Why did America put a slave owner on the one-dollar bill?

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#1 3-Legged_Man
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Aren't black people pissed off about this? Every time they use a $1 bill, they look right into the beady little eyes of a worthless bastard who disgraced their ancestors. WTF?

To quote the Corporate Avenger, "If Hitler was on the $20 bill, how would the Jews feel?"

And why does America celebrate Christopher Columbus' birthday? How is he special? He's just some jerk who came to someone else's land, pushed them around, killed them, stole their property, and raped their souls.

Why would America praise people like this? So we've come to the point we are at now, and we can't change the past, but why can't we just no longer acknowledge people who we wouldn't accept in our society today? Have you ever thought about that? If George Washington or Christopher Columbus were alive today, held the same beliefs today that they did back then, we would all treat them as terrorists and want them removed immediately, much like Saddam or Bin Laden.

What gives, America? Huh? Why so lazy?

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#2 Cherokee_Jack
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Raped their souls?
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George Washington helped us win our independence. Owning slaves doesn't mean he was as evil as Hitler
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You're an angry little poster aren't you! :?
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On your first point- To compare Washington to Hitler is kind of extreme. Washington risked his life for the birth of this country; I think he's deserved the privilege to be on this nation's currency.

On your second point- Columbus day isn't as much a day that celebrates Christopher Columbus as much as it is an Italian "pride" day (which you also seem to have a problem with).

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Because he's the 1st president of the United States and set precedents that even Barrack Obama will follow.
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You're an angry little poster aren't you! :?Curlyfrii87

He's bringing up as many controversial topics as he can. I'm guessing "Is there a God or not" is his next one.

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[QUOTE="Curlyfrii87"]You're an angry little poster aren't you! :?Cwagmire21

He's bringing up as many controversial topics as he can. I'm guessing "Is there a God or not" is his next one.

I'll put 5 on a 2012 thread! :P

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[QUOTE="Curlyfrii87"]You're an angry little poster aren't you! :?Cwagmire21

He's bringing up as many controversial topics as he can. I'm guessing "Is there a God or not" is his next one.

I'm guessing it's just for lulz. "Raped their souls" is just too over-the-top, even for GS.
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#11 3-Legged_Man
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Raped their souls?Cherokee_Jack
Do you know how Columbus treated the Native Americans? Yes, raped them horribly.
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#12 NumCha
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Lol, well you also have "in god we trust" on your coinage

and he was a billion times more mean, sexist, homophobic and horrible

than washington ever was

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Our founding fathers certainly weren't perfect. IIRC Jefferson was the only one to free his slaves. Though despite this they did make many positive contributions.

Columbus though.... ugh. Practically everything about him is an all out lie. Fortunately at least Columbus day isn't really as recognized. All my schools had class on that day.

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#14 3-Legged_Man
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[QUOTE="NumCha"]

Lol, well you also have "in god we trust" on your coinage

and he was a billion times more mean, sexist, homophobic and horrible

than washington ever was

Yeah good point. :lol:
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Our founding fathers certainly weren't perfect. IIRC Jefferson was the only one to free his slaves. Though despite this they did make many positive contributions. ThePlothole
So they make a few positive contributions, and all negatives are washed away? Especially a negative like slavery? So can I murder a bunch of innocent people, as long as I also help a few old ladies carry their groceries every once in a while? Then you can say, "yeah he was a horrible murderer, but at least he made positive contributions to society when he helped those old ladies with their groceries." :roll:
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]Our founding fathers certainly weren't perfect. IIRC Jefferson was the only one to free his slaves. Though despite this they did make many positive contributions. 3-Legged_Man
So they make a few positive contributions, and all negatives are washed away? Especially a negative like slavery? So can I murder a bunch of innocent people, as long as I also help a few old ladies carry their groceries every once in a while? Then you can say, "yeah he was a horrible murderer, but at least he made positive contributions to society when he helped those old ladies with their groceries." :roll:

The winners write history. He was placed on our currency for all the good he did that was highlighted while the bad was covered up.

I find it odd that you are so against these slave owners but you can't stand gay pride. I would think one should be for both or against both.

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I find it odd that you are so against these slave owners but you can't stand gay pride. I would think one should be for both or against both.Cwagmire21
What exactly are you saying here?
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]Our founding fathers certainly weren't perfect. IIRC Jefferson was the only one to free his slaves. Though despite this they did make many positive contributions. 3-Legged_Man
So they make a few positive contributions, and all negatives are washed away? Especially a negative like slavery? So can I murder a bunch of innocent people, as long as I also help a few old ladies carry their groceries every once in a while? Then you can say, "yeah he was a horrible murderer, but at least he made positive contributions to society when he helped those old ladies with their groceries." :roll:

No it doesn't. But when you think about it, history really isn't kind. We are all here today because of conquerors. It's very likely that the blood of some of these people is flowing through your own veins.

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George Washington was a good person. Slavery was the norm then. Guess which race started it? Blacks. Slavery existed before Europeans did. Just be happy that racial slavery dosent exist in America now, and fight the slavery that still exists, such as conscription and ridiculous laws that imply you dont own your body.
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[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]I find it odd that you are so against these slave owners but you can't stand gay pride. I would think one should be for both or against both.Cherokee_Jack
What exactly are you saying here?

I'm tying together his two topics on this board. Sorry for the confusion.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]I find it odd that you are so against these slave owners but you can't stand gay pride. I would think one should be for both or against both.Cwagmire21

What exactly are you saying here?

I'm tying together his two topics on this board. Sorry for the confusion.

I know he made the "Straight Pride" topic. I just wondered what your point was in that sentence I quoted.
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I find it odd that you are so against these slave owners but you can't stand gay pride. I would think one should be for both or against both.Cwagmire21
Slavery was/is repulsive. Slave owners deserve no respect. The gay pride thing is just that it's annoying and unnecessary. I'm not against homosexuality in general.
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[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]Our founding fathers certainly weren't perfect. IIRC Jefferson was the only one to free his slaves. Though despite this they did make many positive contributions. ThePlothole
So they make a few positive contributions, and all negatives are washed away? Especially a negative like slavery? So can I murder a bunch of innocent people, as long as I also help a few old ladies carry their groceries every once in a while? Then you can say, "yeah he was a horrible murderer, but at least he made positive contributions to society when he helped those old ladies with their groceries." :roll:

No it doesn't. But when you think about it, history really isn't kind. We are all here today because of conquerors. It's very likely that the blood of some of these people is flowing through your own veins.

That doesn't mean we should celebrate it. We can accept that brutality brought us to where we are today, but also, we realize today that that's not the right way to do things, so we should put an end to constantly looking back fondly upon our past conquests. It's not healthy for the future.
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#25 Cwagmire21
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[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] What exactly are you saying here?Cherokee_Jack

I'm tying together his two topics on this board. Sorry for the confusion.

I know he made the "Straight Pride" topic. I just wondered what your point was in that sentence I quoted.

Oh ok - I'll explain:

Three leg seems to be against racism because he's against slavery and (maybe I'm assuming here) believes all the races are equal. However, he does not like gay pride - therefore he does not believe all sexual orientations are equal. So I find it ironic how he is saying we shouldn't praise men who didn't believe in equality among race but he is saying we should praise those against gay pride.

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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]Our founding fathers certainly weren't perfect. IIRC Jefferson was the only one to free his slaves. Though despite this they did make many positive contributions. 3-Legged_Man
So they make a few positive contributions, and all negatives are washed away? Especially a negative like slavery? So can I murder a bunch of innocent people, as long as I also help a few old ladies carry their groceries every once in a while? Then you can say, "yeah he was a horrible murderer, but at least he made positive contributions to society when he helped those old ladies with their groceries." :roll:

I think the positives far out weight the negatives. :|
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#27 3-Legged_Man
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

I'm tying together his two topics on this board. Sorry for the confusion.

Cwagmire21

I know he made the "Straight Pride" topic. I just wondered what your point was in that sentence I quoted.

Oh ok - I'll explain:

Three leg seems to be against racism because he's against slavery and (maybe I'm assuming here) believes all the races are equal. However, he does not like gay pride - therefore he does not believe all sexual orientations are equal. So I find it ironic how he is saying we shouldn't praise men who didn't believe in equality among race but he is saying we should praise those against gay pride.

