Like the Jihad, for example. The word has multiple meanings but can also be translated into holy war/holy struggle against non-believers.
Thoughts?
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Yes, because all Muslims are in a holy war against Christians.kdawg88I am not talking about what Muslims do now. If they don't kill people because of their beliefs, that hightens my view of them. What has been written in their holy book is not changed by what they believe, however.
That is why I mentioned the Muslim religion and not Muslims specifically.
There is bad stuff about all religions. They all suck.Like the Jihad, for example. The word has multiple meanings but can also be translated into holy war/holy struggle against non-believers.
Thoughts?
SkyWard20
[QUOTE="kdawg88"]Yes, because all Muslims are in a holy war against Christians.SkyWard20I am not talking about what Muslims do now. If they don't kill people because of their beliefs, that hightens my view of them. What has been written in their holy book is not changed by what they believe, however. As a person who has memorized the entire Qu'ran. I assure, there are no verses that say kill people because of their faith. ALL of the verses that you find on crappy Islamic hatred websites took verses out of context or poorly translated them.
There's bad stuff about most faiths. Anytime people put blind faith into something instead of reason, bad things can happen. I have no problem with religions. I just worry about the narrow minded zealots that seem to pop up with every major religion.
I also agree. They degrade women and such. Stanley09Its funny because the woman here will probably be the ones to disagree with you.
Jihad is simply a Muslim's holy duty to convert others to their religion. Some radicals/fundamentalists use it as an excuse to attack other countries. You must realize that their are crazy people in every religion who will take one phrase out of the Qu'ran/Bible/Torah and use it as an excuse to hurt others. The Qu'ran also says that you must not fight unless others fight you first, and that peace is important. Besides, many Christian groups have similar ideas, (eg. Mormon, Jehovah's Witness). All these groups must also try to convert others to their religion as well.yoba333Then how did the Muslim religion grow at first? Not by taking over other countries and conveniently converting them to the Muslim faith?
[QUOTE="yoba333"][QUOTE="deleterguy"]Islam should be banished from Western countries.deleterguyWhat happened to freedom of religion? What happened to stay in your own frickin country and leave us alone with your BS. I find that incredibly intolerant, which is unfortunately why a lot of Muslim terrorists attack us. Also, you do realize that Christianity's "God" and Islam's "Allah" are the same god under different names, right? Islam and Christianity are extremely similar, if you would actually take the time to learn about both of them
[QUOTE="yoba333"]Jihad is simply a Muslim's holy duty to convert others to their religion. Some radicals/fundamentalists use it as an excuse to attack other countries. You must realize that their are crazy people in every religion who will take one phrase out of the Qu'ran/Bible/Torah and use it as an excuse to hurt others. The Qu'ran also says that you must not fight unless others fight you first, and that peace is important. Besides, many Christian groups have similar ideas, (eg. Mormon, Jehovah's Witness). All these groups must also try to convert others to their religion as well.SkyWard20Then how did the Muslim religion grow at first? Not by taking over other countries and conveniently converting them to the Muslim faith? More people have died because of christianity than any other religion
What happened to stay in your own frickin country and leave us alone with your BS.deleterguyNothing happened, that never existed.
More people have died because of christianity than any other religionStanley09What do you consider dying for Christianity to be?
[QUOTE="yoba333"]Jihad is simply a Muslim's holy duty to convert others to their religion. Some radicals/fundamentalists use it as an excuse to attack other countries. You must realize that their are crazy people in every religion who will take one phrase out of the Qu'ran/Bible/Torah and use it as an excuse to hurt others. The Qu'ran also says that you must not fight unless others fight you first, and that peace is important. Besides, many Christian groups have similar ideas, (eg. Mormon, Jehovah's Witness). All these groups must also try to convert others to their religion as well.SkyWard20Then how did the Muslim religion grow at first? Not by taking over other countries and conveniently converting them to the Muslim faith? So? does that necessarily mean Islam endorsed that action? Besides, under Islamic law they can't force them to convert to Islam. Instead they had to pay a Jizya tax and were exempt from the zakat tax.
[QUOTE="yoba333"]Jihad is simply a Muslim's holy duty to convert others to their religion. Some radicals/fundamentalists use it as an excuse to attack other countries. You must realize that their are crazy people in every religion who will take one phrase out of the Qu'ran/Bible/Torah and use it as an excuse to hurt others. The Qu'ran also says that you must not fight unless others fight you first, and that peace is important. Besides, many Christian groups have similar ideas, (eg. Mormon, Jehovah's Witness). All these groups must also try to convert others to their religion as well.SkyWard20Then how did the Muslim religion grow at first? Not by taking over other countries and conveniently converting them to the Muslim faith?
