Why can't parents accept responsibility for their kid's actions?

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#1 Film-Guy
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i see all these article about parents being offended by a movie/video game/TV show etc and it makes me sad for our society. Parents who expect the government to censor all the TV, movies and games that their kids can access are pathetic. If you dont want your kid seeing them, then maybe you could stop being such crappy parents and actually do something about it yourself. if your kid see's something he doesnt understand like violence or nudity then sit down with them and explain it in a way they can understand. All this talk of censorship is making parents lazy and stupid, if the government censors everything parents find offensive or bad for kids then it will be the worst thing to do to kids. By the time they do see sex and violence they wont understand it as much because they will have the idea of sex and violence being offensive and wrong stuck in their heads. If parents actually started being parents, maybe we wouldnt have those kind of problems.
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#2 inyourface_12
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i agree completely
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#3 sovereign_22
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yep i consider myself lucky i have parents that are as open minded as mine are, but even they have their moments
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#4 pintabear49blue
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I agree. Although they cannot monitor them 24/7 , they can certainly do a better job at it.
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#5 foxhound_fox
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Because they are too busy living their lives to have to worry about the beings they create and are obligated to care for.
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#6 Film-Guy
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I agree. Although they cannot monitor them 24/7 , they can certainly do a better job at it.pintabear49blue

I dont think anyone expects perfection from parents, but they should at least try rather than make the government censor all the good stuff we want to watch.

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#7 xSIZEMATTER
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We have lost our values.
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#8 RKfromDownunder
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I do agree to a degree but I also disagree.

Parents should monitor their children but thats not always possible. The government shouldn't allow overly obscene material on air during prime TV hours but it depends on what you find obscene or not. The sheltering from even weak cartoon violence by parents is fairly pathetic.

And parents should not always have to accept responsibility for their child's actions. Up to what age specifically do you mean? When they become a legal adult? A 16 year old is mentally, physically, and legally a child. But even if a 16 year old is still just a child, they should still be legally accountable for what they do. Punishing parents for crimes that children commits is what states like China do; extremely heavy fines are often levied on parents of children who commit even minor crimes.

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#9 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]I agree. Although they cannot monitor them 24/7 , they can certainly do a better job at it.Film-Guy

I dont think anyone expects perfection from parents, but they should at least try rather than make the government censor all the good stuff we want to watch.

What I do not get is why some parents get all mad when a game has nudity , but are somehow not mad at the violence.

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#10 mrbojangles25
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problably because the worst feeling, outside of having your child actually die, is knowing you are responsible for failing them. Who would want to own up to that? Only the most honest and rightous I would say.

Its cool to talk smack about parents now, but wait til you have kids I am sure you would switch stances.

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#11 duxup
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God forbid the kids be responsible for their own actions...
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#12 Video_Game_King
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Because we've created an "its not your fault" environment. If you fail a test, its not that you're stupid, its just some mental disorder (whether or not it actually exists or is relevant).
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God forbid the kids be responsible for their own actions...duxup

Yeah. I have seen parents blame others for what their kid did , but not just accept that thier kid did something wrong with full knowledge and should be punished.

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#14 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="duxup"]God forbid the kids be responsible for their own actions...pintabear49blue

Yeah. I have seen parents blame others for what their kid did , but not just accept that thier kid did something wrong with full knowledge and should be punished.

I think kids should be blamed too, but not fully when they are below like...10 or something. Honestly I dont know what would be a good age for when a kid kids more or less blame.

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#15 DeeJayInphinity
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God forbid the kids be responsible for their own actions...duxup
It can go both ways, imo. Sometimes parents just can't stop their kids from getting into gangs, and drugs. But sometimes parents screw up and they create a being that is just not what we're looking for.
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I wrote a 10 page paper about this for my Senior Expository Reading a Writing ****

The game developers/Video games are not to blame, the blame lies within the parents, who couldn't even teach their kid the difference between reality and fantasy and a sense of responsibility.

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#17 kyosukeugc
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Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

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#18 Film-Guy
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I wrote a 10 page paper about this for my Senior Expository Reading a Writing ****

The game developers/Video games are not to blame, the blame lies within the parents, who couldn't even teach their kid the difference between reality and fantasy and a sense of responsibility.

AAllxxjjnn

Thats the major problem I think, kids not being able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Parents these days dont know how to explain sensitive subjects to kids. They would much rather somebody else do it for them.

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#19 gobo212
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Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

kyosukeugc

Yes Women being forced to stay home cooking/cleaning would solve all of our problems.

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#20 Film-Guy
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Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

kyosukeugc

Why do the values have to be religous, I don't have any "religous" values and I am doing fine. I have moral values that are in no way influenced by religion.

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#21 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]

Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

gobo212

Yes Women being forced to stay home cooking/cleaning would solve all of our problems.

Think about it, if they were in the kitchen more often they wouldnt be able to leave the house to complain about stuff:P

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#22 gobo212
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[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]

Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

Film-Guy

Yes Women being forced to stay home cooking/cleaning would solve all of our problems.

Think about it, if they were in the kitchen more often they wouldnt be able to leave the house to complain about stuff:P

Very true... WHERES MAH PIE WOMAN!!!??

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#23 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

I wrote a 10 page paper about this for my Senior Expository Reading a Writing ****

The game developers/Video games are not to blame, the blame lies within the parents, who couldn't even teach their kid the difference between reality and fantasy and a sense of responsibility.

Film-Guy

Thats the major problem I think, kids not being able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Parents these days dont know how to explain sensitive subjects to kids. They would much rather somebody else do it for them.

