:S why would they believe in such a naive thing?
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:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:ShadowsDemon
This guy is cool.
That's really all I have to say.
People believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:
2 Religious views:
7 days = 7 days (a week)
or the view that remembers Science exists,
7 days = Billions of years of process
:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:ShadowsDemon
This really, you shouldn't really generalize a entire group of people. Nor should you assume everyone wants religion cramed into the public school system. Hell 40% of American scientists ARE theistic/religious. And please don't think the pig ignorant view that Christians are to science what vampires are to garlic. Genetics, the Big Bang theory, physics and chemistry all had immense contribution done by Christians. Islam also contributed to science with trigonometry, algebra as well as medicine. Ever wonder why our numbers are considered "Arabic?"
With all due respect, it's the equivalent of stereotyping atheists as something awful and it's insulting to assume that ALL people of faith are of animalistic and substandard intelligence or "f***ing idiots'.
And try doing some researchbefore going on a blanket statement.
^^I have yet to find any instance where science clashes with my religious beliefs. As a matter of fact, there are times when science only helps to reinforce my beliefs.
sandbox3d
I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.
the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though.I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.
junglist101
^^Oh, it does clash with whatever religion you are... Science is based on evidence and reason not on your feelings and assumptions.[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]
I have yet to find any instance where science clashes with my religious beliefs. As a matter of fact, there are times when science only helps to reinforce my beliefs.
GrayF0X786
:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:ShadowsDemon
I totally agree with ShadowsDemon. And religious people believing in science are not that few as many would think.
^^Oh, it does clash with whatever religion you are... Science is based on evidence and reason not on your feelings and assumpti ons. keep hating bro.[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]
[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]
I have yet to find any instance where science clashes with my religious beliefs. As a matter of fact, there are times when science only helps to reinforce my beliefs.
junglist101
the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though.How have you decided whcih parts are true and which aren't?[QUOTE="junglist101"]
I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.
GrayF0X786
the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though.How have you decided whcih parts are true and which aren't? i cannot say for sure, which is why i don't intentionaly follow the bible.[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]
[QUOTE="junglist101"]
I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.
junglist101
the bible as a whole is not true, and neither is the word of our creator (as a whole) some parts of it are true though. The parts you choose?[QUOTE="junglist101"]
I find it comical that not all Christians believe in young earth creation and that some think that science is consistant with the bible. It is utterly ridiculous to assume that portions of the bible are figurative, whereas the story of Moses, Jesus , etc. are literal. You can't have it both ways. Either the bible is literal, or it's not. If it's not all literal but some portions are then what method are you using to decipher what is literal and what is not? Whatever sounds like BS is not literal and whatever sounds legit is literal...:roll: And why do you have to try so hard to make the bible consistent with facts and science? If it was true than it would be clearly consitant.
GrayF0X786
Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.Not all Christians are Creationists. Horrible misconception among religion bashers.
Samurai_Xavier
[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.Not all Christians are Creationists. Horrible misconception among religion bashers.
krazykillaz
The freaking Catholic Church aknowledges and believes in evolution.
Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.[QUOTE="krazykillaz"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]
Not all Christians are Creationists. Horrible misconception among religion bashers.
Samurai_Xavier
The freaking Catholic Church aknowledges and believes in evolution.
And they still believe God created the universe. :?Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.
If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.
[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"][QUOTE="krazykillaz"] Well, not young-earth creationists. I don't think there are any Christians who aren't creationists.krazykillaz
The freaking Catholic Church aknowledges and believes in evolution.
And they still believe God created the universe. :? Yes, its possible to believe in both. My bad though, misread the young-earth creationists part.It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.
If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.
WiiCubeM1
[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]:lol: I'm religious, and I don't believe that at all. The world is billions of years old. Check carbon dating guys. Wow..a religious person who actually believes in science! The dawn of a new age is here! :roll:applesxc47
This guy is cool.
That's really all I have to say.
If you're serious, then thanks :PI agree with that. 7 days isn't meant to be literal. Anyone who thinks so clearly has some issues.People believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:
2 Religious views:
7 days = 7 days (a week)
or the view that remembers Science exists,
7 days = Billions of years of process
norm41x
[QUOTE="norm41x"]I agree with that. 7 days isn't meant to be literal. Anyone who thinks so clearly has some issues. So its a time period of convenience that fits in with whatever science tells them at the time Sounds malleablePeople believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:
2 Religious views:
7 days = 7 days (a week)
or the view that remembers Science exists,
7 days = Billions of years of process
ShadowsDemon
It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]
Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.
If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.
junglist101
That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.
[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="norm41x"]I agree with that. 7 days isn't meant to be literal. Anyone who thinks so clearly has some issues. So its a time period of convenience that fits in with whatever science tells them at the time Sounds malleable So I'm guessing you suggest that it be taken literally then? :)People believe that the world was made in 7 days bit is literal. Religious people believe that God made the world in 7 days and then there are the ones who believe that 7 days were actually millions/billions of years. They believe that God lives in a place where time holds still... Or something similar to that. In other words:
2 Religious views:
7 days = 7 days (a week)
or the view that remembers Science exists,
7 days = Billions of years of process
chaoscougar1
It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.[QUOTE="junglist101"]
[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]
Because some monk used doohickeys and whatchamacallits to factor the whoozits from the Bible and came up with that number.
If I can agree with people opposed to religion on anything, it's that the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old. That's not mentioned anywhere.
WiiCubeM1
That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.
I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there isThe idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.
[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]
[QUOTE="junglist101"]It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.
junglist101
That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.
I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there isThe idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.
It's always been taught that a "day" for God is not the same as a day for humans.[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]
[QUOTE="junglist101"]It's really not that complex to figure out. I think the estimate mostly comes from the parts of the bible where it lays out the geneology starting with Adam and Eve.
junglist101
That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.
I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there isThe idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.
It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.
I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is[QUOTE="junglist101"]
[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]
That part makes sense, but there are several other factors most biblical mathmeticians never took into consideration or totally guessed on, like the amount of years between the testaments, or how long the "days" really were in Genesis.
WiiCubeM1
The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.
It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.
Ssh...they like to pick and choose when they bash....[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"][QUOTE="junglist101"]I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is
The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.
LJS9502_basic
It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.
Ssh...they like to pick and choose when they bash....I prefer a respectable conversation about religion like this where it's not necessary to pounce on statements like that. Tbh, I'm not a fan of debating religion for that very reason. I really just like to get people thinking outside of the box a bit on the subject. Probably because I spent 32 out of 33 years not bothering or daring to do so myself.[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"][QUOTE="junglist101"]I'm a little confused with the idea that the concept of a day changed. Considering that genesis was written quite some time after those events supposedly took place I don't see why the author would call those days "days" if the term day represented something different then it did when the author wrote the old testament. If that makes any sense. There may be some translation reasons but I don't think there is
The idea that a "day" represented more than what we consider a day now just seems like an attempt to shape the creation story to fit what we know about the age of the earth and the universe.
LJS9502_basic
It probably is, but there is also a passage in the Bible that states that a day to God is "like 1,000 years". There is no such thing as concrete fact in religion.
Ssh...they like to pick and choose when they bash....I agree that the thread title is misleading, however the real numbers are still pretty scary.
Bible says Earth was made in 6 days. Bible also says it's true.
There's obviously no way to argue against that.
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