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#1 12Bullets
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Why are People So Hard On Drug Dealers/cartels? Why not asses the demand and not the supply? drugs wouldnt be flooding in from canada and mexico if we didnt want them.
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#3 bluezy
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Probably because they're distributing illegal substances. Just a hunch.
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#5 carrot-cake
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Think about what drugs do. Think about why they're bad. Then you should understand, then again since you couldn't figure this out already, I dunno if you would.

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#6 D3nnyCrane
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You gotta cut off the head if you wanna kill the body. Kill demand, supply finds a new market. Kill supply, market evaporates.
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Why are People So Hard On Drug Dealers/cartels? Why not asses the demand and not the supply? drugs wouldnt be flooding in from canada and mexico if we didnt want them.12Bullets
So do you propose we charge people who WANT the drugs? That would be like trying to get rid of a river by splitting it at the mouth.Why not get rid of the source?
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#8 Adrianstalker
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Its because they use violence in order to get territory control. Therefore they buy guns and form gangs, criminal organizations and things like that.

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#9 UnrighteousFury
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Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

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#10 Adrianstalker
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Think about what drugs do. Think about why they're bad. Then you should understand, then again since you couldn't figure this out already, I dunno if you would.

carrot-cake

He knows that, I mean, he thinks that way too. His question is why they are more hated than the users itself

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#11 Truth_Dealer
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The problem with cartels is they kill people. But I don't hold anything against the non-violent entrepreneurs who keep our society alive. :)
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#12 -xPANICx-
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Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

UnrighteousFury

generalizing is bad. you cant base everything on what you see in movies.

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#13 Adrianstalker
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Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

UnrighteousFury

Then I bet you must hate everyone that work in a beer company, or Ford which is indirectly related to thousands of deaths. What about those who produces weapons? Even your dinner knife manufacturer is indirectly related to several deaths

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#14 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

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generalizing is bad. you cant base everything on what you see in movies.

Not a generalization.

People die in drug wars. People die of drug overdoses.

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#15 Truth_Dealer
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[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

Then I bet you must hate everyone that work in a beer company, or Ford which is indirectly related to thousands of deaths. What about those who produces weapons? Even your dinner knife manufacturer is indirectly related to several deaths

Even God should be held responsible since life directly leads to death! :o Not that there's a God... I'm just sayin'.
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#16 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

Think about what drugs do. Think about why they're bad. Then you should understand, then again since you couldn't figure this out already, I dunno if you would.

Adrianstalker

He knows that, I mean, he thinks that way too. His question is why they are more hated than the users itself


Well if you think about those things you think about the users, and where do the users get the drugs from?
The source needs to be killed.

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#17 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

Adrianstalker

Then I bet you must hate everyone that work in a beer company, or Ford which is indirectly related to thousands of deaths. What about those who produces weapons? Even your dinner knife manufacturer is indirectly related to several deaths

The difference between Ford and a drug dealer is that Ford takes precautions to try and ensure the safety of it's customers.

And I've got a beef with weapons manufacturers too. And the primary purpose of dinner knifes aren't to take lives, where as hard drug use and personal destruction almost go hand in hand.

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#18 XboxAmbassador
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Why? Why?! I'll tell you a little story. A long time ago, in a country so not far away. Is making a big deal out of it because of illegal disruption issues, this regards with authorities, and health inspectors. This is a major concernment because people are so damned ignorant and don't know how to take care of there body, this regards with drinking beer, whine (etc). Now, this has no commitment for me, I could care less about other people having throat cancer, because YOU did this to yourself, not us. Not authorities, and not politicians and amendments. Man seriously, people need to get educated on this stuff. It's good for the soul.

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#19 alexbaricco
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There is no war on drugs.

Wars end.

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#20 SpaceMoose
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I could probably think of a dozen reasons, but for one thing, people don't get hooked on drugs in the first place without a supplier.
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#21 effena
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Focusing on addicts is getting the horse before the cart.

The addicts are the unfortunate ones that feel the reprecutions of drugs. It destroys their bodies, minds, friendships, and families. All the while, the dealers are making tons of illegal cash and livin' it up. Dealers deserve no compassion while the addicts do.

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#22 Truth_Dealer
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hard drug use and personal destruction almost go hand in hand.UnrighteousFury
Irresponsibility and destruction go hand-in-hand. Not hard drugs and destruction. Lots of people do hard drugs recreationally from time to time without destroying their life, and nobody uses them with the intent of destroying themselves.
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#23 Adrianstalker
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[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

UnrighteousFury

Then I bet you must hate everyone that work in a beer company, or Ford which is indirectly related to thousands of deaths. What about those who produces weapons? Even your dinner knife manufacturer is indirectly related to several deaths

The difference between Ford and a drug dealer is that Ford takes precautions to try and ensure the safety of it's customers.

And I've got a beef with weapons manufacturers too. And the primary purpose of dinner knifes aren't to take lives, where as hard drug use and personal destruction almost go hand in hand.

I dont like guns too, just for the record....but I know what you mean, I just hold a grunge on the indirectly part because an overdose is not the primary function of any drug too. Choices kill people, just like heavy anti depressant has been the primary choice of suicides all over the world.

