Why do people go nuts when the picture of Muhhamed is shown?

Look, I know this is probably an ignorant thread. Sure, go ahead and flame me for that. I might have even spelled the guy's name wrong. Go ahead and flame me for that too.

I don't know barely (if anything) about Islam, but can anyone tell me why Islamic people go nuts over the despiction of Muhhamed? I mean, is it really THAT bad to see a prophet who an entire religion is somewhat based on? (cant say entirely cuz i dont know too much about the Quran)

Thanks for helping me clear this up guys (cuz knowledge is power!).

(sees christianity mentioned in 3...2...1...)

Because Mohammed is a very sacred figure in Islam... duh?MattUD1

what about Jesus? wouldnt the same arguement be said about him? he's abviously the foundation of christianity yet his face is all over the place!

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Because Mohammed is a very sacred figure in Islam... duh?icarus212001

what about Jesus? wouldnt the same arguement be said about him? he's abviously the foundation of christianity yet his face is all over the place!

what about Jesus? wouldnt the same arguement be said about him? he's abviously the foundation of christianity yet his face is all over the place!

icarus212001

before the first split of the church into Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox, there was a debate whether they should show illustrations of church figures or not (the Catholics didn't want images shown). now, however, they've eased up on that. and by now I mean within the last thousand years.

do it now!!

How can you post a picture of somone who no one knows what he looks like and then get affended for posting it... stupid.Montaya

In Islam it's considered blasphemy to create a depiction of anything that God created, and especially if such a thing is done to one of the holiest figures in the religion. That's why when you look at Islamic art it's always intricate patterns, never of humans or anything recognizable from reality.GabuEx

Oh snap, its Muhammad :o

do it now!!

maccer101

[QUOTE="Montaya"]How can you post a picture of somone who no one knows what he looks like and then get affended for posting it... stupid.SolidSnake35

err wut =/ you said he was a son so thats how i knew what gender it was, plus i googled it ;)

Let me explain. In Islam, it is forbidden to show pictures of Muhammad (peace be upon him). This was to protect from pictures being dessecrated and reduced to being sold because they are found on toast (remember the Jesus toast anyone?). I am Muslim but I think it is pretty dumb for them to get all mad when someone else does it, because they're doing something bad but I wouldn't worry about it, as long as I'm not doing bad things myself. But sadly, if you look at how poor the people in the Middle East and Africa (yes, Africa is full of Muslims), you'd understand that they can't even get one meal a day for their families, so it's more a matter of there's nothing to do but rot, so they might as well try to stop the disrespect if they can't do anything else. It's not like they can just go get a job like here in the U.S., because there are no jobs because the whole country is messed up. They can't even come to the U.S. or other developed countries (well, most of them can't) because the governments won't let them in if they get the money, and usually they don't have the money to go anywhere, let alone to a new country. If you're wondering why all this happened, the vast majority of their problems came from when the Europeans came, took all of the valuable resources, pretended to establish a government, then left as the nation's gov't was hanging off the edge so they couldn't progress. It's happened for more than 1500 years, and it's happening now with the U.S. in Iraq. It's just what's going on.

Let me explain. In Islam, it is forbidden to show pictures of Muhammad (peace be upon him). This was to protect from pictures being dessecrated and reduced to being sold because they are found on toast (remember the Jesus toast anyone?). I am Muslim but I think it is pretty dumb for them to get all mad when someone else does it, because they're doing something bad but I wouldn't worry about it, as long as I'm not doing bad things myself. But sadly, if you look at how poor the people in the Middle East and Africa (yes, Africa is full of Muslims), you'd understand that they can't even get one meal a day for their families, so it's more a matter of there's nothing to do but rot, so they might as well try to stop the disrespect if they can't do anything else. It's not like they can just go get a job like here in the U.S., because there are no jobs because the whole country is messed up. They can't even come to the U.S. or other developed countries (well, most of them can't) because the governments won't let them in if they get the money, and usually they don't have the money to go anywhere, let alone to a new country. If you're wondering why all this happened, the vast majority of their problems came from when the Europeans came, took all of the valuable resources, pretended to establish a government, then left as the nation's gov't was hanging off the edge so they couldn't progress. It's happened for more than 1500 years, and it's happening now with the U.S. in Iraq. It's just what's going on.

xenos4

Oh ya blame it on the europeans. Tell me this, if this has happened for the past " 1500 " years then why blame europeans for a their incursion which was only about 100 years ago?

i dont see the big deal.

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]In Islam it's considered blasphemy to create a depiction of anything that God created, and especially if such a thing is done to one of the holiest figures in the religion. That's why when you look at Islamic art it's always intricate patterns, never of humans or anything recognizable from reality.xenos4

I could have sworn that that's what I heard, but perhaps I heard wrong. You don't have to get aggressive about it.

muhhamed

[QUOTE="xenos4"][QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]In Islam it's considered blasphemy to create a depiction of anything that God created, and especially if such a thing is done to one of the holiest figures in the religion. That's why when you look at Islamic art it's always intricate patterns, never of humans or anything recognizable from reality.GabuEx

I could have sworn that that's what I heard, but perhaps I heard wrong. You don't have to get aggressive about it.

Well I think what you stated is true since my parents have told me the samething. (I'm a Muslim.)

Because Mohammed is a very sacred figure in Islam... duh?MattUD1

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Because Mohammed is a very sacred figure in Islam... duh?icarus212001

what about Jesus? wouldnt the same arguement be said about him? he's abviously the foundation of christianity yet his face is all over the place!

Well I'm not exactly sure about this but I think there are 21 people in Islam that should never be shown and I think Jesus is one them. So when most people choose not to show an image of Muhammad out of respect for the Muslim people it really isn't true because the same people would allow an image of Jesus. Again I'm not entirely show about how true this is.

It's because Mohamed doesn't have the chiseled good looks that Jesus has.KG86

I laughed I lost lol

Same reason why people go nuts over flag burning.Sajo7

yeah but we dont go destroying embassies -_-

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Same reason why people go nuts over flag burning.hormagaunt

yeah but we dont go destroying embassies -_-

Let me explain. In Islam, it is forbidden to show pictures of Muhammad (peace be upon him). This was to protect from pictures being dessecrated and reduced to being sold because they are found on toast (remember the Jesus toast anyone?). I am Muslim but I think it is pretty dumb for them to get all mad when someone else does it, because they're doing something bad but I wouldn't worry about it, as long as I'm not doing bad things myself. But sadly, if you look at how poor the people in the Middle East and Africa (yes, Africa is full of Muslims), you'd understand that they can't even get one meal a day for their families, so it's more a matter of there's nothing to do but rot, so they might as well try to stop the disrespect if they can't do anything else. It's not like they can just go get a job like here in the U.S., because there are no jobs because the whole country is messed up. They can't even come to the U.S. or other developed countries (well, most of them can't) because the governments won't let them in if they get the money, and usually they don't have the money to go anywhere, let alone to a new country. If you're wondering why all this happened, the vast majority of their problems came from when the Europeans came, took all of the valuable resources, pretended to establish a government, then left as the nation's gov't was hanging off the edge so they couldn't progress. It's happened for more than 1500 years, and it's happening now with the U.S. in Iraq. It's just what's going on.

xenos4

Those last few lines are a load of rubbish. The Islamic world was already in a state of demise when the Europeans came, dont forget for hundreds of years before that the ottomans were trying to conquer Europe, and after loosing at siege of Vienna they would never be able to do it. This marked the beginning of Islamic decline, the Islam world was then a pushover as it destroyed itself with infighting.

Blaming Europe (as usal) is just an excuse, how came Israel in it tiny history has managed to do more than say Egypt has in the last few hundreds years with or without Europeans there, Egypt was independent before Israel Its barley been able to survive yet look at it? Cant even trade with it nabours unlike the Islamic counties that surround it.

[QUOTE="xenos4"]

Let me explain. In Islam, it is forbidden to show pictures of Muhammad (peace be upon him). This was to protect from pictures being dessecrated and reduced to being sold because they are found on toast (remember the Jesus toast anyone?). I am Muslim but I think it is pretty dumb for them to get all mad when someone else does it, because they're doing something bad but I wouldn't worry about it, as long as I'm not doing bad things myself. But sadly, if you look at how poor the people in the Middle East and Africa (yes, Africa is full of Muslims), you'd understand that they can't even get one meal a day for their families, so it's more a matter of there's nothing to do but rot, so they might as well try to stop the disrespect if they can't do anything else. It's not like they can just go get a job like here in the U.S., because there are no jobs because the whole country is messed up. They can't even come to the U.S. or other developed countries (well, most of them can't) because the governments won't let them in if they get the money, and usually they don't have the money to go anywhere, let alone to a new country. If you're wondering why all this happened, the vast majority of their problems came from when the Europeans came, took all of the valuable resources, pretended to establish a government, then left as the nation's gov't was hanging off the edge so they couldn't progress. It's happened for more than 1500 years, and it's happening now with the U.S. in Iraq. It's just what's going on.

Montaya

Oh ya blame it on the europeans. Tell me this, if this has happened for the past " 1500 " years then why blame europeans for a their incursion which was only about 100 years ago?

Exactly, in fact Muslims have been attacking Europe for this long, they conquered Spain, Sicily, southern Italy, Greece, Balkans even parts of southern France and many more in that period.

How about not playing the victim all the time:roll:

People who detest Art are just short minded. Artistic imagination is a beautifull thing. Now, I'm not religious myself. But the thing I noticed is that Christians certainly aren't against Art. They usually even encourage it as far as I'm aware.

The Artist should be free to paint whatever he wants to imo.

Because in that religion, it's considered sacriligous to picture the prophet. It's not considered sacriligous to picture jesus. Different religions, different rules. I just try to respect them.sonicare

Actually, by the ten commandments, if Jesus of Nazareth turns out to have been a false messiah, then a lot of Christian groups who basically worship Jesus (before God) and take an interpretation of Judaism based mainly on the teachings of Paul might be in a world of wrongdoing (biblically speaking). The idea of the "trinity" exists in part because of the necessity of not making Jesus count as idoltry - however again, if he's not the messiah, then Christians carved thousands of graven images of an idol, which they worshipped, an afront to God.

I'm not saying I believe that, but when you put things in a different perspective the end result can be surprising and at least challenge some thought patterns.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]Because in that religion, it's considered sacriligous to picture the prophet. It's not considered sacriligous to picture jesus. Different religions, different rules. I just try to respect them.subrosian

Actually, by the ten commandments, if Jesus of Nazareth turns out to have been a false messiah, then a lot of Christian groups who basically worship Jesus (before God) and take an interpretation of Judaism based mainly on the teachings of Paul might be in a world of wrongdoing (biblically speaking). The idea of the "trinity" exists in part because of the necessity of not making Jesus count as idoltry - however again, if he's not the messiah, then Christians carved thousands of graven images of an idol, which they worshipped, an afront to God.

I'm not saying I believe that, but when you put things in a different perspective the end result can be surprising and at least challenge some thought patterns.

[QUOTE="xenos4"][QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]In Islam it's considered blasphemy to create a depiction of anything that God created, and especially if such a thing is done to one of the holiest figures in the religion. That's why when you look at Islamic art it's always intricate patterns, never of humans or anything recognizable from reality.GabuEx

I could have sworn that that's what I heard, but perhaps I heard wrong. You don't have to get aggressive about it.

na gabu is on the right track, mohammed is TOOO holy to be depicted. sounds like a lame excuse to tell people when they ask when he looked like etc.

If i went to USA and burnt a USA flag infront of native americans, you think they will walk away? no. Same for the picture. In Islam, any form of picture of muhammed or any prophet(including jesus) is blasphemous and shouldnt be taken lightly. I dont get it why would someone draw it in the first place, its obvious they are trying mimick islam. RazMaTaz-1

If i went to USA and burnt a USA flag infront of native americans, you think they will walk away? no. Same for the picture. In Islam, any form of picture of muhammed or any prophet(including jesus) is blasphemous and shouldnt be taken lightly. I dont get it why would someone draw it in the first place, its obvious they are trying mimick islam. RazMaTaz-1

what someone is burning my flag???

*runs around in a large group and fired AK-47 into the air. throws rocks for a few days, burn every single over flag in the world, destory some embassies, boycott all goods from that country, trample some fellow rioters to death, fire some more ak-47 bullets in air, whine how this is horrible*

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]If i went to USA and burnt a USA flag infront of native americans, you think they will walk away? no. Same for the picture. In Islam, any form of picture of muhammed or any prophet(including jesus) is blasphemous and shouldnt be taken lightly. I dont get it why would someone draw it in the first place, its obvious they are trying mimick islam. SolidSnake35

It doenst matter, either way, people will get offended regardless. The only reason people do it is to spark up a riot with the opposing religion, much like the picture of Muhammed. Do you wanna know why Pakistan have banned Youtube in their country? because of a movie trailer called "FITNA" that totally disses Islam that was supposed to be aired online, and guess what, the News didnt mention anything about it did they? All they mentioned was the government of pakistan mistakenly caused Youtube to go down, no reasons for why. Its pathetic that people put Islam down. Muslims dont go around criticising any other religion, so why do people go through drastic measures and diss islam?

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]If i went to USA and burnt a USA flag infront of native americans, you think they will walk away? no. Same for the picture. In Islam, any form of picture of muhammed or any prophet(including jesus) is blasphemous and shouldnt be taken lightly. I dont get it why would someone draw it in the first place, its obvious they are trying mimick islam. RazMaTaz-1

It doenst matter, either way, people will get offended regardless. The only reason people do it is to spark up a riot with the opposing religion, much like the picture of Muhammed. Do you wanna know why Pakistan have banned Youtube in their country? because of a movie trailer called "FITNA" that totally disses Islam that was supposed to be aired online, and guess what, the News didnt mention anything about it did they? All they mentioned was the government of pakistan mistakenly caused Youtube to go down, no reasons for why. Its pathetic that people put Islam down. Muslims dont go around criticising any other religion, so why do people go through drastic measures and diss islam?

no they dont diss us, but they randomly blow people up for not believing in islam, its natural for someone to strike back, even if it is a little cartoon.

beside whatever happened to freedom of speech?