Why do Christians(+ others?)think the world is only 6000 years old????

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#1 GreekGameManiac
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:S why would they believe in such a naive thing?

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#2 FMAB_GTO
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been wondering the same thing.
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Because they cram Bible lessons into the cirriculum at the expense of those scientific subjects that they don't exactly care for.

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Because religious people are stupid and religion is the work of Satan. It's all part of the devil's plan to destroy our science, and anyone who isn't an atheist is either totally evil or 100% stupid.
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#5 ShadowsDemon
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:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:
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:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:ShadowsDemon

This guy is cool.

That's really all I have to say.

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#7 TheWalkingGhost
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Not all of them believe that. Now back to your bridge troll.
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#8 norm41x
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People believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:

2 Religious views:

7 days = 7 days (a week)

or the view that remembers Science exists,

7 days = Billions of years of process

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Because they haven't been brainwashed by society.
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#10 sandbox3d
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I'm not a Christian, but I am religious and I don't believe that. I have yet to find any instance where science clashes with my religious beliefs. As a matter of fact, there are times when science only helps to reinforce my beliefs.

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#11 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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Because they're ****ing idiots....period.
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#12 deactivated-608ba1249f50e
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The world is not 6000 years old, it's your age. The world has only existed as long as you have, because you were born into this alternate dream reality as an experiment by aliens. Their leader's name? MATT... RAMNEY...
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#13 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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Because Jesus

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:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:ShadowsDemon

This really, you shouldn't really generalize a entire group of people. Nor should you assume everyone wants religion cramed into the public school system. Hell 40% of American scientists ARE theistic/religious. And please don't think the pig ignorant view that Christians are to science what vampires are to garlic. Genetics, the Big Bang theory, physics and chemistry all had immense contribution done by Christians. Islam also contributed to science with trigonometry, algebra as well as medicine. Ever wonder why our numbers are considered "Arabic?"

With all due respect, it's the equivalent of stereotyping atheists as something awful and it's insulting to assume that ALL people of faith are of animalistic and substandard intelligence or "f***ing idiots'.

And try doing some researchbefore going on a blanket statement.

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#15 tenaka2
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These guys are pretty big on the 6k earth front.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

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#16 GrayF0X786
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Muslims do not believe this, and i am sure alot of christians do not either, stop being a nut.

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#17 GrayF0X786
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I have yet to find any instance where science clashes with my religious beliefs. As a matter of fact, there are times when science only helps to reinforce my beliefs.

sandbox3d

^^

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#18 dramaybaz
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Difference between taken as literal 7 earth days, or 7 ages.
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I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.

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I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.

junglist101

the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though.

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#21 junglist101
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I have yet to find any instance where science clashes with my religious beliefs. As a matter of fact, there are times when science only helps to reinforce my beliefs.

GrayF0X786

^^

Oh, it does clash with whatever religion you are... Science is based on evidence and reason not on your feelings and assumptions.

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:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:ShadowsDemon

I totally agree with ShadowsDemon. And religious people believing in science are not that few as many would think.

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#23 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I have yet to find any instance where science clashes with my religious beliefs. As a matter of fact, there are times when science only helps to reinforce my beliefs.

junglist101

^^

Oh, it does clash with whatever religion you are... Science is based on evidence and reason not on your feelings and assumpti ons.

keep hating bro.

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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.

GrayF0X786

the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though.

How have you decided whcih parts are true and which aren't?

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#25 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.

junglist101

the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though.

How have you decided whcih parts are true and which aren't?

i cannot say for sure, which is why i don't intentionaly follow the bible.

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It's just the YECs that believe that and it's because they think their books are literal and without error.
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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.

GrayF0X786

the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though.

The parts you choose?
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Not all Christians are Creationists. Horrible misconception among religion bashers.

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Not all Christians are Creationists. Horrible misconception among religion bashers.

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Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.
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#30 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Not all Christians are Creationists. Horrible misconception among religion bashers.

krazykillaz

Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.

The freaking Catholic Church aknowledges and believes in evolution.

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[QUOTE="krazykillaz"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Not all Christians are Creationists. Horrible misconception among religion bashers.

Samurai_Xavier

Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.

The freaking Catholic Church aknowledges and believes in evolution.

And they still believe God created the universe. :?
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Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.

If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.

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#33 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="krazykillaz"] Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.krazykillaz

The freaking Catholic Church aknowledges and believes in evolution.

And they still believe God created the universe. :?

Yes, its possible to believe in both. My bad though, misread the young-earth creationists part.

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Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.

If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.

WiiCubeM1

It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:applesxc47

This guy is cool.

That's really all I have to say.

If you're serious, then thanks :P
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People believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:

2 Religious views:

7 days = 7 days (a week)

or the view that remembers Science exists,

7 days = Billions of years of process

norm41x
I agree with that. 7 days isn't meant to be literal. Anyone who thinks so clearly has some issues.
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[QUOTE="norm41x"]

People believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:

2 Religious views:

7 days = 7 days (a week)

or the view that remembers Science exists,

7 days = Billions of years of process

ShadowsDemon
I agree with that. 7 days isn't meant to be literal. Anyone who thinks so clearly has some issues.

So its a time period of convenience that fits in with whatever science tells them at the time Sounds malleable
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Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.

If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.

junglist101

It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.

That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="norm41x"]

People believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:

2 Religious views:

7 days = 7 days (a week)

or the view that remembers Science exists,

7 days = Billions of years of process

chaoscougar1
I agree with that. 7 days isn't meant to be literal. Anyone who thinks so clearly has some issues.

So its a time period of convenience that fits in with whatever science tells them at the time Sounds malleable

So I'm guessing you suggest that it be taken literally then? :)
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Why do you generalize? All Christians (and others) don't think the world is only 6000 years old. Topic fail....
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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.

If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.

WiiCubeM1

It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.

That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.

I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is

The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.

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[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.

junglist101

That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.

I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is

The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.

It's always been taught that a "day" for God is not the same as a day for humans.
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[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.

junglist101

That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.

I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is

The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.

It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.

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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.

WiiCubeM1

I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is

The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.

It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.

Ssh...they like to pick and choose when they bash....
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I agree with that. 7 days isn't meant to be literal. Anyone who thinks so clearly has some issues.

So its a time period of convenience that fits in with whatever science tells them at the time Sounds malleable

So I'm guessing you suggest that it be taken literally then? :)

It was Then science shed some light So now its a metaphor Malleable
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Because they're stupid

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#47 junglist101
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[QUOTE="junglist101"]I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is

The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.

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It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.

Ssh...they like to pick and choose when they bash....

I prefer a respectable conversation about religion like this where it's not necessary to pounce on statements like that. Tbh, I'm not a fan of debating religion for that very reason. I really just like to get people thinking outside of the box a bit on the subject. Probably because I spent 32 out of 33 years not bothering or daring to do so myself.

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[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is

The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.

LJS9502_basic

It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.

Ssh...they like to pick and choose when they bash....

I agree that the thread title is misleading, however the real numbers are still pretty scary.

god

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Bible says Earth was made in 6 days. Bible also says it's true.

There's obviously no way to argue against that.

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Bible says Earth was made in 6 days. Bible also says it's true.

There's obviously no way to argue against that.

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The bible is also full of s***