Why do girls stay with guys who mistreat them?

Interesting vid on the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOIYscU7TQ4&feature=player_embedded

Idk what it is, but I agree with a lot of what he says. I've seen so many girls stay with guys who treat them like complete ****. I guess it shouldn't be surprising when a show like Jersey Shore becomes an international phenomenon =/ Thoughts?

Sounds like he just got friend zoned.

Damn.... that guy said more in a few minutes than I could in an hour. Looks like I have a new man crush. :oops:

girls like douchebags.

because they act aloof, and are spontaneous.

and on average,

"hot" guys are usually douchebags.

and let's face it,

most girls go for how "hot" a guy is.

at least where i live anyways.

Sounds like he just got friend zoned.

Espada12

lol maybe so but he raises a lot of interesting points. It always amazes me when really attractive women get sucked into these destructive relationships with guys that are inferior to them in every way.

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Sounds like he just got friend zoned.

DarkChiefGaiden

lol maybe so but he raises a lot of interesting points. It always amazes me when really attractive women get sucked into these destructive relationships with guys that are inferior to them in every way.

I always wonder about that as well, though it doesn't bother me, I go for the quiet types more, can't really take noise. I've always thought it to be a phase though, most of them generally grow out of it.. most I've seen at least.

Eh, it's more like this: Most girls don't want to dig for your dark side, no one likes to be with someone for a year and then one day get the **** beat out of them, so being nice or seeming super interested in everything off the bat usually ends up leading to friendship, you don't hang out with your guy friends expecting one of them to give you a smooch for liking the same things you do do you? So the displays of douchebaggery are usually just a front, the actual relationship might be great.

As for women who stay with men who beat them I have no answer at all.

God, I'm so tired of guys saying they can't get a girl because they are "nice". Utter bull****. Stop blaming the world for your own inadequacies (not directed at anyone in particular btw).CocoMarshmellow

She lies and says she's in love with him. Can't find a betterman.Nifty_Shark

cos they are not clear with what they want they think something but they do different

There'a a difference between being passive and being nice. There's nothing wrong with being kind and respectful but it's also important to be assertive and I think sometimes that's the problem for nice guys. Another part of it I would think is that women in general have been conditioned to find that 'bad boy' type of guy more attractive and once you're sucked into a relationship it's hard to realize how bad it is until you're out.

There'a a difference between being passive and being nice. There's nothing wrong with being kind and respectful but it's also important to be assertive and I think sometimes that's the problem for nice guys. Another part of it I would think is that women in general have been conditioned to find that 'bad boy' type of guy more attractive and once you're sucked into a relationship it's hard to realize how bad it is until you're out.

DarkChiefGaiden

What would be some examples of this "conditioning" you speak of?

God, I'm so tired of guys saying they can't get a girl because they are "nice". Utter bull****. Stop blaming the world for your own inadequacies (not directed at anyone in particular btw).CocoMarshmellow

This. Lots of guys like to use the excuse that girls will only date "bad boys" because they're hot and exciting, but I believe that to be a horrible misconception. Girls want a guy who is both nice AND attractive to them, saying that girls date douches all the time is slightly insulting. If you can't seem to be in a relationship, there's probably a reason why. So yes, I agree, stop blaming everyone else for it.

There'a a difference between being passive and being nice. There's nothing wrong with being kind and respectful but it's also important to be assertive and I think sometimes that's the problem for nice guys. Another part of it I would think is that women in general have been conditioned to find that 'bad boy' type of guy more attractive and once you're sucked into a relationship it's hard to realize how bad it is until you're out.

DarkChiefGaiden

I think some of it has to do with insecurity and also they want to see if they can change the guy.

also they want to see if they can change the guy.

