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#1 SideSwipes
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This is something that's bugged me for a while. Why do people refer to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans ect. As asians? That doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be east asians?

Asia is huge and covers places like Iraq and Russia.

So why would refer to people like Jackie Chan for instance, as asian?

That's the most vague C.lassfication ever.

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#2 markop2003
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Well he is asian, though technically the race name is mongoloid
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#3 locopatho
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Yeah I find it hilarious that white russians, arabs, jews, indians, pakinstanies, mongolians, as well as chinese and japanese and many many others, are all asian. You could literally have a person of any colour/features be Asian.
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#4 Mochyc
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It is pretty vague, but when most people hear asian, they automatically think east asian. I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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#6 GabuEx
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This is kind of like the complaint that people sometimes raise about calling citizens of the United States of America "Americans", despite the fact that technically speaking anyone living in either North or South America could be called "American", just as those from Europe are "Europeans". It's a valid complaint, but at the same time the terminology used is well understood and sufficiently precise and descriptive that there is no real practical reason to change it.

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#7 pc-ps360
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This is something that's bugged me for a while. Why do people refer to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans ect. As asians? That doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be east asians?

Asia is huge and covers places like Iraq and Russia.

So why would refer to people like Jackie Chan for instance, as asian?

That's the most vague C.lassfication ever.

SideSwipes

even tho Russia is an asian country. it is usually referred to a European country

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#8 LJS9502_basic  Online
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This is kind of like the complaint that people sometimes raise about calling citizens of the United States of America "Americans", despite the fact that technically speaking anyone living in either North or South America could be called "American", just as those from Europe are "Europeans". It's a valid complaint, but at the same time the terminology used is well understood and sufficiently precise and descriptive that there is no real practical reason to change it.

GabuEx

In regard to the US and Americans.....the correct name of the country is United States of America and thus it's absolutely correct to say American. And in regard to all other countries on the continent....inhabitants are called by country name as well. Peruvian, Brazilian, Mexican, Canadian etc.

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#9 GabuEx
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even tho Russia is an asian country. it is usually referred to a European country

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It's kind of half and half. Western Russia is generally considered part of Europe, while the rest is generally considered part of Asia.

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#10 locopatho
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[QUOTE="SideSwipes"]

This is something that's bugged me for a while. Why do people refer to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans ect. As asians? That doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be east asians?

Asia is huge and covers places like Iraq and Russia.

So why would refer to people like Jackie Chan for instance, as asian?

That's the most vague C.lassfication ever.

pc-ps360

even tho Russia is an asian country. it is usually referred to a European country

It's part of both continents.

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[QUOTE="SideSwipes"]

This is something that's bugged me for a while. Why do people refer to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans ect. As asians? That doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be east asians?

Asia is huge and covers places like Iraq and Russia.

So why would refer to people like Jackie Chan for instance, as asian?

That's the most vague C.lassfication ever.

pc-ps360

even tho Russia is an asian country. it is usually referred to a European country

Russia is in both Europe and Asia......

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#12 Jazz_Fan
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As a round eye. It's much easier to limit down to. :P
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#13 pygmahia5
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haha like in pineapple express. "what kind of asians?! I mean INDIANS are technically ASIAN!!!"
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#14 pengo93
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Probably because they identify physical appearances with a particular region. People who appear as someone said "mongoloid", orignate from Asia, and this is how society percieves Asians due to cultural influences. Likewise, many Moroccans, Khazakhstanis and some Russians appear "Arabic", despite Arabia being a separate region entirely. It's all based on society's views being influenced by certain cultures; it is what it is.

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#15 Metal_Mario99
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Well, we tried saying "Orientals" for a while, but they weren't happy with that either.

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#16 AirGuitarist87
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Because...they're part of Asia?
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#17 Zerocrossings
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Well, we tried saying "Orientals" for a while, but they weren't happy with that either.

Metal_Mario99

Is that considered degratory?

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#18 ZombiefiedZomB
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I think that it is just fine how it is so it does not need to be fixed.
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#19 VaguelyTagged
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Maybe they generalise too much.

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maybe?
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#20 Ninja-Hippo
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It's no more irritating than 'europeans', really. It is indeed too general a word to cover such a vast expanse of countries and peoples.
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#22 wstfld
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[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]As a round eye. It's much easier to limit down to. :P

LOL.
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#23 locopatho
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But it doesn't cover such a vast expanse of countries and peoples. It only covers the Far East type. You know, the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. The Indians are called Indians, the Russians are called Russians, and the warmongers in the desert are called Arabs.

