Why do people support sex-changes?

I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?Mcspanky37

I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?Mcspanky37

"See the thing people need to realize is that it's all mind games the brain is tricking these people with."

Your brain makes your reality, regardless of whether or not it is in fact real, is real to you. You can't re-wire the brain to fix the "problem" (assuming the people would want this "problem" fixed.), so what treatment would be best? Force them to live as they don't see themselves, or allow them to be who they are? And Gender != Sex.

armchair psychologist.

Why do stupid people always think they're an expert on every subject?

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?TigerSpiderman

"See the thing people need to realize is that it's all mind games the brain is tricking these people with."

Your brain makes your reality, regardless of whether or not it is in fact real, is real to you. You can't re-wire the brain to fix the "problem" (assuming the people would want this "problem" fixed.), so what treatment would be best? Force them to live as they don't see themselves, or allow them to be who they are. And Gender != Sex.

Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?Murderstyle75

Because if it only affects them why should i honestly care.FrostyPhantasm

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?Mcspanky37

armchair psychologist.

Why do stupid people always think they're an expert on every subject?

MakeMeaSammitch

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?guynamedbilly

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?guynamedbilly

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?guynamedbilly

armchair psychologist.

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MakeMeaSammitch

What are you talking about? Addicts can eventually get through their addiction. The difference is nothing actually is making them thin this but themselves to a point where it's stuck in their head.

Like saying to yourself "that man might kill me" over and over and eventually you are now a nervous reck that always carries a shot gun in your car. Even after a news report that man died from cancer last year.

TigerSpiderman

Paranoia can be treated, and if someone has it, they should go to a psychiatrist to start getting help.

Now, I don't know much about the treatment of this condition, but I doubt it's much different; being that it has to do with the brain's functioning, understanding why the person thinks this way is important. I'm sure there are cases in which people are not actually transgender, but it's a result of something other problem they're having, and that gets treated instead...

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

armchair psychologist.

Why do stupid people always think they're an expert on every subject?

Inconsistancy

What are you talking about? Addicts can eventually get through their addiction. The difference is nothing actually is making them thin this but themselves to a point where it's stuck in their head.

Like saying to yourself "that man might kill me" over and over and eventually you are now a nervous reck that always carries a shot gun in your car. Even after a news report that man died from cancer last year.

TigerSpiderman

Paranoia can be treated, and if someone has it, they should go to a psychiatrist to start getting help.

Now, I don't know much about the treatment of this condition, but I doubt it's much different; being that it has to do with the brain's functioning, understanding why the person thinks this way is important. I'm sure there are cases in which people are not actually transgender, but it's a result of something other problem they're having, and that gets treated instead...

Why do you care?

You damn schmuck.

It definitely shouldn't be prohibited. But the OP is asking: should it be encouraged? Being a transexual is affixed with stigma and negative connotations by most. Even those who don't care either seem generally uncomfortable in the presence of a transexual. Furthermore, changing your sex is a lot of work and effort - should this desire be encouraged to be held above all other priorities in life?Mcspanky37

I wonder if Obamacare would cover a sex change. Murderstyle75

I'm not going to pretend to understand it....but then again....I don't much care what people choose to do as long as they aren't causing harm to others. And we really didn't need another one of these.LJS9502_basic

But are they causing harm to themselves? Are 14 year old boys mature enough to make the decision that they want to be a girl for the rest of their life? Do you think this is a healthy thing for a person to fixate themselves on for the entirety of their life?

"Gender != Sex.

Inconsistancy

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"Gender != Sex.

norm41x

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not going to pretend to understand it....but then again....I don't much care what people choose to do as long as they aren't causing harm to others. And we really didn't need another one of these.Mcspanky37

But are they causing harm to themselves? Are 14 year old boys mature enough to make the decision that they want to be a girl for the rest of their life? Do you think this is a healthy thing for a person to fixate themselves on for the entirety of their life?

Because 1. It doesn't affect my life in any harmful way so I have no valid reason to be against it. 2. If it makes them happier then they should pursue that happiness.Treflis

I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?Mcspanky37

Ever heard of a nerd woman?

Yeah, thought so

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

armchair psychologist.

Why do stupid people always think they're an expert on every subject?

TigerSpiderman

There are no brain functions associated with gender - so I'm left a little confused by this sentiment. How can you "think" as a female? Especially if you aren't a female? In essence, aren't they only projecting what they think what a female would be thinking?Mcspanky37

"Sex" refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women. (ie, XY, or XX)

"Gender" refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women.

The difference between the sexes is a very narrow line comprised of merely 59 million base pairs ('Y' chromosome) (the whole genome is > 3billion). And both men and women are subject to essentially the same social conditions, being that we live together. The pressures may vary slightly based on how they think of themselves, and how people act towards them, but overall it's not very different. 

So thinking like a female is, partly genetic and that is prone to error(nature), and partly due to social interactions (nurture). It's not really some uncrossable berrier, but rather a fine line.

Your question isn't really far off asking "Why do we all look slightly different?", and "Why do we all have slightly different personalities?".

Saying "men are from Mars, and women are from Venus", is kind of a silly way to look at it. We're extremely similar.

Whatever makes them happy.

It's their choice and they'll have to live by it. 

As some one who has transgendered friends, that post was pretty difficult to real.

Gender is a social construct. Telling some one they are a girl or a boy won't suddenly make them change their behaviour, how they see themselves, or how the feel about themselves. If they need to change their body to match how they feel, I will certainly support them in it. It's not akin to assisting suicide. It's helping them make the most of life.

I'm really curious how someone can have "male" or "female" thoughts outside of attraction. Can someone explain how a guy determines if he was supposed to be a woman, and how it's different from simply being gay?Mcspanky37

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Because 1. It doesn't affect my life in any harmful way so I have no valid reason to be against it. 2. If it makes them happier then they should pursue that happiness.Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Treflis"]Because 1. It doesn't affect my life in any harmful way so I have no valid reason to be against it. 2. If it makes them happier then they should pursue that happiness.BuryMe

not sure why i should care to stop them

It definitely shouldn't be prohibited. But the OP is asking: should it be encouraged? Being a transexual is affixed with stigma and negative connotations by most. Even those who don't care either seem generally uncomfortable in the presence of a transexual. Furthermore, changing your sex is a lot of work and effort - should this desire be encouraged to be held above all other priorities in life?

Mcspanky37