Rekunta

[QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"]God, I'm so tired of guys saying they can't get a girl because they are "nice". Utter bull****. Stop blaming the world for your own inadequacies (not directed at anyone in particular btw).Suzy_Q_Kazoo

This. Lots of guys like to use the excuse that girls will only date "bad boys" because they're hot and exciting, but I believe that to be a horrible misconception. Girls want a guy who is both nice AND attractive to them, saying that girls date douches all the time is slightly insulting. If you can't seem to be in a relationship, there's probably a reason why. So yes, I agree, stop blaming everyone else for it.

it's not a horrible misconception.

not all girls are like that. obviously.

most girls where i am from are.

and i don't have problems obtaining girlfriends.

i treat my girlfriends like princesses.

i'm not blaming anybody.

what the hell?

one girlfriend i had broke up with me specifically because another guy liked her, and he was "hot."

and he treats her like garbage.

that's one example.

i can name plenty.

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

also they want to see if they can change the guy.

CocoMarshmellow

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I'm sure there are many girls out there who see some guys as a challenge.

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

also they want to see if they can change the guy.

CocoMarshmellow

[QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

also they want to see if they can change the guy.

Rekunta

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I'm sure there are many girls out there who see some guys as a challenge.

[QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

also they want to see if they can change the guy.

DarkChiefGaiden

Exactly, well put.

[QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

also they want to see if they can change the guy.

DarkChiefGaiden

Somebody post the comic with the badass biker/smoker who then is forced to turn into a square by his GF who then leaves him because "he's not the person she fell in love with" :lol:

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[QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"]God, I'm so tired of guys saying they can't get a girl because they are "nice". Utter bull****. Stop blaming the world for your own inadequacies (not directed at anyone in particular btw).no_more_fayth

This. Lots of guys like to use the excuse that girls will only date "bad boys" because they're hot and exciting, but I believe that to be a horrible misconception. Girls want a guy who is both nice AND attractive to them, saying that girls date douches all the time is slightly insulting. If you can't seem to be in a relationship, there's probably a reason why. So yes, I agree, stop blaming everyone else for it.

it's not a horrible misconception.

not all girls are like that. obviously.

most girls where i am from are.

and i don't have problems obtaining girlfriends.

i treat my girlfriends like princesses.

i'm not blaming anybody.

what the hell?

one girlfriend i had broke up with me specifically because another guy liked her, and he was "hot."

and he treats her like garbage.

that's one example.

i can name plenty.

I can name plenty of examples contradicting that point as well, it doesn't really make a difference. Just my word against yours. I'm sure there are girls like that, but it's starting to become a bit of a generalization.

I never said or even implied that my thoughts were towards you in any capacity though, where did you get that idea from?

[QUOTE="DarkChiefGaiden"][QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"] I don't think I can think of a single instance in my life where any girl I knew has dated a guy in order to see if she could change him.Rekunta

Exactly, well put.

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[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]

This. Lots of guys like to use the excuse that girls will only date "bad boys" because they're hot and exciting, but I believe that to be a horrible misconception. Girls want a guy who is both nice AND attractive to them, saying that girls date douches all the time is slightly insulting. If you can't seem to be in a relationship, there's probably a reason why. So yes, I agree, stop blaming everyone else for it.

Suzy_Q_Kazoo

it's not a horrible misconception.

not all girls are like that. obviously.

most girls where i am from are.

and i don't have problems obtaining girlfriends.

i treat my girlfriends like princesses.

i'm not blaming anybody.

what the hell?

one girlfriend i had broke up with me specifically because another guy liked her, and he was "hot."

and he treats her like garbage.

that's one example.

i can name plenty.

I can name plenty of examples contradicting that point as well, it doesn't really make a difference. Just my word against yours.

I never said or even implied that my thoughts were towards you in any capacity though, where did you get that idea from?

a lot of girls aren't like that.

i'm quite the optimist, too.

so i hope for the best.

but yeah.

i don't know.

it was being said directly after my statements.

just figured it was about me.

