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#1 TheMutableOne

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I don't understand this. So many parents hate when their children are right about something and they are wrong. If my dad says something and I argue that he is incorrect its fine, but as soon as he starts realising that he is wrong and I am right he raises his voice and acts like I'm the fool for arguing about whatever the topic may be. His argument often resembles the "strawman argument" in ways. All I try to do is let him know that what he thinks isn't always the way it is. I'm not disrespectful about it in any way.

I witnessed the same thing at my girlfriends house the other day. She got into an argument with her mom. As soon as my girlfriend started making valid points her mom exploded into "No you're wrong! I know more than you I went to school longer than you have I know what I'm talking about!". It was completely ridiculous. Any person with a brain could see how frustrated her mom was with being incorrect.

I don't get it. I think I'd be proud if my child proved me wrong.

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#2 Hungry_bunny

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The trick lies is in presenting your arguments without pissing them off or making a big deal out of the debate in the process. Parents can be wrong, but if they're wrong in a discussion that's lasted an hour and where the child has raised their voice during the first two minutes then you have a better chance at stopping a moving train with your pinky than you have at making them admit it. In the end, "the child needs to learn it's lesson... there is no excuse for being disrespectful".

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[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]The trick lies is in presenting your arguments without pissing them off or making a big deal out of the debate in the process. Parents can be wrong, but if they're wrong in a discussion that's lasted an hour and where the child has raised their voice during the first two minutes then you have a better chance at stopping a moving train with your pinky than you have at making them admit it. In the end, "the child needs to learn it's lesson... there is no excuse for being disrespectful".

Exactly. With parents... its not what the argument is but how the argument is done/presented. And you really will not get it until you get a kid yourself. Realizing that at a certain point your child is old enough to make valid decisions and know right things without you can be troublesome for some parents -- after all for how many years of their lives you were the one they relied to for everything and you were like the be all end all for them. For that to go away is hard. And you will never understand that until you have one of your own.

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#4 Dark_Knight6

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I dunno, really. My mom will admit when she's wrong but my dad gets pissed if I correct him.

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Member since 2004 • 13757 Posts

Ah yes, I know of that predicament. When I grew up I realized that arguing with them would lead me nowhere and would do more harm then good, so I either just tagged along reluctantly knowing it was bogus yet not saying it or I just held my tongue all together.

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#6 XilePrincess

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My dad does this ALL the time, he always thinks he's right. he just tells me I'm a stupid child and children should be seen and not heard and whatever when he knows I'm right.

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#7 horgen Moderator

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]The trick lies is in presenting your arguments without pissing them off or making a big deal out of the debate in the process. Parents can be wrong, but if they're wrong in a discussion that's lasted an hour and where the child has raised their voice during the first two minutes then you have a better chance at stopping a moving train with your pinky than you have at making them admit it. In the end, "the child needs to learn it's lesson... there is no excuse for being disrespectful".

Exactly. With parents... its not what the argument is but how the argument is done/presented. And you really will not get it until you get a kid yourself. Realizing that at a certain point your child is old enough to make valid decisions and know right things without you can be troublesome for some parents -- after all for how many years of their lives you were the one they relied to for everything and you were like the be all end all for them. For that to go away is hard. And you will never understand that until you have one of your own.

If so... Why do they keep telling their kid that he/she is wrong? If it is the way it is presented that they didn't like. Also while I understand that for parents it can be hard to not have to be there for their kid(relied on to for everything) they should also be happy. They have done something right as parents.

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#8 cyberdarkkid

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They don't want to admit they're wrong.

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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]The trick lies is in presenting your arguments without pissing them off or making a big deal out of the debate in the process. Parents can be wrong, but if they're wrong in a discussion that's lasted an hour and where the child has raised their voice during the first two minutes then you have a better chance at stopping a moving train with your pinky than you have at making them admit it. In the end, "the child needs to learn it's lesson... there is no excuse for being disrespectful".

Exactly. With parents... its not what the argument is but how the argument is done/presented. And you really will not get it until you get a kid yourself. Realizing that at a certain point your child is old enough to make valid decisions and know right things without you can be troublesome for some parents -- after all for how many years of their lives you were the one they relied to for everything and you were like the be all end all for them. For that to go away is hard. And you will never understand that until you have one of your own.

If so... Why do they keep telling their kid that he/she is wrong? If it is the way it is presented that they didn't like. Also while I understand that for parents it can be hard to not have to be there for their kid(relied on to for everything) they should also be happy. They have done something right as parents.

Well telling their child they are right means they are admitting they are wrong and to some seems like it is a sign of weakness on their part (they are no longer your super hero) and that you are able to stand up on your own. Really, there is no need to justify things any further. Parents can be just as stubborn as their children because after all is said and done, they are all human. But then again... they are your parents.

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#10 _LiquidFlame_

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I don't understand this either, but I hate it. :x

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#12 Video_Game_King

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I'm guessing that there's something in parents that makes them love their children being submissive. When they aren't, things go awry, and it's hard for a kid to be submissive when they realize that they're right about something.

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You have to convince your parents in a clever way. That way, the may not admit that they are wrong but deep inside them they will know it! Of course most of the time,us, kids are wrong! :)

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#14 Overrated_Hero

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When my father is wrong he will admit it and we'll laugh about it, my mother on the other hand will never admit she's wrong if she is.

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[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]The trick lies is in presenting your arguments without pissing them off or making a big deal out of the debate in the process. Parents can be wrong, but if they're wrong in a discussion that's lasted an hour and where the child has raised their voice during the first two minutes then you have a better chance at stopping a moving train with your pinky than you have at making them admit it. In the end, "the child needs to learn it's lesson... there is no excuse for being disrespectful".

wise words my friend, i dont enphasize the discussion, i let my ideas clear calmly without hassle, or making a big deal out of it, i just dont take it too seriously, thats the key to avoiding lots of messes around here

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Exactly. With parents... its not what the argument is but how the argument is done/presented. And you really will not get it until you get a kid yourself. Realizing that at a certain point your child is old enough to make valid decisions and know right things without you can be troublesome for some parents -- after all for how many years of their lives you were the one they relied to for everything and you were like the be all end all for them. For that to go away is hard. And you will never understand that until you have one of your own.

If so... Why do they keep telling their kid that he/she is wrong? If it is the way it is presented that they didn't like. Also while I understand that for parents it can be hard to not have to be there for their kid(relied on to for everything) they should also be happy. They have done something right as parents.

Well telling their child they are right means they are admitting they are wrong and to some seems like it is a sign of weakness on their part (they are no longer your super hero) and that you are able to stand up on your own. Really, there is no need to justify things any further. Parents can be just as stubborn as their children because after all is said and done, they are all human. But then again... they are your parents.

maybe they could have never been your "super hero", you just have to make it clear that their decisions/oppinions arent always right

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#17 horgen Moderator

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Exactly. With parents... its not what the argument is but how the argument is done/presented. And you really will not get it until you get a kid yourself. Realizing that at a certain point your child is old enough to make valid decisions and know right things without you can be troublesome for some parents -- after all for how many years of their lives you were the one they relied to for everything and you were like the be all end all for them. For that to go away is hard. And you will never understand that until you have one of your own.

If so... Why do they keep telling their kid that he/she is wrong? If it is the way it is presented that they didn't like. Also while I understand that for parents it can be hard to not have to be there for their kid(relied on to for everything) they should also be happy. They have done something right as parents.

Well telling their child they are right means they are admitting they are wrong and to some seems like it is a sign of weakness on their part (they are no longer your super hero) and that you are able to stand up on your own. Really, there is no need to justify things any further. Parents can be just as stubborn as their children because after all is said and done, they are all human. But then again... they are your parents.

I'll think I'll drop this argument... (however I want to add) Signs of weakness can be many things... Loosing an argument isn't always the clearest way of showing that

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#18 Juggernaut140

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I don't know. My mom calls "smarting off" which gets me ******* out.

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#19 Blood-Scribe

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My parents aren't like that for some reason. Whenever I correct them they don't overreact or anything, they just say something along the lines of "oh, I didn't know that."

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If so... Why do they keep telling their kid that he/she is wrong? If it is the way it is presented that they didn't like. Also while I understand that for parents it can be hard to not have to be there for their kid(relied on to for everything) they should also be happy. They have done something right as parents.GTR2addict

Well telling their child they are right means they are admitting they are wrong and to some seems like it is a sign of weakness on their part (they are no longer your super hero) and that you are able to stand up on your own. Really, there is no need to justify things any further. Parents can be just as stubborn as their children because after all is said and done, they are all human. But then again... they are your parents.

I'll think I'll drop this argument... (however I want to add) Signs of weakness can be many things... Loosing an argument isn't always the clearest way of showing that

Does it matter here? Not really... since they are your parents. Like I said, its really hard for us to understand it until we have kids of our own. I can guarantee you, that before any of you guys came along they said things like "I will never be my parents" or "I will be the cool parent" blah blah blah ... but then there is a reason why they are your parents.

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All I have to do is tell my dad I don't need him and he gets pissed off. Just told like 15 minutes ago "ok dad, I don't need you" I thought he would be glad that he didn't have to help me, but he gets all offended and angry. Bah! I think I'm gonna dorm for college.

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Member since 2006 • 18549 Posts

My parents are the same. Usually it always reverts to "Because I said so"

Its ridiculous.

They just don't like being wrong.

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I have this problem with my grandfather, he is really stubborn...

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#24 matthayter700

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While this is only an assumption on my part, it seems almost as if it's human nature to be afraid to admit when someone much younger than them knows something they don't. That wouldn't be too surprising in a society that is hell-bent on the notion that the older people are the wiser they are, despite that as people get old enough their brain functions are impaired by their aging, and despite that younger people would've been educated by more modern education.

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#25 enemy-within11

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I actually won an arguement against my dad and he basically told me this: "Go away, I don't want to talk to you no more..." He was so pissed off at me but I was laughing at him because of that comment. But anyways, my mom and dad do both get pissed if I start talking back to them, no idea why.

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#26 Eternal_Triumph

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Pride.

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#27 Ice-Hot_MoFo

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I think that it is really just the parents wanting to show that they are dominate and control their child

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Maybe it embarresses them, it does with my dad.

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] Well telling their child they are right means they are admitting they are wrong and to some seems like it is a sign of weakness on their part (they are no longer your super hero) and that you are able to stand up on your own. Really, there is no need to justify things any further. Parents can be just as stubborn as their children because after all is said and done, they are all human. But then again... they are your parents.

I'll think I'll drop this argument... (however I want to add) Signs of weakness can be many things... Loosing an argument isn't always the clearest way of showing that

Does it matter here? Not really... since they are your parents. Like I said, its really hard for us to understand it until we have kids of our own. I can guarantee you, that before any of you guys came along they said things like "I will never be my parents" or "I will be the cool parent" blah blah blah ... but then there is a reason why they are your parents.

ok i got really confused with all the wrong quote tags now :P

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I wouldn't know, my parents are almost always right.

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#31 xbox3604lyf

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because parents should never give into their winy little kids no matter how right they are. Because once the kids realises that he/she is right and has 'won' the argument then the kid will let this get to their head and start making decisions without their parents approval.

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#32 ramboturd72

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because parents should never give into their winy little kids no matter how right they are. Because once the kids realises that he/she is right and has 'won' the argument then the kid will let this get to their head and start making decisions without their parents approval.xbox3604lyf

Not necessarily. That completely depends on the maturity of the child. An immature child might let it get to their head while a mature child would still be responsible about making decisions.

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no one likes to be wrong .. kids or parents no one likes to be wrong lol

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#34 viewtiful26

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[QUOTE="xbox3604lyf"]because parents should never give into their winy little kids no matter how right they are. Because once the kids realises that he/she is right and has 'won' the argument then the kid will let this get to their head and start making decisions without their parents approval.ramboturd72

Not necessarily. That completely depends on the maturity of the child. An immature child might let it get to their head while a mature child would still be responsible about making decisions.

The real question is...would you still respect an authority figure after you realize that he or she was wrong all along? Granted, it depends on what the seriousness of the situation is, but the child would probably ignore the parent if a similar subject ever comes around, saying that they don't "get it".

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#35 zeorshadow19

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It's harder because they're the ones raising you. Just correct them in a calm respectful way and it'l only end up making them look bad.

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