Specifically, Judaism typically does not teach that there is eternal damnation. Jesus was, according to Christian teachings, Jewish, and yet Christianity for whatever reason decided that eternal damnation exists. How does that make any sense?
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Specifically, Judaism typically does not teach that there is eternal damnation. Jesus was, according to Christian teachings, Jewish, and yet Christianity for whatever reason decided that eternal damnation exists. How does that make any sense?
i'm guessing it's because they're different religions, and religion has never and is not suppose to make sense.
Because an early school in Christianity - that being the one in Rome - held that a proper reading of the New Testament scriptures supported such an assertion, and because a powerful Roman Emperor converted to this doctrine and forcefully suppressed the doctrines that were in opposition and which felt that no such doctrine could be found in the relevant scriptures. The earliest translation of the Bible - that being the Latin translation, contained language not found in the original languages that additionally supported this doctrine, and all were compelled by the Church to use it rather than the original languages.
Judaism neither has the New Testament scriptures, nor has had any leader firmly establish such a doctrine that all followers must abide by.
Specifically, Judaism typically does not teach that there is eternal damnation. Jesus was, according to Christian teachings, Jewish, and yet Christianity for whatever reason decided that eternal damnation exists. How does that make any sense?
SpaceMoose
It doesnt, thats why its religion.
What is this now, a serious answer? :PBecause an early school in Christianity - that being the one in Rome - held that a proper reading of the New Testament scriptures supported such an assertion, and because a powerful Roman Emperor converted to this doctrine and forcefully suppressed the doctrines that were in opposition and which felt that no such doctrine could be found in the relevant scriptures. The earliest translation of the Bible - that being the Latin translation, contained language not found in the original languages that additionally supported this doctrine, and all were compelled by the Church to use it rather than the original languages.
Judaism neither has the New Testament scriptures, nor has had any leader firmly establish such a doctrine that all followers must abide by.
GabuEx
From the way you worded that, it doesn't sound like you much believe the typical modern Christian interpretation. (Well, I guess I already knew that your take on Christianity was somewhat atypical for someone who follows it.)
Because the Old Testament, and in particular the Torah, do not really discuss an afterlife. Judaism is based much more around a rewards and punishment system in this life. It wasn't until apocalyptic prophets of the intertestamental period and ultimately John the baptist and Jesus that the idea of eternal damnation and reward came into play. Some scholars believe it came about as a result of the OT prophets inability to explain why evil happens to good people under the Mosaic law interpretation of the problem of evil.
Another religion thread.clayronPerhaps if there is some other topic that you think is more worthy of discussion you could make a thread and we can discuss it!
[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Does everything have to be thought of logically? When it comes to assertions of fact, preferably, yes.How does that make any sense?
Mr_Leonis
[QUOTE="Mr_Leonis"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Does everything have to be thought of logically? When it comes to assertions of fact, preferably, yes. True but when it comes to beliefs and some people's motivation to live life, sometimes no.How does that make any sense?
SpaceMoose
What is this now, a serious answer? :P
From the way you worded that, it doesn't sound like you much believe the typical modern Christian interpretation. (Well, I guess I already knew that your take on Christianity was somewhat atypical for someone who follows it.)
SpaceMoose
That would be an accurate statement, yes. I believe that the majority position in Christianity today is a belief that was forced on the masses by men in power who found it a useful doctrine to propagate, and which was maintained among the people by the systematic disallowing of Christians from access to resources that might have enabled them to see the truth (by which I mean the fact that all were required to use the Latin Bible and only the Latin Bible). It is no accident that adherence to that doctrine rose completely concurrent with the rise in the use of the Latin translation. This Latin-only doctrine was so strong that people have been put to death in the past for the offense of attempting to produce Bibles in other languages.
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