It did at first, but in fact many countries accepted Islam. Forced conversions were rare, and Muslims of the time were extremely tolerant of Christianity and Judaism. I'm not denying that they did take over countries at first, but after the Battle of Tours in 732 they more or less stopped. Now, you don't find them running around conquering countries right?
[QUOTE="deleterguy"][QUOTE="yoba333"] What happened to freedom of religion?yoba333What happened to stay in your own frickin country and leave us alone with your BS. I find that incredibly intolerant, which is unfortunately why a lot of Muslim terrorists attack us. Also, you do realize that Christianity's "God" and Islam's "Allah" are the same god under different names, right? Islam and Christianity are extremely similar, if you would actually take the time to learn about both of them
Islamic terrorism is the result of civil intolerance? So if we are more tolerant, then the terrorists won't attack us?
[QUOTE="yoba333"][QUOTE="deleterguy"]Islam should be banished from Western countries.deleterguyWhat happened to freedom of religion? What happened to stay in your own frickin country and leave us alone with your BS. They are in their countries? you realize Muslims in Europe also Include European converts?
In Quaran it also says "Do not fight with them, unless they fight with with you", Dont show us al qaeda or taliban as a example, they kill innocent people and use God's name for violence... If you look at Turki States you wont see something like that...
Good thing I'm not Christian either, but atleast Christianity belongs in Europe...unlike Islam.deleterguy
No, no no. Christianity crawled from the desert as well.
I find that incredibly intolerant, which is unfortunately why a lot of Muslim terrorists attack us. Also, you do realize that Christianity's "God" and Islam's "Allah" are the same god under different names, right? Islam and Christianity are extremely similar, if you would actually take the time to learn about both of them[QUOTE="yoba333"][QUOTE="deleterguy"] What happened to stay in your own frickin country and leave us alone with your BS.Frattracide
Islamic terrorism is the result of civil intolerance? So if we are more tolerant, then the terrorists won't attack us?
It might help! But just look at the "Ground Zero Mosque" debate! That act of intolerance by the American people probably made some Muslim terrorists mad.[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="yoba333"] I find that incredibly intolerant, which is unfortunately why a lot of Muslim terrorists attack us. Also, you do realize that Christianity's "God" and Islam's "Allah" are the same god under different names, right? Islam and Christianity are extremely similar, if you would actually take the time to learn about both of themyoba333
Islamic terrorism is the result of civil intolerance? So if we are more tolerant, then the terrorists won't attack us?
It might help! But just look at the "Ground Zero Mosque" debate! That act of intolerance by the American people probably made some Muslim terrorists mad. So? You can't react violently just because you don't like someone's attitude. Note...this is a general statement...not specific.[QUOTE="yoba333"] What happened to stay in your own frickin country and leave us alone with your BS.SkyWard20I find that incredibly intolerant, which is unfortunately why a lot of Muslim terrorists attack us. Also, you do realize that Christianity's "God" and Islam's "Allah" are the same god under different names, right? Islam and Christianity are extremely similar, if you would actually take the time to learn about both of them
Islamic terrorism is the result of civil intolerance? So if we are more tolerant, then the terrorists won't attack us?
Its ignorance and misinformation rather then intolerance that caused them to become extremists.[QUOTE="yoba333"][QUOTE="Frattracide"]It might help! But just look at the "Ground Zero Mosque" debate! That act of intolerance by the American people probably made some Muslim terrorists mad. So? You can't react violently just because you don't like someone's attitude. Note...this is a general statement...not specific.Islamic terrorism is the result of civil intolerance? So if we are more tolerant, then the terrorists won't attack us?
LJS9502_basic
Well unfortunately there are many people who will still react violently to intolerance or hatred.
[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="yoba333"] I find that incredibly intolerant, which is unfortunately why a lot of Muslim terrorists attack us. Also, you do realize that Christianity's "God" and Islam's "Allah" are the same god under different names, right? Islam and Christianity are extremely similar, if you would actually take the time to learn about both of themkrazy-blazer
Islamic terrorism is the result of civil intolerance? So if we are more tolerant, then the terrorists won't attack us?
Its ignorance and misinformation rather then intolerance that caused them to become extremists. Well first of all I didn't write "What happened to stay in your own frickin country and leave us alone with your BS". I feel I have been misquotedPlease Log In to post.
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