Why are galaxies disc(flat) shaped and not spherical?

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#1 themajormayor
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Answer plz. And it's NOT because I touch myself at night.

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#2 ZumaJones07
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same reason saturn has rings and why orbits are all on the same plane? idk either :P
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#3 DigitalExile
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PROOF OF GOD

ALL HAIL THE KING OF THE UNIVERSE

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They rotate and the gravity of the supermassive black holes causes most of the matter to bulge out at the center. [spoiler] It's because you touch yourself at night. [/spoiler]

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#5 SirWander
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through processes you didn't bother paying attention to in astronomy cIass.

And because your dad touches himself at night.

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#6 Gaming-Planet
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The world is flat.

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#7 SirWander
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The world is flat.

Gaming-Planet

If the world is flat, why are there mountains? Those don't look flat to me.

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#8 Inconsistancy
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They rotate and the gravity of the supermassive black holes causes most of the matter to bulge out at the center.

BranKetra

No... the rotation pulls the matter into a disc (centrifugal force), the bulge is from 'collisions' with other galaxies sending stars and gas towards the center/black hole. Galaxies that haven't collided at some point are ~bulgeless.

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#9 Gaming-Planet
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[QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"]

The world is flat.

SirWander

If the world is flat, why are there mountains? Those don't look flat to me.

Everything underneath that is flat. It's a flat surface.
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#10 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

They rotate and the gravity of the supermassive black holes causes most of the matter to bulge out at the center.

Inconsistancy

No... the rotation pulls the matter into a disc (centrifugal force), the bulge is from 'collisions' with other galaxies sending stars and gas towards the center/black hole. Galaxies that haven't collided at some point are ~bulgeless.

I was just guessing.
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#11 SirWander
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Everything underneath that is flat. It's a flat surface. Gaming-Planet

Don't you mean flat bottom?

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#12 hoola
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Aren't there galaxies that aren't disc/sprial/flat? I havn't taken a class that had anything to do with this since 9th grade, but I seem to remember there being galaxies that are just a big clump of stars going off it every direction.

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#13 gamerguru100
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Answer plz. And it's NOT because I touch myself at night.

themajormayor

It's because you touch yourself at night.

[spoiler] I'm kidding. ggg [/spoiler]

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#14 Gaming-Planet
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[QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"]Everything underneath that is flat. It's a flat surface. SirWander

Don't you mean flat bottom?

I guess in more technical terms.
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#15 Gaming-Planet
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Aren't there galaxies that aren't disc/sprial/flat? I havn't taken a class that had anything to do with this since 9th grade, but I seem to remember there being galaxies that are just a big clump of stars going off it every direction.

hoola
Yes.
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#16 dramaybaz
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Actually..

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#17 Overlord93
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They spin. At least I believe that is the simple explanation.
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#18 bbwwoman
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well im christian and i know for a fact its all gods doing!
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#19 foxhound_fox
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Read about gravity on Wikipedia and how it affects things that rotate.
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#20 Phaze-Two
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there are spherical galaxies

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#21 scoots9
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Because you... I have no idea.

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#22 Phaze-Two
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btw why do planets become spherical over time? i thought it was because they spun around so much. it's the opposite for galaxies, which start off as spheres and then become flat spirals.

maybe planets are spherical because they are formed that way and just stay that way because they are strong enough to not be affected too much by centrifugal force. whereas galaxies are held togther by gravity alone, which is a weak force.

and yes i just had a conversation with myself there.

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#23 Gaming-Planet
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There's not enough gravity outside of those galaxies.

Just a lot of dark matter we have no idea about.

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#24 branketra
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btw why do planets become spherical over time? i thought it was because they spun around so much. it's the opposite for galaxies, which start off as spheres and then become flat spirals.

maybe planets are spherical because they are formed that way and just stay that way because they are strong enough to not be affected too much by centrifugal force. whereas galaxies are held togther by gravity alone, which is a weak force.

and yes i just had a conversation with myself there.

Phaze-Two
Well, Saturn is flat on both poles. Just throwing that out there.
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btw why do planets become spherical over time? i thought it was because they spun around so much. it's the opposite for galaxies, which start off as spheres and then become flat spirals.

maybe planets are spherical because they are formed that way and just stay that way because they are strong enough to not be affected too much by centrifugal force. whereas galaxies are held togther by gravity alone, which is a weak force.

and yes i just had a conversation with myself there.

Phaze-Two

Just like how galaxies are eliptical/spherical before spiraling, the nebulous cloud that collapses to form a star is also responsible for having materials that are mainly dust, which join up to form planetisimals (baby planet), and with futhur attraction, fragments join up and the object gets bigger, untill about a 1000km radius, at which point the planet is self gravitating enough to go in a spherical shape.

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#26 dramaybaz
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

btw why do planets become spherical over time? i thought it was because they spun around so much. it's the opposite for galaxies, which start off as spheres and then become flat spirals.

maybe planets are spherical because they are formed that way and just stay that way because they are strong enough to not be affected too much by centrifugal force. whereas galaxies are held togther by gravity alone, which is a weak force.

and yes i just had a conversation with myself there.

BranKetra
Well, Saturn is flat on both poles. Just throwing that out there.

No planet is perfectly spherical due to rotation.
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#27 Heisenderp
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

They rotate and the gravity of the supermassive black holes causes most of the matter to bulge out at the center.

Inconsistancy

No... the rotation pulls the matter into a disc (centrifugal force), the bulge is from 'collisions' with other galaxies sending stars and gas towards the center/black hole. Galaxies that haven't collided at some point are ~bulgeless.

