Why do so many humans seem to dislike their own species?

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#1 Head_of_games
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Honestly, it seems I can't go a day without encountering someone(in real life or the internet) who thinks that humans are "ruining nature". From what I've seen, it looks like there's quite a few people who would prefer it if we were back in the stone age. They say that we are destroying earth, but aren't humans part of earth? I don't see lions putting a restriction on the number of zebras they eat so that the zebras are happy. They just do whatever they want. And since most of hippies are evolutionists(No, I am not here to debate about that subject), then why shouldn't they believe in "survival of the fittest"? Humans are the fittest, so they are free to survive however the heck they want. I mean, it's reasonable to try and preserve natureso that our own food sources don't run out, but besides that why should we give a darn about other species? *Passes out bags of popcorn*

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#2 Engrish_Major
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Survival of the fittest no longer applies to humans. Just because we can kill something doesn't mean that we should.
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#4 Head_of_games
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Survival of the fittest no longer applies to humans. Just because we can kill something doesn't mean that we should.Engrish_Major
Well why shouldn't it? I believe we're going by the assumption that humans are animals, right?
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#5 Engrish_Major
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Well why shouldn't it? I believe we're going by the assumption that humans are animals, right?Head_of_games
Animals don't kill things for fun. Animals generally do not discourage biodiversity by destroying entire habitats of dozens or hundreds of species. Biologically, we are animals, but behaviorally, we are separate.
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#6 RationalAtheist
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Religious conditioning (the notion that we are all born sinful) might have something to do with it.

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#7 clubsammich91
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It's called misanthropy by the way.

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#8 Riverwolf007
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yeah i'm pretty much just counting the days until i can eat my neighbors

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Survival of the fittest no longer applies to humans. Just because we can kill something doesn't mean that we should.Head_of_games
Well why shouldn't it? I believe we're going by the assumption that humans are animals, right?

Technology gives us the ability to adapt the environment to our needs, rather than the other way around, which is a principal source of evolutionary pressure.
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Survival of the fittest no longer applies to humans. Just because we can kill something doesn't mean that we should.Engrish_Major

Its also stated in the 10 Commandments. Thou shall not kill.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Survival of the fittest no longer applies to humans. Just because we can kill something doesn't mean that we should.nVidiaGaMer

Its also stated in the 10 Commandments. Thou shall not kill.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Survival of the fittest no longer applies to humans. Just because we can kill something doesn't mean that we should.Head_of_games
Well why shouldn't it? I believe we're going by the assumption that humans are animals, right?

Because we are aware of the balance of nature.. If we wiped out a important link such as the bee.. The major polinator.. We may go extinct.
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Lions might not put a restriction on how many zebras, but they only eat when hungry. There aren't nearly as many lions as there are humans either. Human population has surpassed what can be supported by the earth. Humanity should try to seek a balance with nature. Not necessarily living in the stone age, but thinking about actions we perform. Instead of just tossing wrappers out of the car window, put them in the garbage. Landfills aren't the best solution, but they're better than loose wrappers flying across the road and into the forest.
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Lions might not put a restriction on how many zebras, but they only eat when hungry. There aren't nearly as many lions as there are humans either. Human population has surpassed what can be supported by the earth. Humanity should try to seek a balance with nature. Not necessarily living in the stone age, but thinking about actions we perform. Instead of just tossing wrappers out of the car window, put them in the garbage. Landfills aren't the best solution, but they're better than loose wrappers flying across the road and into the forest.muthsera666
... That isn't true alot of spieces including cats will eat till they are sick throw up some and eat more.
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... That isn't true alot of spieces including cats will eat till they are sick throw up some and eat more.sSubZerOo
A lot of domestic animals will do that, but you could argue that "survival of the fittest" doesn't apply to domesticated animals either.
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I actually believe that what we are doing is using up our planets resources. Really though, I'm not to worries since eventually, the move 'The Day After Tommorrow' will really happen and those resources will pretty much reset themselves.

I do however hate humans because even though they can do a lot of good, they always choose not to. And that's not towards enviromental issues, that's towards each other. The human race is really self-destructive and will kill itself long before the earth resources die out at the rate we're at.