Girls stay with guys who mistreat them due to lack of self-confidence. As long as intelligence is belittled by society, and T n' A is promoted, it will be very difficult for young girls to escape the cycle. It's an Idiocracy. There are books written on how America values stupidity over intelligence, and how being a "stylish" moron is socially more desirable in today's age in the US.

Girls stay with guys who mistreat them due to lack of self-confidence. As long as intelligence is belittled by society, and T n' A is promoted, it will be very difficult for young girls to escape the cycle. It's an Idiocracy. There are books written on how America values stupidity over intelligence, and how being a "stylish" moron is socially more desirable in today's age in the US.

Robbler

I think that pretty much sums it up.

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[QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"] I don't think I can think of a single instance in my life where any girl I knew has dated a guy in order to see if she could change him.CocoMarshmellow

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I'm sure there are many girls out there who see some guys as a challenge.

Nah, of course not, but like Gaiden said if during the relationship they see something they think they could help change, then that would be a reason they'd stay in a relationship that people looking at from the outside may see as mistreatment. But I agree.....I doubt many, if any, girls solely choose to date a seemingly bad guy just to attempt to change him.

a lot of girls aren't like that.

i'm quite the optimist, too.

so i hope for the best.

but yeah.

i don't know.

it was being said directly after my statements.

just figured it was about me.

no_more_fayth

I just don't like that generalization to be quite honest, I think it's oversimplified and inaccurate. It depends on a lot of things though.

No, no. If I was replying to your comment I would have quoted you, no worries. I didn't mean to insult you though, sorry if I did so indirectly :(

I was jumping on the train of thought the person I quoted had in response to the video, if it correlated with yours a tad that was coincidence :P

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

a lot of girls aren't like that.

i'm quite the optimist, too.

so i hope for the best.

but yeah.

i don't know.

it was being said directly after my statements.

just figured it was about me.

Suzy_Q_Kazoo

I just don't like that generalization to be quite honest, I think it's oversimplified and inaccurate. It depends on a lot of things though.

No, no. If I was replying to your comment I would have quoted you, no worries. I didn't mean to insult you though, sorry if I did so indirectly :(

I was jumping on the train of thought the person I quoted had in response to the video :P

hahaha.

that's why i took it so personal. :(

friends again?

:P

hahaha.

that's why i took it so personal. :(

friends again?

:P

no_more_fayth

It was pure coincidence if it sounded similar to something you had said, I was trying to express my thoughts with as little text as possible :lol:

Hahah, of course ;)

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

a lot of girls aren't like that.

i'm quite the optimist, too.

so i hope for the best.

but yeah.

i don't know.

it was being said directly after my statements.

just figured it was about me.

Suzy_Q_Kazoo

I just don't like that generalization to be quite honest, I think it's oversimplified and inaccurate. It depends on a lot of things though.

No, no. If I was replying to your comment I would have quoted you, no worries. I didn't mean to insult you though, sorry if I did so indirectly :(

I was jumping on the train of thought the person I quoted had in response to the video, if it correlated with yours a tad that was coincidence :P

you may not like the generalization but sadly its 95% true.

you may not like the generalization but sadly its 95% true.

njean777

Based on...? That's a pretty big percentage :shock:

Because women are the worst. So many nice guys out there who would do ANYTHING for these girls, but no they want the ugly jerk with no future who mistreats them. I cant even tell you how many girls I know are like this.

[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]Based on...? That's a pretty big percentage :shock:

Sigh_han

Based on the statistic that 75% of all statistics are made up. See, i can make up numbers too :)

:lol: So true.

Because women are the worst. So many nice guys out there who would do ANYTHING for these girls, but no they want the ugly jerk with no future who mistreats them. I cant even tell you how many girls I know are like this.

VendettaRed07

I can. Very few.

[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]

:lol: So true.

Sigh_han

*high fives*

I don't even know what that guy was complaining about. If anything, he looks like one of those stereotypical d-bags. And yes, i AM stereotyping, because this thread is apparently full of it anyway.

your claws are coming out. :o:oops: