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Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
[QUOTE="web966"]They are trying to "save" us or something.C_BozkurT_Csaving us for the benefit of all I guess :?
If you don't convert, then I KILL YOU!
saving us for the benefit of all I guess :?[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="web966"]They are trying to "save" us or something.SPESSMAHREEN
If you don't convert, then I KILL YOU!
see sig for answerWell, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
Ravirr
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
[QUOTE="SPESSMAHREEN"]saving us for the benefit of all I guess :?[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="web966"]They are trying to "save" us or something.C_BozkurT_C
If you don't convert, then I KILL YOU!
see sig for answerThe accumulated filth of all their sex and murder and politics will foam up about their waists and all the world will look up and shout, "Save us!",,,
... and I will look down and whisper, "No..."
[QUOTE="Ravirr"]Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
TheMadGamer
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
eh my numbers were off but its still the same.
You're asking for it, with your tight jeans and rock and roll music.
Really, in most variations of Christianity they are trying to follow the great commission, because they are told to.
[QUOTE="Ravirr"]Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
TheMadGamer
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
If some go to heaven and the other live in paradise forever...what's the difference?[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Ravirr"]Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
blackngold29
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
If some go to heaven and the other live in paradise forever...what's the difference?Well the difference is that those choosen to goto heaven will serve as kings and priests with Jesus for a thousand years and judge mankind, and they'll also be granted immortality. The great majority of people as I alreay said will live on Earth as subjects of this heavenly government.
[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Ravirr"]Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
TheMadGamer
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
If some go to heaven and the other live in paradise forever...what's the difference?Well the difference is that those choosen to goto heaven will serve as kings and priests with Jesus for a thousand years and judge mankind, and they'll also be granted immortality. The great majority of people as I alreay said will live on Earth as subjects of this heavenly government.
So everybody wins? It's either you're in charge or you're not, but there's no "hell" persay?Do you tell your friends about your favorite movie?
Do you make your friends listen to the new song by your favorite band?
Do you insist that someone try a food that you adore?
It's only natural for someone to get excited about something they believe in, or like. When that happens, all they want to do is share their enjoyment with someone else. I think the same can be said about religion, the only difference is, that it has to do with your eternity, so people are a lot quicker to get defensive about it. When truth is, I'm sure your friends talk about their religion the same as they talk about their favorite actor.
People talk about the things that are important to them.
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Ravirr"]Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
blackngold29
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
If some go to heaven and the other live in paradise forever...what's the difference?Well the difference is that those choosen to goto heaven will serve as kings and priests with Jesus for a thousand years and judge mankind, and they'll also be granted immortality. The great majority of people as I alreay said will live on Earth as subjects of this heavenly government.
So everybody wins? It's either you're in charge or you're not, but there's no "hell" persay?Yes everyone benefits... and there is no hell, thats not a scriptual teaching. If you have any other questions I'd be happy to try to answer the.
The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Ravirr"]Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
blackngold29
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
If some go to heaven and the other live in paradise forever...what's the difference?Well the difference is that those choosen to goto heaven will serve as kings and priests with Jesus for a thousand years and judge mankind, and they'll also be granted immortality. The great majority of people as I alreay said will live on Earth as subjects of this heavenly government.
So everybody wins? It's either you're in charge or you're not, but there's no "hell" persay?I think what he's trying to say is that for the Jehovah's witnesses, that's how it is. 144,000 out of all the Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven, and the other number of Jehovah's Witnesses will live in paradise.He may have already said that already, or I may be making no sense at all, but I'm a little bit under the influence right now, so I don't even know what I'm talking about.
[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Ravirr"]Well, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you have to spread the word and do good deeds to get one of the 11,000 spots in heaven. Mormons it brings you closer to God status. Christian believe that its the true way to heaven.
As a christian, I don't forcing is doing any good. Living as an example and understanding other people is the only way to work. But oh well.
needled24-7
Actually you're misinformed about Jehovah's Witnesses, we spread the goods news of the kingdom because it was a commandment from Jesus. Refer to Matthew 28: 18-20. And we believe that 144,000 will goto heaven and the rest (the great majority) will inherit the Earth and live in paradise forever.
If some go to heaven and the other live in paradise forever...what's the difference?Well the difference is that those choosen to goto heaven will serve as kings and priests with Jesus for a thousand years and judge mankind, and they'll also be granted immortality. The great majority of people as I alreay said will live on Earth as subjects of this heavenly government.
So everybody wins? It's either you're in charge or you're not, but there's no "hell" persay?I think what he's trying to say is that for the Jehovah's witnesses, that's how it is. 144,000 out of all the Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven, and the other number of Jehovah's Witnesses will live in paradise.He may have already said that already, or I may be making no sense at all, but I'm a little bit under the influence right now, so I don't even know what I'm talking about.
That's a pretty accurate summary, apart from the fact we don't believe that only Jehovah's Witnesses with live in paradise, but that will be the responsability of Jesus to choose who lives past Armageddon and into his millennial reign. Also during this time countless millions in the past who didn't hear the good news of the kingdom will be resurrected during Jesus' 1000 year reign. Satan will also be abyssed at this time and have no influence over mankind.
[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="SPESSMAHREEN"]saving us for the benefit of all I guess :?[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="web966"]They are trying to "save" us or something.SPESSMAHREEN
If you don't convert, then I KILL YOU!
see sig for answerThe accumulated filth of all their sex and murder and politics will foam up about their waists and all the world will look up and shout, "Save us!",,,
... and I will look down and whisper, "No..."
You made this thread worth reading, I applaud you good sir.
