why cant guys wear dresses.

so, your dream guy would be a transvestite? If we take this thing one step further, you're basically -- in this thread -- wondering why it's not socially acceptable that guys take on the appearances of transvestites. Well for starters, they'd look like transvestites, and transvestites have a habit of raising an eye-brow or two, taking some of their more flamboyant public mannerisms into consideration. It's basically too difficult and frankly too much to ask, for people to differentiate between a guy in a dress walking down the street, and a full-fledged transvestite walking down the street. The absolute is inclined to judge the medium as well in the public eye, that's unfortunately (one could say i guess) the way things generally work, sociologically speaking.BiancaDK

It's hypocritical though. Because the same can be said about women wearing pants, which is typically more common than skirts and dresses in western society, as far as I can tell. I advocate freedom of attire, whatever your poison, you should be able to wear it. I'm sure the women of today would look like transvestites to those of the 1900's.

Cultural reasons.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]so, your dream guy would be a transvestite? If we take this thing one step further, you're basically -- in this thread -- wondering why it's not socially acceptable that guys take on the appearances of transvestites. Well for starters, they'd look like transvestites, and transvestites have a habit of raising an eye-brow or two, taking some of their more flamboyant public mannerisms into consideration. It's basically too difficult and frankly too much to ask, for people to differentiate between a guy in a dress walking down the street, and a full-fledged transvestite walking down the street. The absolute is inclined to judge the medium as well in the public eye, that's unfortunately (one could say i guess) the way things generally work, sociologically speaking.dhyce

It's hypocritical though. Because the same can be said about women wearing pants, which is typically more common than skirts and dresses in western society, as far as I can tell. I advocate freedom of attire, whatever your poison, you should be able to wear it. I'm sure the women of today would look like transvestites to those of the 1900's.

I wear this when i'm in Saudi (note that is not me in the photo.. it's also fitting as i call Saudi and America both home...)

some call it a dress, but it's not associated as feminine.

eh.. i won't share my own thoughts on the subject. not exactly politically correct... i'm pretty liberal, but on certain social standards i'm old school.

SaudiFury

It depends on the cutlture you're from. The Westerners (the majority here) say its icky to wear a dress, and rightly so. But these people from other countries don't have "dresses" as we understand them. That Arabic guy wearing his outfit. Thats a far cry from a dress. The Scots too. The kilts they wear are also a far cry from a dress. In the Middle East, it is EMBARASSING to be caught wearing women's clothing.

Who says you can't?

It's 2010, for crying out loud. If you're a dude and wearing a dress makes you happy, then by all means, go and be happy.

Have you never been to a renaissance faire?

the Scots men wear a knee length and the Irish wear a maxi that was the style of the times and was what a "real man" wore.

at home, to a party, and to battle or anywhere he went.

I have rented the Irish and the beefeater and others outfits.

I just love Renaissance Faire and if you go to the one at Novato you may encounter me.

been going there for years.

It is huge now....used to be just a very small thing with a half a dozen vendors.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

its called a kilt.

Yandere

Skirt =/= Dress

I thought you would understand ferret-gamer, you of all people.. I thought you would understand.

Cultural reasons.

Pixel-Perfect

People who say that the double standard between male and female crossdressers exists because women look good while doing it whereas guys look bad are forgetting that what is considered attractive or repulsive is defined entirely by society. If you grew up in a society where it was considered attractive for a grown man to wear a dress and prance around like a little girl, you'd think that was completely normal. It seems unrealistic, but we see these sorts of things all the time when comparing cultures (ie what one culture considers disgusting and ugly is highly valued in another culture, and vice versa). Indeed, I'm aware of at least one culture where families are actually expected to raise one of their boys as a female (and he then keeps that female role for the rest of his life).

And actually if you look at history men actually used to wear a lot of clothing that would be considered utterly feminine by today's standards. Examples are mary jane shoes (ie the dress shoes characteristic of what a little girl would wear), nightgowns, ruffled and lacy blouses, and tights.

Also, people shouldn't take their perceptions of crossdressers from the ones you see in popular media (ie drag queens). Crossdressers in media are almost always meant to be comical, and thus use crossdressers who exaggerate their masculine characteristics while merely wearing a wig and a dress. In reality most crossdressers make a concerted effort to pass. That means shaving off body hair, using a wig that actually complements their face type (at least the more knowledgable ones do this), strategical use of makeup (to take attention off masculine facial features and draw attention to feminine ones), and generally just trying to look as feminine as possible.

Because you can't cut down trees, kill stuff, or fight while wearing a dressScarface_tm431

You obviously suck at wearing dresses.

Who says you can't?

It's 2010, for crying out loud. If you're a dude and wearing a dress makes you happy, then by all means, go and be happy.

Hallenbeck77

A guy can wear a dress if he wants, he just shouldn't expect to be picking up any ladies when doing so.

Girls can wear mens clothing, but if a guy wears female clothings (or make up) he's either gay a pervert, or both

Pants, shorts, t-shirt.......... boring. Plus cute guys (aka not me) are ****ing sexy in a dress, yet its rarely seen.

Anyone have an answer to this conundrum.

Updated - Added pics of cute guys in dresses to prove it can be done.

marcl18123

hmmm... my gf has put me in her underwear and top before and it's a big turnon for me... it's kinda a double standard like *Men have something to prove* whereas women don't

[QUOTE="marcl18123"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"] no they're not. =| If you're a guy, and you wanna' pull off a dress while looking good, you're a guy that looks like an attractive girl. A typical man in a dress sporting almost any cut will at worst look super wrong, at best not really promote what we find masculine and thus generally attractive.BiancaDK

i think this thread started out of jealousy, since women get to cuter clothes then men, imo. Ex.

But knowning that i cant look good in it, i wonder why that even guys who can pull it off are still looked at weird, if they were to where it, while some women who (how do i do say it nicely), despite being blessed with a rather unfortunete appearance, wear provocative clothing not fitting to their body, yet are easily accepted just because they are female.

They do. It's called a kilt.... Besides, I don't think I want to see some big burly guy walking down the street in a short mini skirt trying to show off his hairy legs. I find that.....disturbing...tocool340

haha- and this. it's one thing when a girl does kinky things in a bedroom for you... but if you are just wearing a dress to please yourself then.. well :\

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="marcl18123"] my statement was really a matter of opinion, as the guys i find attractive are rather feminine.marcl18123

i think this thread started out of jealousy, since women get to cuter clothes then men, imo. Ex.

But knowning that i cant look good in it, i wonder why that even guys who can pull it off are still looked at weird, if they were to where it, while some women who (how do i do say it nicely), despite being blessed with a rather unfortunete appearance, wear provocative clothing not fitting to their body, yet are easily accepted just because they are female.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="marcl18123"] my statement was really a matter of opinion, as the guys i find attractive are rather feminine.marcl18123

i think this thread started out of jealousy, since women get to cuter clothes then men, imo. Ex.

But knowning that i cant look good in it, i wonder why that even guys who can pull it off are still looked at weird, if they were to where it, while some women who (how do i do say it nicely), despite being blessed with a rather unfortunete appearance, wear provocative clothing not fitting to their body, yet are easily accepted just because they are female.

To be fair, even real girls over the age of 9 would get stares wearing something like that. Even in Japan lolitas are viewed as weird by most people.

Really though, female attire over the past couple of decades has gotten really boring. It's much better in Asia where girls are still expected to be feminine, but in Western culture the only difference between the average girl's daily attire and the average guy's daily attire is that the girl's pants are tighter and her t-shirt is cut differently.

To be fair, even real girls over the age of 9 would get stares wearing something like that. Even in Japan lolitas are viewed as weird by most people.

Really though, female attire over the past couple of decades has gotten really boring. It's much better in Asia where girls are still expected to be feminine, but in Western culture the only difference between the average girl's daily attire and the average guy's daily attire is that the girl's pants are tighter and her t-shirt is cut differently.

gameguy6700

Not after the invention of skinny jeans, but i get what your saying.

what

No. Men don't wear dresses. And before anyone quotes me saying "kilts", no. That's part of Scottish culture, something I respect greatly. They are not dresses either, and to emphasise manliness, they wear nothing underneath.

Also, Celts ( mostly Irish and Scottish celts) ran to war naked, because they had the balls to say "This is how un-afraid of you we are and we're wearing nothing, ****s " ... they also hung many a head on walls, and traded heads retrieved from war between each other.

I love Celtic culture. Life would be so much easier if it were like that now.

[QUOTE="marcl18123"]

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"] so, your dream guy would be a transvestite? If we take this thing one step further, you're basically -- in this thread -- wondering why it's not socially acceptable that guys take on the appearances of transvestites. Well for starters, they'd look like transvestites, and transvestites have a habit of raising an eye-brow or two, taking some of their more flamboyant public mannerisms into consideration. It's basically too difficult and frankly too much to ask, for people to differentiate between a guy in a dress walking down the street, and a full-fledged transvestite walking down the street. The absolute is inclined to judge the medium as well in the public eye, that's unfortunately (one could say i guess) the way things generally work, sociologically speaking.gameguy6700

i think this thread started out of jealousy, since women get to cuter clothes then men, imo. Ex.

But knowning that i cant look good in it, i wonder why that even guys who can pull it off are still looked at weird, if they were to where it, while some women who (how do i do say it nicely), despite being blessed with a rather unfortunete appearance, wear provocative clothing not fitting to their body, yet are easily accepted just because they are female.

To be fair, even real girls over the age of 9 would get stares wearing something like that. Even in Japan lolitas are viewed as weird by most people.

Really though, female attire over the past couple of decades has gotten really boring. It's much better in Asia where girls are still expected to be feminine, but in Western culture the only difference between the average girl's daily attire and the average guy's daily attire is that the girl's pants are tighter and her t-shirt is cut differently.

ahh- true. but if guys look this >>

.... I don't know if he would attract anyone buy gay guys... that's the thing... girls don't seem to respond to anything except extreme masculinity... whereas many guys on the other hand will respond to girls based on a number of things...

I VERY much doubt Celtic people ran to war stark naked. They would be cut to shreds. Sure they were a firece people, not denying that. If I saw some naked weirdo running at me weapon in hand, I'd go for theyou-know-what. See how he likes having a vital part cut off.

what

No. Men don't wear dresses. And before anyone quotes me saying "kilts", no. That's part of Scottish culture, something I respect greatly. They are not dresses either, and to emphasise manliness, they wear nothing underneath.

Also, Celts ( mostly Irish and Scottish celts) ran to war naked, because they had the balls to say "This is how un-afraid of you we are and we're wearing nothing, ****s " ... they also hung many a head on walls, and traded heads retrieved from war between each other.

I love Celtic culture. Life would be so much easier if it were like that now.

Bitter_Altmer

I VERY much doubt Celtic people ran to war stark naked. They would be cut to shreds. Sure they were a firece people, not denying that. If I saw some naked weirdo running at me weapon in hand, I'd go for theyou-know-what. See how he likes having a vital part cut off.

Calvin079

um, centuries ago, the scottish would ride out naked... wearing only war paint... and they kicked some serious A$$

[QUOTE="ChemicalGammie"]Theres no rule that states that men cannot wear dresses. You can if you want, but I wouldn't recommend going out in public wearing one. :Pmarcl18123

@Scoob64:Some website proof would of use. O know many people call out for proof over everything, but I do it when necessary. As in this case. Proof please?

it's just the way society is.

I think females are fortunate that they have so much more freedom in choice with what they can do with their hair and what clothes they wear.

honestly if they designed masculine looking dresses I would wear one, but it would really have to be a societal norm again. Cause I never see a guy wearing a dress so I'm not going to start it and be the only guy doing it

@Scoob64:Some website proof would of use. O know many people call out for proof over everything, but I do it when necessary. As in this case. Proof please?

Calvin079

Here

Quote from wikipedia

"Polybius also asserts that Celts typically fought naked, "The appearance of these naked warriors was a terrifying spectacle, for they were all men of splendid physique and in the prime of life." According to Livy this was also true of the Celts of Asia Minor"

[QUOTE="Scarface_tm431"]Because you can't cut down trees, kill stuff, or fight while wearing a dressvoluptuoushrewd

You obviously suck at wearing dresses.

Huh. Intresting. Aperson learns something new everyday.and creepy. But a word of caution. Don't use it as "The source" because not everything from Wikipedia can be trusted, Scooba.

what

No. Men don't wear dresses. And before anyone quotes me saying "kilts", no. That's part of Scottish culture, something I respect greatly. They are not dresses either, and to emphasise manliness, they wear nothing underneath.

Also, Celts ( mostly Irish and Scottish celts) ran to war naked, because they had the balls to say "This is how un-afraid of you we are and we're wearing nothing, ****s " ... they also hung many a head on walls, and traded heads retrieved from war between each other.

I love Celtic culture. Life would be so much easier if it were like that now.

The terrifying and Bloodthirsty partI shall debate with you about. BTW, men with shields are NOT sissies. Even the Celts had shields. But if the Celts had tried to face the Mongols when they were the powerhouse, (largest land empire ever)they would have been overrun in about 16 seconds flat.

Huh. Intresting. Aperson learns something new everyday.and creepy. But a word of caution. Don't use it as "The source" because not everything from Wikipedia can be trusted, Scooba.

Calvin079

This thread is really creepy.....

[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

Huh. Intresting. Aperson learns something new everyday.and creepy. But a word of caution. Don't use it as "The source" because not everything from Wikipedia can be trusted, Scooba.

dragon7x2k

I didn't say it was bad information wise, but somepeople like to treat everything from that site as if it were "The Truth and end of the current Argument." Just warning people not to treat it as such.

This thread is really creepy.....

Espada12

The terrifying and Bloodthirsty partI shall debate with you about. BTW, men with shields are NOT sissies. Even the Celts had shields. But if the Celts had tried to face the Mongols when they were the powerhouse, (largest land empire ever)they would have been overrun in about 16 seconds flat.

Calvin079

... that's the thing... girls don't seem to respond to anything except extreme masculinity... whereas many guys on the other hand will respond to girls based on a number of things...

Scoob64

ahh, that's not entirely true. I find scene/emo guys to be very physically attractive, and so does many of my friends, and they typically don't look very masculine, in fact they have quite a few traits about themselves that would otherwise commonly be associated with girls, like guyliner and excessive use of hairspray and flattening iron. :P

Also in response to that guy I last quoted, the British empire was the largest empire by land, hard to swallow, me being Irish but I'm a concrete person, I don't settle for bull**** :)

[QUOTE="Scoob64"]

... that's the thing... girls don't seem to respond to anything except extreme masculinity... whereas many guys on the other hand will respond to girls based on a number of things...

BiancaDK

ahh, that's not entirely true. I find scene/emo guys to be very physically attractive, and so does many of my friends, and they typically don't look very masculine, in fact they have quite a few traits about themselves that would otherwise commonly be associated with girls, like guyliner and excessive use of hairspray and flattening iron. :P

Umm guys in dresses is just plan awkward but many straight guys wear girl pants.....Avistann

[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

The terrifying and Bloodthirsty partI shall debate with you about. BTW, men with shields are NOT sissies. Even the Celts had shields. But if the Celts had tried to face the Mongols when they were the powerhouse, (largest land empire ever)they would have been overrun in about 16 seconds flat.

Bitter_Altmer

That's why David Bowie was so popular.dragon7x2k

If i wanted to show off my legs, i would just wear shorts. Dante2710

But you wont get that much of a breeze that way! :o

Ahhhh haaa, how i love how this thread went from being about men wearing dresses to bloodthirsty naked men ripping the heads off of Mongolians. FrostyPhantasm

[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"][QUOTE="Calvin079"]

The terrifying and Bloodthirsty partI shall debate with you about. BTW, men with shields are NOT sissies. Even the Celts had shields. But if the Celts had tried to face the Mongols when they were the powerhouse, (largest land empire ever)they would have been overrun in about 16 seconds flat.

Calvin079

You read on the fact that Genghis gave two chances before totally annihilating an empire? I guarantee you, if the Celts were in that position ( Though never as strong as the Mongols were), they'd do it without giving any chances.

Genghis was a bloodthirsty bastard, but his masterstroke was Subutai, one of the greatest generals in military existance. Its unfortunate the Celts never had a leader and general like them two.