Why are the UN wasting their time...

with this 'Peace plan' in Syria? They know it's doomed to fail, somebody please explain the game the UN is trying to play? Is it to fool the Western public that we care? I for one am not fooled by such nonsense.

All the UN knows how to do is waste time. It's a globalist organization of corruption and usurpation of sovereignty -- A parasite.

They only pick on certain countries,they say no to Syria for killing and beating civilians yet they wouldnt dare say that to China

They only pick on certain countries,they say no to Syria for killing and beating civilians yet they wouldnt dare say that to China

sexyweapons

The bulk of international law is a fruitless and utter waste of time. State sovereignty over rules all international law pretty much.JasonDarksavior

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]The bulk of international law is a fruitless and utter waste of time. State sovereignty over rules all international law pretty much.pie-junior

[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]The bulk of international law is a fruitless and utter waste of time. State sovereignty over rules all international law pretty much.JasonDarksavior

It has an effect to some extent. The goal is to put pressure on China and Russia to tell Bashar to stop. However, Im not sure if that's going to work since Bashar isn't willing to give up power so easily. If that's the case though, then I hope he'll end up like Ghadaffi. There is a certain line you cross where you cannot go back to a diplomatic solution.

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"][QUOTE="pie-junior"] State sovereignity is the most important element in international law.pie-junior

Ok, what happens when a country gets sanctioned? The UN can do jack because of state sovereignty. All they can do is point their fingers and say "Bad Boy!"

[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"] Yep which also renders 90% of all treaties USELESS.JasonDarksavior

Ok, what happens when a country gets sanctioned? The UN can do jack because of state sovereignty. All they can do is point their fingers and say "Bad Boy!"

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]

[QUOTE="pie-junior"] They aren't useless- when a country agrees to do something, it does not infringe on its sovereignity when it's sanctioned for not doing it. It's all very similar to contract law, in principle. Countries get sanctioned by other countries all the time for violation of treaties, you just never hear about it becaused it isn't very dramatic or interesting. The UN is relatively useless in that regard, though.IustitiaMaximus

Ok, what happens when a country gets sanctioned? The UN can do jack because of state sovereignty. All they can do is point their fingers and say "Bad Boy!"

It has an effect to some extent. The goal is to put pressure on China and Russia to tell Bashar to stop. However, Im not sure if that's going to work since Bashar isn't willing to give up power so easily. If that's the case though, then I hope he'll end up like Ghadaffi. There is a certain line you cross where you cannot go back to a diplomatic solution.

BossPerson

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It has an effect to some extent. The goal is to put pressure on China and Russia to tell Bashar to stop. However, Im not sure if that's going to work since Bashar isn't willing to give up power so easily. If that's the case though, then I hope he'll end up like Ghadaffi. There is a certain line you cross where you cannot go back to a diplomatic solution.

markop2003

[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"] Yep which also renders 90% of all treaties USELESS.JasonDarksavior

Ok, what happens when a country gets sanctioned? The UN can do jack because of state sovereignty. All they can do is point their fingers and say "Bad Boy!"

The UN has nothing to do w/most sanctions.

Economic sanctions are pretty common between states; like with a breach of contract- the contract itself usually stipulates remedies available to the aggrieved party- and if not you have the "default" in the Vienna convention.

EG-http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/09/58&type=HTML

Eliminate the UN and instead donate 1% as much money to the International Red Cross. You'd get the same exact result, just with the elimination of truly stupendous amounts of meaningless prattle.

Eliminate the UN and instead donate 1% as much money to the International Red Cross. You'd get the same exact result, just with the elimination of truly stupendous amounts of meaningless prattle.

Jackc8

They only pick on certain countries,they say no to Syria for killing and beating civilians yet they wouldnt dare say that to China

sexyweapons

And yet one of the reasons why Russia and China defend Syria so heavily from UN Security Council actions and what not is not only because of their interests in Syria, but also because they know if they allow more concessions to the west, it could eventually be used against them, if they are ever found facing a similar existential threat.

They wouldn't be called the UN if they didn't would they?

Send the all the UN into Syria then nuke it. Two stones in one bird

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]

It has an effect to some extent. The goal is to put pressure on China and Russia to tell Bashar to stop. However, Im not sure if that's going to work since Bashar isn't willing to give up power so easily. If that's the case though, then I hope he'll end up like Ghadaffi. There is a certain line you cross where you cannot go back to a diplomatic solution.

BossPerson

Most of the military leadership and regular soldiers are Alawi, but most conscripts are still Sunni. I wouldn't be surprised if Assad is indeed just relying on a core of his forces for the crackdown and keeping the rest to the side for fear of mutiny and/or defections.

Send the all the UN into Syria then nuke it. Two stones in one bird

themajormayor

Wouldn't that destroy all the other countries surrounding Syria.

As long as russia and china dont' want it, there will be no peace in syria. Simple as that.