The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
smallcaplegend
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
[QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
Funky_Llama
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
TheMadGamer
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
well Dont JWs think that your blood is sacred and refuse to give or receive blood, so Im asking do you choose to receive/donate blood if your in an accident/give blood if your child needs it
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
TheMadGamer
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
There's some kind of idea that Jehovah's Witnesses believe they can't mix their blood with others or they'd be unpure.
So, if you're going to answer that, you might as well mention the garlic necklaces and what happens to your friends on the second full moon of every leap year.
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
smallcaplegend
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
well Dont JWs think that your blood is sacred and refuse to give or receive blood, so Im asking do you choose to receive/donate blood if your in an accident/give blood if your child needs it
Ohh boy, I don't know if I wanna fall into this loaded question. I can't speak for a child, conisdering I don't have one. But for myself I will not accept blood in any circumstances. I also get the feeling your trolling me.
[QUOTE="smallcaplegend"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
TheMadGamer
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
well Dont JWs think that your blood is sacred and refuse to give or receive blood, so Im asking do you choose to receive/donate blood if your in an accident/give blood if your child needs it
Ohh boy, I don't know if I wanna fall into this loaded question. I can't speak for a child, conisdering I don't have one. But for myself I will not accept blood in any circumstances. I also get the feeling your trolling me.
oh no, I just have some Q's, I used to go to Kingdom hall with my dad when I was younger and never really got to be clarified on there teaching. Its cool if you dont want to fall in this question. There is just know K halls in my town
[QUOTE="smallcaplegend"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
TheMadGamer
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
well Dont JWs think that your blood is sacred and refuse to give or receive blood, so Im asking do you choose to receive/donate blood if your in an accident/give blood if your child needs it
Ohh boy, I don't know if I wanna fall into this loaded question. I can't speak for a child, conisdering I don't have one. But for myself I will not accept blood in any circumstances. I also get the feeling your trolling me.
I think it's a reasonable question, because it's relevent to 'pushing it into others' because JWs let their children die if they need a blood transfusion. That's why I think it's one of the most dangerous branches of Christianity: it can be fatal.
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
Funky_Llama
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
well Dont JWs think that your blood is sacred and refuse to give or receive blood, so Im asking do you choose to receive/donate blood if your in an accident/give blood if your child needs it
Ohh boy, I don't know if I wanna fall into this loaded question. I can't speak for a child, conisdering I don't have one. But for myself I will not accept blood in any circumstances. I also get the feeling your trolling me.
I think it's a reasonable question, because it's relevent to 'pushing it into others' because JWs let their children die if they need a blood transfusion. That's why I think it's one of the most dangerous branches of Christianity: it can be fatal.
If I hid a nickel for everytime someone said that we let our children die, I'd be a millionaire. Simply fact is we don't let them die, but look to a vast plethora of alternative treatments which are in many cases are better than blood transfusions.
[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"]The 11th Commandment: "Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself."
5 internet bucks for whoever knows who says that.zepman71
George Carlin
Now where's my 5 bucks?
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
TheMadGamer
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
well Dont JWs think that your blood is sacred and refuse to give or receive blood, so Im asking do you choose to receive/donate blood if your in an accident/give blood if your child needs it
Ohh boy, I don't know if I wanna fall into this loaded question. I can't speak for a child, conisdering I don't have one. But for myself I will not accept blood in any circumstances. I also get the feeling your trolling me.
I think it's a reasonable question, because it's relevent to 'pushing it into others' because JWs let their children die if they need a blood transfusion. That's why I think it's one of the most dangerous branches of Christianity: it can be fatal.
If I hid a nickel for everytime someone said that we let our children die, I'd be a millionaire. Simply fact is we don't let them die, but look to a vast plethora of alternative treatments which are in many cases are better than blood transfusions.
What a weak counterargument! Sometimes a blood transfusion is the only available treatment, for example if a child is in an accident and loses a lot of blood, sometimes a blood transfusion is required to keep them alive. And when that's the case, you let them die.
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]The Mad GAmer, I have a question for you, are you a Jehovah witness? If yes, do you tell the doctor or someone to tell the EMT to give you artificial blood?
Funky_Llama
Heh... I don't think he wants to answer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer that question.. what is artifical blood?
well Dont JWs think that your blood is sacred and refuse to give or receive blood, so Im asking do you choose to receive/donate blood if your in an accident/give blood if your child needs it
Ohh boy, I don't know if I wanna fall into this loaded question. I can't speak for a child, conisdering I don't have one. But for myself I will not accept blood in any circumstances. I also get the feeling your trolling me.
I think it's a reasonable question, because it's relevent to 'pushing it into others' because JWs let their children die if they need a blood transfusion. That's why I think it's one of the most dangerous branches of Christianity: it can be fatal.
If I hid a nickel for everytime someone said that we let our children die, I'd be a millionaire. Simply fact is we don't let them die, but look to a vast plethora of alternative treatments which are in many cases are better than blood transfusions.
What a weak counterargument! Sometimes a blood transfusion is the only available treatment, for example if a child is in an accident and loses a lot of blood, sometimes a blood transfusion is required to keep them alive. And when that's the case, you let them die.
I agree with Funky, what are these many treatments that are better than a blood transfusion? I'm pretty sure if there was such a "vast" amount of alternatives there wouldn't be such a shortage for blood would there? We'd just use these alternatives ;).
Not meaning to troll or anything, I was actualy starting to warm up to the idea of your no heaven or hell thing, and that everyone can have a slice of the cake when they get ressurected till I read that crap about the blood transfusions.
I don't give a damn that there are "alternative treatments" alot of the time a blood transfusion will be the only way, hence there is such a shortage of blood because without it people will die. So the fact is, if you refuse your child to have blood given to it, after forcing your own religion onto the child (often a child will be brought up religious to a teenage age then either continue or dump it, you almost never see a teenager convert to a faith), you're as good a reason as why they're dead.
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