I also like to point out - who gives these kids access to weapons. Like in the case of Josh and William Buckner. They shot at cars with a 22 caliber rifle, killing two people. They said GTA inspired them. The Families of the victims sued Take Two and Rockstar. How did they have access to GTA too? they were 14 and 16. It was clearly parental neglect.

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#24 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]

Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

gobo212

Yes Women being forced to stay home cooking/cleaning would solve all of our problems.

Think about it, if they were in the kitchen more often they wouldnt be able to leave the house to complain about stuff:P

Very true... WHERES MAH PIE WOMAN!!!??

Why do you always have to shout:cry:

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[QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]

Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

Film-Guy

Why do the values have to be religous, I don't have any "religous" values and I am doing fine. I have moral values that are in no way influenced by religion.

I'm not religious either and I'm fine, BUT I was also raised by a Christian family and I was on the back edge of the loss of values being taught by teachers in schools as well.

The problem is, is that mother's aren't home much anymore and neither is dad as usual. Parents rely on babysitters/daycare to take care of their kids in many situations today. When they are at home, both parents are too tired/too busy to worry about dealing with their kids, so they get thrown in front of the TV or the computer.

If you follow the de-evolution of society, you can trace it to the femi-nazi movement. It's quite sad really when you think about it.

I have no problem with women wanting to do their own thing, but the kids should always take priority. That just isn't the case today.

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#26 gobo212
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[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]

Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

Film-Guy

Yes Women being forced to stay home cooking/cleaning would solve all of our problems.

Think about it, if they were in the kitchen more often they wouldnt be able to leave the house to complain about stuff:P

Very true... WHERES MAH PIE WOMAN!!!??

Why do you always have to shout:cry:

CAUSE IMA MAN!!!!

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You have to realise that there are parents who actually know how to take responsibility and those who can't. I agree with you but how can you change the way what's on tv if the ads are just to violent these days. If you were to compare todays shows and commercials from back then then you would really notice the difference in all areas. Parents though should really know what works best for their children.
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#28 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]

Loss of Religious Values

and Feminism

Those are why we have the issue we have today with kids/families.

gobo212

Yes Women being forced to stay home cooking/cleaning would solve all of our problems.

Think about it, if they were in the kitchen more often they wouldnt be able to leave the house to complain about stuff:P

Very true... WHERES MAH PIE WOMAN!!!??

Why do you always have to shout:cry:

CAUSE IMA MAN!!!!

I'm taking the kids baby, I can't deal with this no more:evil:

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#29 buldog300
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You are correct sir.
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#30 fourier404
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Because they are too busy living their lives to have to worry about the beings they create and are obligated to care for.foxhound_fox

My parents, especially my dad, work long hours at work during the week and even on weekends. They're making money to pay for 2 (private) college educations, a cost totalling almost a half-million. If my parents spend so much time with it, it would be very difficult for a lower-class american to provide their children with enough without leaving them alone longer.

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#31 MrGeezer
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I'm all for parental responsibility, but sometimes I think that we need to put more blame on the KIDS for things that kids do.

I mean, all this "wah...Hitler wasn;t such a bad man, he only had bad parents" stuff starts to get ridiculous after a while. LOTS of people have bad parents, but most of us don't ****ing go shooting up schools or kidnapping our neighbors' dogs and burying them alive.

I think at some point, we just have to recognize that some kids are just ****ing evil.

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#32 Ogre_Mage
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This society (north american that is) portrays sex as a bad thing, even though it isn't. My take on it would be to just lessen the amount of censorship completely. Therefore, no one has to worry about it and we won't be as sheltered to the things going on around us. Just because you ignore something that doesn't mean it's going to go away. The less you expose children to sex or violence going on throughout the world the more curious they become. This forces them to use other means in order to attain information about what they seek. The internet itself is a perfectly good example of this. :|
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#33 ElArab
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Because the media likes to start scandals to get people to watch...that's all..

Marylin Manson - OH NOES, HE SEZ BAD STUFF, PUT IT ON T.V. AND MAKE IT A BIG DEAL! PPL WILL WATCH IT!

JESUS CRIPES LOOK AT GTA, YOU KILL PEOPLE IN IT, PUT IT ON DA NEWZ!!!

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#34 gobo212
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Because the media likes to start scandals to get people to watch...that's all..

Marylin Manson - OH NOES, HE SEZ BAD STUFF, PUT IT ON T.V. AND MAKE IT A BIG DEAL! PPL WILL WATCH IT!

JESUS CRIPES LOOK AT GTA, YOU KILL PEOPLE IN IT, PUT IT ON DA NEWZ!!!

ElArab

This is partly true but I also think it has to do with finding an easy scapegoat for fundamental problems in our culture.

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I'll agree that adults should accept some of the responsibility, but definetly not all of it.

For instance a five year steals candy, he didn't know it was a bad thing, so the parent accepts the responsibilty for the first time, showing how it was wrong.

Though if it were a 15 year old stealing and being dragged home with the police, its not the parents fault. Unless they havent taught their child how to be civil.

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#36 quadraleap
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Are these the same parents that put their kids in front of the tv for hours instead of interacting with them? Hmm, I wonder why.

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#37 ElArab
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Are these the same parents that put their kids in front of the tv for hours instead of interacting with them? Hmm, I wonder why.

quadraleap

Well what's your point?

Teletubbies and Sesame Street > Parenting your child yourself

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#38 freshgman
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You have no idea what parenting is like. When you have kids you will sympathise with them more