Don't speak for me. You're wrong. I never said all sexual orientations aren't equal, in fact I said they are, and that's why gay pride is silly, because they're not any more special than anyone else.
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[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]Our founding fathers certainly weren't perfect. IIRC Jefferson was the only one to free his slaves. Though despite this they did make many positive contributions. Juggernaut140
So they make a few positive contributions, and all negatives are washed away? Especially a negative like slavery? So can I murder a bunch of innocent people, as long as I also help a few old ladies carry their groceries every once in a while? Then you can say, "yeah he was a horrible murderer, but at least he made positive contributions to society when he helped those old ladies with their groceries." :roll:

I think the positives far out weight the negatives. :|

Slavery is quite a significant negative, don't you think? :? Hard to "outweigh" that.
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[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] I know he made the "Straight Pride" topic. I just wondered what your point was in that sentence I quoted.3-Legged_Man

Oh ok - I'll explain:

Three leg seems to be against racism because he's against slavery and (maybe I'm assuming here) believes all the races are equal. However, he does not like gay pride - therefore he does not believe all sexual orientations are equal. So I find it ironic how he is saying we shouldn't praise men who didn't believe in equality among race but he is saying we should praise those against gay pride.

Don't speak for me. You're wrong. I never said all sexual orientations aren't equal, in fact I said they are, and that's why gay pride is silly, because they're not any more special than anyone else.

Gay pride isn't about being better - it's about not being ashamed of being gay - which you even said is the reason why there's so many gays in the closet - because they feel ASHAMED of it.

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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] So they make a few positive contributions, and all negatives are washed away? Especially a negative like slavery? So can I murder a bunch of innocent people, as long as I also help a few old ladies carry their groceries every once in a while? Then you can say, "yeah he was a horrible murderer, but at least he made positive contributions to society when he helped those old ladies with their groceries." :roll:3-Legged_Man
I think the positives far out weight the negatives. :|

Slavery is quite a significant negative, don't you think? :? Hard to "outweigh" that.

Helping to lay the framework for one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind is more positive than the owning of slaves is negative in my opinion.
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because without slavery the US wouldn't have existed. and he was the first president...
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[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

Oh ok - I'll explain:

Three leg seems to be against racism because he's against slavery and (maybe I'm assuming here) believes all the races are equal. However, he does not like gay pride - therefore he does not believe all sexual orientations are equal. So I find it ironic how he is saying we shouldn't praise men who didn't believe in equality among race but he is saying we should praise those against gay pride.

Don't speak for me. You're wrong. I never said all sexual orientations aren't equal, in fact I said they are, and that's why gay pride is silly, because they're not any more special than anyone else.

Gay pride isn't about being better - it's about not being ashamed of being gay - which you even said is the reason why there's so many gays in the closet - because they feel ASHAMED of it.

No longer being ashamed doesn't mean they have to be obnoxious.
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Helping to lay the framework for one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind is more positive than the owning of slaves is negative in my opinion.-Sun_Tzu-
"one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind " Umm, no.
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[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] Don't speak for me. You're wrong. I never said all sexual orientations aren't equal, in fact I said they are, and that's why gay pride is silly, because they're not any more special than anyone else. 3-Legged_Man

Gay pride isn't about being better - it's about not being ashamed of being gay - which you even said is the reason why there's so many gays in the closet - because they feel ASHAMED of it.

No longer being ashamed doesn't mean they have to be obnoxious.

Well, we aren't going to get anywhere because you believe every gay pride parade includes drugs, nudity, mayhem and the sorts.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Helping to lay the framework for one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind is more positive than the owning of slaves is negative in my opinion.3-Legged_Man
"one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind " Umm, no.

List 10 greater ones.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Helping to lay the framework for one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind is more positive than the owning of slaves is negative in my opinion.3-Legged_Man
"one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind " Umm, no.

Tell me five nations that have had a bigger influence on society in their respective time periods.
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[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Helping to lay the framework for one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind is more positive than the owning of slaves is negative in my opinion.Cherokee_Jack
"one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind " Umm, no.

List 10 greater ones.

Now I'm intrigued lol.

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[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Helping to lay the framework for one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind is more positive than the owning of slaves is negative in my opinion.Cherokee_Jack
"one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind " Umm, no.

List 10 greater ones.

Canada England Germany Austria France Sweden Belgium Holland Italy Japan
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] "one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind " Umm, no.3-Legged_Man
List 10 greater ones.

Canada England Germany Austria France Sweden Belgium Holland Italy Japan

And what are these countries greatness based on?
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] "one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind " Umm, no.3-Legged_Man
List 10 greater ones.

Canada England Germany Austria France Sweden Belgium Holland Italy Japan

Because Germany Italy, and Japan don't have any bad history......... I hope those were jokes.

While I can't think of anything bad Canada, Sweden, and Holland ever did - what good have they done?

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washington was the first president of the united states of america. he was a founding father liberating us from monarchal british rule. HE WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT IN OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM. THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM THAT ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN THIS LAND. he marks a significant turning point that allowed for slavery to be ended wether he had them or not is irrelevent to his positive influence.
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[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] List 10 greater ones.Cwagmire21

Canada England Germany Austria France Sweden Belgium Holland Italy Japan

Because Germany Italy, and Japan don't have any bad history......... I hope those were jokes.

While I can't think of anything bad Canada, Sweden, and Holland ever did - what good have they done?

I could have put more. Spain, Luxembourg... All these countries are better than America because they are older and wiser, less focused on stepping on each other to gain financial wealth, less consumed by violence. More mature, understanding, and civil.
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washington was the first president of the united states of america. he was a founding father liberating us from monarchal british rule. HE WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT IN OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM. THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM THAT ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN THIS LAND. he marks a significant turning point that allowed for slavery to be ended wether he had them or not is irrelevent to his positive influence. blackacidevil96
Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. :roll: Do you know how silly it looks for you to say that George Washington helped the slaves, when he owned some?
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[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] Canada England Germany Austria France Sweden Belgium Holland Italy Japan3-Legged_Man

Because Germany Italy, and Japan don't have any bad history......... I hope those were jokes.

While I can't think of anything bad Canada, Sweden, and Holland ever did - what good have they done?

I could have put more. Spain, Luxembourg... All these countries are better than America because they are older and wiser, less focused on stepping on each other to gain financial wealth, less consumed by violence. More mature, understanding, and civil.

Spanish Inquisition? c'mon

I'm sorry but what the heck has Luxembourg done?

You're really stretching it man.

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3 legs get off your high horse. you are not saying anything that hasent been said before. your thoughts are not revolutionary. and you really arent that enlightened. instead of fixing supposed problems within society you complain about them. relax.
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[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] Canada England Germany Austria France Sweden Belgium Holland Italy Japan3-Legged_Man

Because Germany Italy, and Japan don't have any bad history......... I hope those were jokes.

While I can't think of anything bad Canada, Sweden, and Holland ever did - what good have they done?

I could have put more. Spain, Luxembourg... All these countries are better than America because they are older and wiser, less focused on stepping on each other to gain financial wealth, less consumed by violence. More mature, understanding, and civil.

Yeah, because countries like England, Germany, and Spain in their history haven't been focused on financial wealth, haven't been consumed by violence, have been more understanding, and have been civil :roll:
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[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]washington was the first president of the united states of america. he was a founding father liberating us from monarchal british rule. HE WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT IN OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM. THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM THAT ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN THIS LAND. he marks a significant turning point that allowed for slavery to be ended wether he had them or not is irrelevent to his positive influence. 3-Legged_Man
Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. :roll: Do you know how silly it looks for you to say that George Washington helped the slaves, when he owned some?

you clearly didnt read what i said. i said he was one of the founders of our democratic system. the system that allowed slaves to be abolished. if we had stayed under british rule its possible we may have even still had slaves today. welcome to the beauty of democracy. you know that thing that washington helped found in this country.

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#48 -Sun_Tzu-
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Three-Legged_Man, take a wild guess which country funded Christopher Columbus's expedition to the America's.
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#49 3-Legged_Man
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[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

Because Germany Italy, and Japan don't have any bad history......... I hope those were jokes.

While I can't think of anything bad Canada, Sweden, and Holland ever did - what good have they done?

-Sun_Tzu-

I could have put more. Spain, Luxembourg... All these countries are better than America because they are older and wiser, less focused on stepping on each other to gain financial wealth, less consumed by violence. More mature, understanding, and civil.

Yeah, because countries like England, Germany, and Spain in their history haven't been focused on financial wealth, haven't been consumed by violence, have been more understanding, and have been civil :roll:

You said it. HISTORY.

With America, it's the current trend. I guess you didn't see where I said "older and wiser"? I was talking to a lady from Germany and she said the same thing, that Europe is more relaxed and understanding now, simply because they are comprised of older nations, with more history, and have had time to grow together, and beyond the stupid things they used to do. America is still a young nation, and it shows in the way we act. America is the most backwards nation on the planet, with the most ridiculous and pointless laws, and you call it a great country? We could learn a lot from Europe.

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#50 pygmahia5
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3 legs get off your high horse. you are not saying anything that hasent been said before. your thoughts are not revolutionary. and you really arent that enlightened. instead of fixing supposed problems within society you complain about them. relax. blackacidevil96
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