I'm pretty sure when a drug dealer sell someone a drug they don't want them to die, and the fact they don't take enough precautions is guilty for working under the shadow of the law, and that's where legalization comes in.

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#24 SpaceMoose
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Focusing on addicts is getting the horse before the cart.

The addicts are the unfortunate ones that feel the reprecutions of drugs. It destroys their bodies, minds, friendships, and families. All the while, the dealers are making tons of illegal cash and livin' it up. Dealers deserve no compassion while the addicts do.

effena

Actually, the irony is that most drug dealers low in the chain don't even make that much money, to the point where they'd actually be far better off simply working a minimum wage job. So why do they do it then? Beats the hell out of me. Maybe they imagine that they'll be one of the people at the top some day. *shrug*

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#25 axia_777
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Because they have been brain washed into believing that the War on Drugs is a good thing and that it will be won some day. Before the 30's NO ONE beleived this kind of cr*p. It is all just subjective nonsense that the Govenment has made the general public buy into. Thank Nancy Regan for that mostly. "Just Say No". What a load.

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#27 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]hard drug use and personal destruction almost go hand in hand.Truth_Dealer
Irresponsibility and destruction go hand-in-hand. Not hard drugs and destruction. Lots of people do hard drugs recreationally from time to time without destroying their life, and nobody uses them with the intent of destroying themselves.

I'm sure there are quite a few people that can manage to do hard drugs every so often, and step away just fine, but I'm almost certain that there are more who can't. And I don't think people smoke with the intention of killing themselves by it, but they're aware that it's a definite possibility. Same with hard drugs.

Also, it wouldn't be difficult to argue that doing hard drugs in the first place is irresponsible.

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#28 Truth_Dealer
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Is this even a real question?XD4NTESINF3RNOX
Is that?
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Also, it wouldn't be difficult to argue that doing hard drugs in the first place is irresponsible.UnrighteousFury
Actually, that's easy to dispute.
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]Also, it wouldn't be difficult to argue that doing hard drugs in the first place is irresponsible.Truth_Dealer
Actually, that's easy to dispute.

Then please, enlighten me.

And I don't mean that to be at all offensive, I'm genuinely curious.

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#31 -xPANICx-
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[QUOTE="-xPANICx-"]

[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Probably because they kill people. Directly and indirectly.

UnrighteousFury

generalizing is bad. you cant base everything on what you see in movies.

Not a generalization.

People die in drug wars. People die of drug overdoses.

so are you saying all drug dealers kill people? because you are definitely generalizing

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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]Also, it wouldn't be difficult to argue that doing hard drugs in the first place is irresponsible.UnrighteousFury

Actually, that's easy to dispute.

Then please, enlighten me.

And I don't mean that to be at all offensive, I'm genuinely curious.

I thought I already did. :? Nobody does drugs with the intent of destroying themselves, and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another. With the knowledge that many people can use hard drugs and not have it affect them negatively in the long term, it's proof that doing hard drugs is not necessarily irresponsible.
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#33 Adrianstalker
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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]hard drug use and personal destruction almost go hand in hand.UnrighteousFury

Irresponsibility and destruction go hand-in-hand. Not hard drugs and destruction. Lots of people do hard drugs recreationally from time to time without destroying their life, and nobody uses them with the intent of destroying themselves.

I'm sure there are quite a few people that can manage to do hard drugs every so often, and step away just fine, but I'm almost certain that there are more who can't.

Luckly you are just almost certain, because the immense, vast majority of drug user will never die directly to their use. Overdose happens rarely even on heroin

More people die taking legal medications, than off illegal drugs. In that sense, it would be the same for me to imagine that most people who take heavy medications will eventually die because of it, but that is not what happens. The vast majority lives on to tell their story

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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"] ...and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another...

I love when people rather blatantly make up or assume things to support their positions on real issues.
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#35 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="-xPANICx-"]generalizing is bad. you cant base everything on what you see in movies.

-xPANICx-

Not a generalization.

People die in drug wars. People die of drug overdoses.

so are you saying all drug dealers kill people? because you are definitely generalizing

How so?

He asked why people are so hard on drug dealers. I said it's because they kill people. They do. Where is the generalization?

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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]Is this even a real question?Truth_Dealer
Is that?

aww how cute i have a stalker and of course they should be hard on DRUG dealers they deal illegal substances how hard is that to figure out
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#37 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"] Actually, that's easy to dispute. Truth_Dealer

Then please, enlighten me.

And I don't mean that to be at all offensive, I'm genuinely curious.

I thought I already did. :? Nobody does drugs with the intent of destroying themselves, and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another. With the knowledge that many people can use hard drugs and not have it affect them negatively in the long term, it's proof that doing hard drugs is not necessarily irresponsible.

I suppose, but I'd say that taking a substance that is inherently dangerous is pretty irresponsible.

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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"] ...and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another...SpaceMoose
I love when people rather blatantly make up or assume things to support their positions on real issues.

I love it when people assume I'm just assuming, rather than digging first for evidence that would support the claims they make about me. :)
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#39 Truth_Dealer
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Then please, enlighten me.

