way1stCommando
Agreed. See, dipping doesn't hurt other people unless they drink your spit bottle or something(my friend drank a whole bottle of my spit once for $20 and puked everywhere).

sick. your friend wouldn't happen to wear an orange parka and be named kenny mccormick would he?
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#33 X360PS3AMD05
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I think the dip gives you worse mouth cancer too :o
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[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]People can smoke cigarettes if they want, just don't blow your smoke my wayvickersfan
Agreed. See, dipping doesn't hurt other people unless they drink your spit bottle or something(my friend drank a whole bottle of my spit once for $20 and puked everywhere).

sick. your friend wouldn't happen to wear an orange parka and be named kenny mccormick would he?

Yeah that's him! He gets hooked on other drugs so easily! He even sniffs cat pee.
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I think the dip gives you worse mouth cancer too :oX360PS3AMD05
Good thing mouth cancer doesn't kill you like LUNG CANCER does.
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I think the dip gives you worse mouth cancer too :o1stCommando
Good thing mouth cancer doesn't kill you like LUNG CANCER does.

yea but dude you might as well die. we saw a vid in health class once about people that got mouth cancer from chew and they had to have pretty much their WHOLE JAW removed.:(
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I think the dip gives you worse mouth cancer too :o1stCommando
Good thing mouth cancer doesn't kill you like LUNG CANCER does.

Mouth cancer can make you look like a freak though (But so can throat cancer). This guy came to our school in like 2002 when I was in highschool and warned us about the dangers of chewing tobacco. He had this huge hole in his face, like someone had broken his jaw completely then cut off the hanging part. It, and he, was nasty.

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[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I think the dip gives you worse mouth cancer too :oX360PS3AMD05
Good thing mouth cancer doesn't kill you like LUNG CANCER does.

That's worse, i'd rather die than have a mouth that looks like this

my point exactly.:(
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I mean i know that cigarettes are less dangerous in meanings of health than the weed but the cigarette is the number one facor of cancer in the world and many people dying becuase of this ****. Both weed and cigarette work by smoking them i mean it's the same action to both of them but cigarette still ain't illegal...Lil_Dwayne

Cigarettes are worse than weed, cigs have nicotine which kills, weed is a herb, and nobody has ever died from weed. The only reason why weed is illegal is because the government can't tax weed. There are drugs that are much much worse, like salvia which is legal.

So next time it would help to know what you were talking about before you said anything, just because others say weed is bad doesn't mean its worse than cigarettes.

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#40 _Olimar
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Random guess here...

So many people smoke cigarettes hat is there suddenly banned then so many people will still be addicted so smuggeling will start, along with drug dealers having a new item on the menu...

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Good source of income for the government.3DayFinisher

This.

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#42 Rattlesnake_8
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They are legal because they are such a wonderful thing.
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Cigarettes are legal because the tobacco companies make millions upon millions of dollars a year on a product that has been around for a long time. They should be illegal, but they aren't.
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#44 mingo123
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doesnt too much sun light give you cancer as well? they must ban sun as well :D
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#45 -Wicked_Sick-
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Because the affects weren't known. Now a vast majority are addicted. Why does it bother you that some people smoke anyway?:|
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Me personaly, i am against cigarettes and drugs but i don't understand why the cigarette isn't in the "drugs list" together with weed\cheeba\indo (baa it has at least 20 names...). I mean i know that cigarettes are less dangerous in meanings of health than the weed but the cigarette is the number one facor of cancer in the world and many people dying becuase of this ****. Both weed and cigarette work by smoking them i mean it's the same action to both of them but cigarette still ain't illegal...

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I would like to see smoking (as well as alcohol) illegal. But there are so many smokers that the prison system simply cannot handle the large number of smokers out there. However, the government has taken steps to discourage smoking. For example, where I live, smoking is illegal in many public buildings. Smoking sections in restaurants have been made illegal as well. The only place for people to smoke is outside; even if the weather is bad. So although smoking is still legal, steps have been taken to make it inconveient and impractical for to start smoking and to encourage current smokers to quit.

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Cigarettes are legal because the tobacco companies make millions upon millions of dollars a year on a product that has been around for a long time. They should be illegal, but they aren't.Dracargen

Or conversely you can be adult and choose not to smoke while leaving those that do alone.

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#48 Dracargen
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Because the affects weren't known. Now a vast majority are addicted. Why does it bother you that some people smoke anyway?:|-Wicked_Sick-

Smokers are a minority.:|

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#49 LJS9502_basic
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I would like to see smoking (as well as alcohol) illegal. But there are so many smokers that the prison system simply cannot handle the large number of smokers out there. However, the government has taken steps to discourage smoking. For example, where I live, smoking is illegal in many public buildings. Smoking sections in restaurants have been made illegal as well. The only place for people to smoke is outside; even if the weather is bad. So although smoking is still legal, steps have been taken to make it inconveient and impractical for to start smoking and to encourage current smokers to quit.

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And the country should CERTAINLY be run according to your desires.:roll:

As long as smokers/drinkers don't hurt anyone else what concern is it of yours? Making either illegal will just stretch the limits of the law enforcement. Neither is going away. You have ONLY to look at drugs to see that making something illegal does NOT eradicate it.

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#50 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="-Wicked_Sick-"]Because the affects weren't known. Now a vast majority are addicted. Why does it bother you that some people smoke anyway?:|Dracargen

Smokers are a minority.:|

Read sentence over. He said a majority of SMOKERS are addicted.;)