Metal_Mario99
Well that was unpleasent and unnecessary :?
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#24 Ninja-Hippo
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Russia is in both Europe and Asia......

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Which, while we're at it, is baloney! If your country spans two continents, you're too damned big. :P
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This is something that's bugged me for a while. Why do people refer to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans ect. As asians?SideSwipes

My personal anecdotes/experiences (as an Asian) have been that if they don't really know what specific ethnicity you are, then they'll just label ya with what continent you come from.

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#26 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="SideSwipes"]

This is something that's bugged me for a while. Why do people refer to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans ect. As asians?doanm

My personal anecdotes/experiences (as an Asian) have been that if they don't really know what specific ethnicity you are, then they'll just label ya with what continent you come from.

It's probably just a means of avoiding offense; a lot of older citizens i've noticed just refer to everyone from the far east as 'chinese' even when they're obviously korean, japanese or what have you. 'Asian' allows people to not have to guess wrong, i suppose. Either way, we'd be better off without labeling each other at all.
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#27 SideSwipes
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Russia is in both Europe and Asia......

Ninja-Hippo

Which, while we're at it, is baloney! If your country spans two continents, you're too damned big. :P

Istanbul is a city which also spans two continents. It must be destroyed.

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#28 Lonelynight
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Meh, better than being called yellow anyways.
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#29 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Russia is in both Europe and Asia......

SideSwipes

Which, while we're at it, is baloney! If your country spans two continents, you're too damned big. :P

Istanbul is a city which also spans two continents. It must be destroyed.

Heresy! Constantinople shall never fall to you!
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#30 pengo93
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But it doesn't cover such a vast expanse of countries and peoples. It only covers the Far East type. You know, the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. The Indians are called Indians, the Russians are called Russians, and the warmongers in the desert are called Arabs.

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I didn't know Texans were known as Arabs... But seriously though, Texas was a nice place when I visited.

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#31 ImaPirate0202
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generalizations, generalizations everywhere:shock:

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#32 LIONHEART-_-
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Ok I just realized that pronz movie titles are wrong all along. I am disappoint.

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#33 MAZ85
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and the warmongers in the desert are called Arabs.

Metal_Mario99
well that was too racist and offensive
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#34 MAZ85
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but anyway , arabs live in northern africa too , so they're not asians
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#35 Metal_Mario99
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That's why we call them Arabs and not Asians.

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#36 Lto_thaG
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That dude in the picture is not Jackie Chan,that's Bruce Lee.Jackie Chan died in 1973.

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#37 bloodling
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Because we're talking about the "race" of people. Which is why we don't call Russians or Japanese people asians.

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#38 Bladecutter56
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[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

even tho Russia is an asian country. it is usually referred to a European country

GabuEx

It's kind of half and half. Western Russia is generally considered part of Europe, while the rest is generally considered part of Asia.

Would that make them Eurasians?

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#39 00-Riddick-00
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Because they are Asian... What else would i call them?
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#40 aransom
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I thought we had to say Asian because the arbiters of what is and is not politically correct have deemed that we can't say Oriental anymore.

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#42 Wolls
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Personally whenever i think of asians i think of India and Pakistan etc
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#43 SideSwipes
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That dude in the picture is not Jackie Chan,that's Bruce Lee.Jackie Chan died in 1973.

Lto_thaG

Lulwut?

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Geography is HARD!

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#45 Nauron-
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I think it's cool that people from the far east can hog the title of Asian all to themselves even though there are all kinds of races in Asia :P

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#46 Crimsader
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Because they all live in Asia?
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Yeah I find it hilarious that white russians, arabs, jews, indians, pakinstanies, mongolians, as well as chinese and japanese and many many others, are all asian. You could literally have a person of any colour/features be Asian.locopatho
People call them asian cause thats where they are from. People from europe call in all shapes and sizes to. But for racial reasons when you call someone european people automatically assumes they are white. The Same in true for American.
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#48 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Because he's an Asian.

Thankfully we don't live in a world where everyone needs to abide by the TC's level of correctness. It would be a horrible place.

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#49 Mr_Cumberdale
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I dont know why. But at the same time, people refer to people with Caucasian features as white, whether they are from Europe or USA.
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Yeah I find it hilarious that white russians, arabs, jews, indians, pakinstanies, mongolians, as well as chinese and japanese and many many others, are all asian. You could literally have a person of any colour/features be Asian.locopatho

even caucasian!