And I don't mean that to be at all offensive, I'm genuinely curious.

I thought I already did. :? Nobody does drugs with the intent of destroying themselves, and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another. With the knowledge that many people can use hard drugs and not have it affect them negatively in the long term, it's proof that doing hard drugs is not necessarily irresponsible.

I suppose, but I'd say that taking a substance that is inherently dangerous is pretty irresponsible.

You've never heard of responsible use? People do it with alcohol every day. A potentially deadly substance,
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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]Is this even a real question?XD4NTESINF3RNOX
Is that?

aww how cute i have a stalker and of course they should be hard on DRUG dealers they deal illegal substances how hard is that to figure out

You'd like to believe you have a stalker, wouldn't you? :roll:
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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"] ...and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another...SpaceMoose
I love when people rather blatantly make up or assume things to support their positions on real issues.

I don't see what he is making up :?

Everyone I know, and myself, will do reserch before they experiment, or at least talk to somebody about it. It's stupid not to

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#42 axia_777
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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Then please, enlighten me.

And I don't mean that to be at all offensive, I'm genuinely curious.

UnrighteousFury

I thought I already did. :? Nobody does drugs with the intent of destroying themselves, and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another. With the knowledge that many people can use hard drugs and not have it affect them negatively in the long term, it's proof that doing hard drugs is not necessarily irresponsible.

I suppose, but I'd say that taking a substance that is inherently dangerous is pretty irresponsible.

Really? Then never drink alcohol.

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#43 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"] I thought I already did. :? Nobody does drugs with the intent of destroying themselves, and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another. With the knowledge that many people can use hard drugs and not have it affect them negatively in the long term, it's proof that doing hard drugs is not necessarily irresponsible.Truth_Dealer

I suppose, but I'd say that taking a substance that is inherently dangerous is pretty irresponsible.

You've never heard of responsible use? People do it with alcohol every day. A potentially deadly substance,

Alcohol is potentially dangerous, and even good for you in small amounts.

Hard drugs are inherently dangerous, at the very least, due to the fact that they're illegal.

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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"] ...and most people research what they're doing before they do it, to one degree or another...effena

I love when people rather blatantly make up or assume things to support their positions on real issues.

I don't see what he is making up :?

Everyone I know, and myself, will do reserch before they experiment, or at least talk to somebody about it. It's stupid not to

Exactly. It's common knowledge.
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#45 -xPANICx-
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[QUOTE="-xPANICx-"]

[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

Not a generalization.

People die in drug wars. People die of drug overdoses.

UnrighteousFury

so are you saying all drug dealers kill people? because you are definitely generalizing

How so?

He asked why people are so hard on drug dealers. I said it's because they kill people. They do. Where is the generalization?

are you serious? you said "they", they is another word for saying people that fit into the category of the people you are referring to. So when you say "they" you are saying that everyone who fits into the category of drug dealers kill people. which is generalizing and a very bold statement.

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#46 Truth_Dealer
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

I suppose, but I'd say that taking a substance that is inherently dangerous is pretty irresponsible.

You've never heard of responsible use? People do it with alcohol every day. A potentially deadly substance,

Alcohol is potentially dangerous, and even good for you in small amounts.

Hard drugs are inherently dangerous, at the very least, due to the fact that they're illegal.

Go do some research. Even the most demonized of drugs have beneficial effects in small, controlled doses.
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"] You've never heard of responsible use? People do it with alcohol every day. A potentially deadly substance,Truth_Dealer

Alcohol is potentially dangerous, and even good for you in small amounts.

Hard drugs are inherently dangerous, at the very least, due to the fact that they're illegal.

Go do some research. Even the most demonized of drugs have beneficial effects in small, controlled doses.

i would lmao if you overdose on drugs
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I love it when people assume I'm just assuming, rather than digging first for evidence that would support the claims they make about me. :)Truth_Dealer
...

Exactly. It's common knowledge. Truth_Dealer
So you have evidence from a scientific study or it's "common knowledge" (i.e. you assumed it)? Pick a thing.

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[QUOTE="Truth_Dealer"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

I suppose, but I'd say that taking a substance that is inherently dangerous is pretty irresponsible.

UnrighteousFury

You've never heard of responsible use? People do it with alcohol every day. A potentially deadly substance,

Alcohol is potentially dangerous, and even good for you in small amounts.

Hard drugs are inherently dangerous, at the very least, due to the fact that they're illegal.

That is why booze kills more people than all hard drugs combined....

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#50 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="-xPANICx-"]so are you saying all drug dealers kill people? because you are definitely generalizing

-xPANICx-

How so?

He asked why people are so hard on drug dealers. I said it's because they kill people. They do. Where is the generalization?

are you serious? you said "they", they is another word for saying people that fit into the category of the people you are referring to. So when you say "they" you are saying that everyone who fits into the category of drug dealers kill people. which is generalizing and a very bold statement.

Well, I suppose you've got me there.

Let me correct it then: A lot of drug dealers kill people. And the profession lends itself to violence.

I'd say most, but I know a few kids in my school who sell the stuff and have yet to kill anyone. I imagine that there are a lot of people out there like them.