And we're no longer a part of that food chain (unless we enter it by going into a forest or something) so servival of the fitest doesn't apply to us. If that was true, we would all be under a monarchy right now since someone somewhere in our history would have simply gone around and killed everyone that was in his way of getting to the top and no one would stop him/her. In nature, the survival of the fitest pertains to the one that can adapt the best and we already can do that better then any other creature on earth but we do it through technology rather then evolution. And humans no longer think that way because first off; we don't kill other creatures ourselves to eat, other people do that for us, and second; we don't need to be using all the resources as quickly as we are when there are several alternatives we can explore.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] ... That isn't true alot of spieces including cats will eat till they are sick throw up some and eat more.Engrish_Major
A lot of domestic animals will do that, but you could argue that "survival of the fittest" doesn't apply to domesticated animals either.

Not talking about domesticated animals though.. When I ment "cats" I ment the sub spieces of mammels.. Alligators and Crocadiles have been known to do this as well.
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There are too many humans on this planet. And almost all of them have a negative effect on it. The fact that we're the most intelligent species doesn't excuse or justify that.
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"]Lions might not put a restriction on how many zebras, but they only eat when hungry. There aren't nearly as many lions as there are humans either. Human population has surpassed what can be supported by the earth. Humanity should try to seek a balance with nature. Not necessarily living in the stone age, but thinking about actions we perform. Instead of just tossing wrappers out of the car window, put them in the garbage. Landfills aren't the best solution, but they're better than loose wrappers flying across the road and into the forest.sSubZerOo
... That isn't true alot of spieces including cats will eat till they are sick throw up some and eat more.

Some do, but not all. It would have to a very large portion of the feline population to match human habits.
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There are too many humans on this planet. And almost all of them have a negative effect on it. The fact that we're the most intelligent species doesn't excuse or justify that.Bourbons3
But why should we care beyond what will significantly affect us? Humans first priority should be looking out for humans. Screw the dolphins, we can get by without them.
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Animals don't kill things for fun. Animals generally do not discourage biodiversity by destroying entire habitats of dozens or hundreds of species. Biologically, we are animals, but behaviorally, we are separate.Engrish_Major
Some animals do actually. I too would argue that humans are one of them. I don't like people for the sole reason that the majority is comprised not only of sheep, but of the stupidest and most stubborn ones. They control everything. The government (by election), community, culture, religion, etc. and determine what is and what is not acceptable. Even when something makes sense or doesn't affect them in any way, they let their misplaced convictions and "morals" boil over, directly intruding on the lives of others. This makes someone else' life miserable, which leads to a reactionary movement and naturally causes conflict. I don't see how it's so difficult to just live with the fact some people do not share your viewpoint on such issues.
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#22 MgamerBD
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[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

Religious conditioning (the notion that we are all born sinful) might have something to do with it.

no....no im sure a person does not need religion to think that way :?
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#23 adv_tr00per
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humans can't be considered part of nature anymore, we do so much unnatural stuff it's not even funny.

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When other animals start poisoning the air with sulphur and other gasses (co2 is not bad, but other gasses we put off from factories are). Or start poisoning the water with mercury and other heavy metals, then I will start hating those animals. But so far, we are the only animals who are poisoning the very air and water we need to live, it may not be so bad that it will kill us right away, but it will catch up with us eventually.

I dont think we should live in the stone age, I just know its possible to keep our current level of technology, and mostly the same life style, without polluting the planet. I also think most people could have better life styles if the rich few were less greedy. We do also have the ability to feed everyone on this planet now in a sustainable way, so I'm not beleiving anyone who thinks the planet is over populated, its just that the regional populations are out of balance. Too many people are in africa and asia, where they dont have the ability to feed themselves.

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#25 AlphaRail
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I hate most of the human species(I have met)...if people were stranded on an island together with no civilization/society I am sure they would start killing each other except a few...I also just hate how stupid some people are, they don't try to gain self knowledge and just sound like ignorant idiots while getting spoon fed throughout their life..from their parents..then school...then the media...
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#26 metroidfood
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What's an evolutionist? Is it like a gravitationist?

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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]There are too many humans on this planet. And almost all of them have a negative effect on it. The fact that we're the most intelligent species doesn't excuse or justify that.Head_of_games
But why should we care beyond what will significantly affect us? Humans first priority should be looking out for humans. Screw the dolphins, we can get by without them.

No we can't.. Knock too many pieces of the natural order, and you see a ecosystem collapse causing extinction which may include us.. Take Bees for instance.. THey are tremendously important, we depend off of them for the polination of the plants.
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#28 Murj
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It's too easy to take out your anger on the dog or cat. Sometimes you want to hate something that will hate you back. Nothing solves anger like a good same-species argument and fist fight if you ask me.