Centrifugal force doesn't exist.
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#28 foxhound_fox
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btw why do planets become spherical over time? i thought it was because they spun around so much. it's the opposite for galaxies, which start off as spheres and then become flat spirals.Phaze-Two
You should pick up a book on astronomy/cosmology.
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#29 branketra
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[QUOTE="dramaybaz"] No planet is perfectly spherical due to rotation.

I know. However, Saturn is a more extreme example. [QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] You should pick up a book on astronomy/cosmology.

I know this wasn't said to me, but I will also take this advice.
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#30 foxhound_fox
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I know this wasn't said to me, but I will also take this advice.BranKetra
I can't give any recommendations, but a textbook or general interest book will do a far better job at introducing and teaching you about the universe. Most of what I learned (and remember) was taught to me in university. I plan on getting back into it as a hobby.
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#31 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]I know this wasn't said to me, but I will also take this advice.foxhound_fox
I can't give any recommendations, but a textbook or general interest book will do a far better job at introducing and teaching you about the universe. Most of what I learned (and remember) was taught to me in university. I plan on getting back into it as a hobby.

I actually have an astromony book from the course I took two fall terms ago. We didn't cover much material like this thread is talking about.
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#32 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]btw why do planets become spherical over time? i thought it was because they spun around so much. it's the opposite for galaxies, which start off as spheres and then become flat spirals.foxhound_fox
You should pick up a book on astronomy/cosmology.

i sure should

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#33 DarkGamer007
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same reason saturn has rings and why orbits are all on the same plane? idk either :PZumaJones07

Orbits are not all on the same plane, in reality they are all at different tilts, and planes.

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#34 Freak2121GTAF
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptical_galaxy Also, orbits are not on the same plane. Edit: Planets are spherical due to gravity. If an object does not have enough mass, only in rare cases would it become spherical. An example is Mars' moons.
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#35 dramaybaz
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same reason saturn has rings and why orbits are all on the same plane? idk either :PZumaJones07
All the Jovian planets have rings, Saturn's just more obvious.
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#36 jubino
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I'm no scientist, but if I had to bet I'd say Rosie O'Donnell was involved.

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#37 notsoawesome
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The same reason why most of the planets in our solar system orbit the sun in a "flat" path, I don't know.

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#38 bbwwoman
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this has nothing to do with science,its got to do with the work of god. god=fact science=fiction
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Because Ellie demanded it.
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#40 washnwax
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this has nothing to do with science,its got to do with the work of god. god=fact science=fictionbbwwoman

LOL..........

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#41 CptJSparrow
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I thought WMAP suggested that the universe itself is mostly flat.
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#42 Jackc8
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Any time a bunch of stuff in space starts getting drawn together by gravity, it's bound to start rotating and that will end up creating a disk shape.

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#43 Inconsistancy
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btw why do planets become spherical over time? i thought it was because they spun around so much. it's the opposite for galaxies, which start off as spheres and then become flat spirals.

maybe planets are spherical because they are formed that way and just stay that way because they are strong enough to not be affected too much by centrifugal force. whereas galaxies are held togther by gravity alone, which is a weak force.

and yes i just had a conversation with myself there.

Phaze-Two

If it were spinning fast enough, it'd flatten out, but at it's current speed the gravity of the Earth is able to keep it ~spherical... The Earth is an oblate spheroid, not a sphere, Earth would lack a regular axis, just tumbling, if it were a perfect sphere.

Massive objects, when clumped, always push in on themselves, so they 'prefer' a spherical shape, but gravity is fairly weak and can't pull an object into a ~sphere until it's of enough mass and density.

I thought WMAP suggested that the universe itself is mostly flat.CptJSparrow
The 'shape' of the universe is unknown, there is no observable curvature, but on Earth it takes almost 70k feet above sea level to see it's curvature and it's tiny, so if we're not seeing curvature from our perspective... it could mean the universe is infinite in size, a shape we're not expecting, a hologram, or at least just a really really big sphere.

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#44 Teenaged
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Actually..

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This is so awesome.

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#45 Klipsh
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I'm no scientist, but if I had to bet I'd say Rosie O'Donnell was involved.

jubino
Or aliens.
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#46 lordreaven
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Beasue the Galaxies are actually Spinfusor rounds in a giant game of Tribes.

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#47 Crunchy_Nuts
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When lots of space dust starts clumping up and getting packed together more tightly it starts to spin faster and faster. This starts to flatten the sphere into a disk and that's what planets and stuff are made from. Spherical galaxies are made when galaxies collide.
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#48 yellonet
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

They rotate and the gravity of the supermassive black holes causes most of the matter to bulge out at the center.

Inconsistancy

No... the rotation pulls the matter into a disc (centrifugal force), the bulge is from 'collisions' with other galaxies sending stars and gas towards the center/black hole. Galaxies that haven't collided at some point are ~bulgeless.

Actually, there is no such thing as centrifugal force.

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#49 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

They rotate and the gravity of the supermassive black holes causes most of the matter to bulge out at the center.

yellonet

No... the rotation pulls the matter into a disc (centrifugal force), the bulge is from 'collisions' with other galaxies sending stars and gas towards the center/black hole. Galaxies that haven't collided at some point are ~bulgeless.

Actually, there is no such thing as centrifugal force.

-.-

Centripetal*

Why not just correct me correctly? I typo'd a word that isn't caught by the spell check.

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#50 yellonet
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[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] No... the rotation pulls the matter into a disc (centrifugal force), the bulge is from 'collisions' with other galaxies sending stars and gas towards the center/black hole. Galaxies that haven't collided at some point are ~bulgeless.

Inconsistancy

Actually, there is no such thing as centrifugal force.

-.-

Centripetal*

Why not just correct me correctly? I typo'd a word that isn't caught by the spell check.

Typo huh? If you say so :cool: