Why do states in America want to abolish the death penalty?

I think if someone kills someone elsem and there is enough evidence to prove them guilty, they should be killed. Why dont the rest of the states agree?

the problem is when you find evidence after they have been killed that proves them innocent...and yeah that do happen

I am not against the Death Penalty. However, we must make sure to save it only for the most extreme cases. The fear is that it will eventually become a common punishment. At times, it has(Texas would strap you to the chair for a parking ticket 20 years ago), but in general we do a good job of not over using it.

because they either wanna think theyre so awesome fighting for the rights of the filthy undeserving living pieces of waste in jail or are just plain dumb...

seriously, if it were for me i would kill every serious criminal, hell most of them live waaay better in jail than when they were free, they get food, a bed, THEY EVEN GET SAFETY for heavens sake thats just the dumbest thing ever, yeah i would kill all of them even if they were my parents, i dont care we dont need filthy rats in society

and obviously investigations should be deeper so theyre 100% accurate and you dont kill innocent dudes

i am for the death penalty.

maybe it would be a deterrent if people actually got executed.

as of january 1st of this year, 3,297 people were on death row. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year

but only 37 people were executed in 2008 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/past/17/2008

that's like 1%. if only 1% of the people on death row get executed, that's no deterrent. execute the freakin people!

the problem is when you find evidence after they have been killed that proves them innocent...and yeah that do happen

Darnulin

because they either wanna think theyre so awesome fighting for the rights of the filthy undeserving living pieces of waste in jail or are just plain dumb...

seriously, if it were for me i would kill every serious criminal, hell most of them live waaay better in jail than when they were free, they get food, a bed, THEY EVEN GET SAFETY for heavens sake thats just the dumbest thing ever, yeah i would kill all of them even if they were my parents, i dont care we dont need filthy rats in society

and obviously investigations should be deeper so theyre 100% accurate and you dont kill innocent dudes

8-Bitterness

"He might have killed 30 babies, raped 40 women and children, and burned down 5 houses, but he can change" seriously, thats what they make me think of

Google is a great place to start.supa_badman

It is a sticky issue. In general, I'm opposed to the idea of the death penalty because I think human life is valuable... but then you get cases like this guy in my state who kidnapped two children, raped them both and murdered one of them after days of captivity. I can't think of a single reason why someone like that should be allowed to live. I don't think it is a punishment that should be outlawed, but I'm glad it is a punishment we use sparingly.

[QUOTE="Darnulin"]

the problem is when you find evidence after they have been killed that proves them innocent...and yeah that do happen

needled24-7

For the danger of killing an innocent person, I just don't think death penalty is a good idea. And besides, an eye for an eye judgement shouldn't be the standard. Rotting away in prison for the rest of your life is also enough of a deterrent.

I heard in new york, you can only get it if you kill a cop. But why? Because cops are more defenseless than babies.

It is cheaper to put folks several in jail for life.duxup

I am not against the Death Penalty. However, we must make sure to save it only for the most extreme cases. The fear is that it will eventually become a common punishment. At times, it has(Texas would strap you to the chair for a parking ticket 20 years ago), but in general we do a good job of not over using it.

heysharpshooter

Please tell me you're kidding.

Prison is a big industry and if all the workers get killed they make less revenue. Damn near every issue boils down to the almighty dollar in a capitalist society. Everyone has their false front, and veiled agendas when it comes to capitalist business.

It is cheaper to put folks several in jail for life.duxup

Firing squad=cheap.

actually, its the endless appeals system that makes it so expensive.

The death penalty doesn't prevent crime, it costs more than life imprisonment, serves as a less effective punishment than life imprisonment, and sometimes ends up in the death of an innocent person.Bourbons3

It wouldn't cost as much if the con wasn't kept alive for so long before the execution.

The death penalty doesn't prevent crime, it costs more than life imprisonment, serves as a less effective punishment than life imprisonment, and sometimes ends up in the death of an innocent person.Bourbons3

perhaps. but that's because only 1% of people on death row are actually executed each year. up the percentage and maybe it will detter crime, maybe it won't, but won't know until you try.

"it costs more than life imprisonment"

that's true, but that's because of all the appeals that the death row inmates go through. many times, they only appeal so they can avoid being executed. they know they're ****ed, they just want to stay alive longer.

"serves as a less effective punishment than life imprisonment"

i don't believe this can really be debated

"sometimes ends up in the death of an innocent person"

this is true, but there are cases where the evidence is pretty much undeniable, you know the ones i'm talking about. kill those guys, not the ones where it's questionable.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

I am not against the Death Penalty. However, we must make sure to save it only for the most extreme cases. The fear is that it will eventually become a common punishment. At times, it has(Texas would strap you to the chair for a parking ticket 20 years ago), but in general we do a good job of not over using it.

gamerguru100

Please tell me you're kidding.

Its a joke man, relax. You have to admit, Texas is pretty liberal with the chair.

[QUOTE="duxup"]It is cheaper to put folks several in jail for life.Vandalvideo

It is cheaper to put folks several in jail for life.duxup

Exactly.

I've yet to see any pragmatic reasoning for the death penality.

We need to be more like Texas. Texas is awesome. This is fact.

I'll support it when it's cheaper. My hunger for vengeance does not exceed 7 appeals.

Because some people don't agree that an "eye for an eye" is a good way to govern?

I think if someone kills someone elsem and there is enough evidence to prove them guilty, they should be killed. Why dont the rest of the states agree?

megahaloman64

Because some people don't agree that an "eye for an eye" is a good way to govern?

foxhound_fox

We need to be more like Texas. Texas is awesome. This is fact.

dann14v

Hank Hill agrees

i am for the death penalty.

maybe it would be a deterrent if people actually got executed.

as of january 1st of this year, 3,297 people were on death row. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year

but only 37 people were executed in 2008 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/past/17/2008

that's like 1%. if only 1% of the people on death row get executed, that's no deterrent. execute the freakin people!

needled24-7

I am sure thats not right. TEXAS alone probably executed more than that...

edit: You were right. I just checked; Texas had half the total though ( 18 ). I thought they would have more than that (and that the rest of the country wasn't so low).

Capital punishment is a very expensive process. It's much cheaper to just toss them in jail for life. Besides, it doesn't actually deter the crimes. People still commit murders and rapes regardless of the threat of death. On a personal note, I don't think we should stoop down to their level.krazykillaz

Is killing a rapist/murder the same as killing an inocent women or child?

I think if someone kills someone elsem and there is enough evidence to prove them guilty, they should be killed. Why dont the rest of the states agree?

megahaloman64

[QUOTE="krazykillaz"]Capital punishment is a very expensive process. It's much cheaper to just toss them in jail for life. Besides, it doesn't actually deter the crimes. People still commit murders and rapes regardless of the threat of death. On a personal note, I don't think we should stoop down to their level.megahaloman64

Is killing a rapist/murder the same as killing an inocent women or child?

I was against it, but now all of a sudden I feel like those kids who are always angry and vengeful.

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

I think if someone kills someone elsem and there is enough evidence to prove them guilty, they should be killed. Why dont the rest of the states agree?

EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="krazykillaz"]Capital punishment is a very expensive process. It's much cheaper to just toss them in jail for life. Besides, it doesn't actually deter the crimes. People still commit murders and rapes regardless of the threat of death. On a personal note, I don't think we should stoop down to their level.megahaloman64

Is killing a rapist/murder the same as killing an inocent women or child?

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

i am for the death penalty.

maybe it would be a deterrent if people actually got executed.

as of january 1st of this year, 3,297 people were on death row. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year

but only 37 people were executed in 2008 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/past/17/2008

that's like 1%. if only 1% of the people on death row get executed, that's no deterrent. execute the freakin people!

TBoogy

I am sure thats not right. TEXAS alone probably executed more than that...

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

I think if someone kills someone elsem and there is enough evidence to prove them guilty, they should be killed. Why dont the rest of the states agree?

EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="krazykillaz"]Capital punishment is a very expensive process. It's much cheaper to just toss them in jail for life. Besides, it doesn't actually deter the crimes. People still commit murders and rapes regardless of the threat of death. On a personal note, I don't think we should stoop down to their level.megahaloman64

Is killing a rapist/murder the same as killing an inocent women or child?

[QUOTE="duxup"]It is cheaper to put folks several in jail for life.Vandalvideo

I think if someone kills someone elsem and there is enough evidence to prove them guilty, they should be killed. Why dont the rest of the states agree?

[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

i am for the death penalty.

maybe it would be a deterrent if people actually got executed.

as of january 1st of this year, 3,297 people were on death row. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year

but only 37 people were executed in 2008 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/past/17/2008

that's like 1%. if only 1% of the people on death row get executed, that's no deterrent. execute the freakin people!

needled24-7

I am sure thats not right. TEXAS alone probably executed more than that...

Yeah, I already edited. I tend to research before I post. Didnt this time. ;)

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

[QUOTE="krazykillaz"]Capital punishment is a very expensive process. It's much cheaper to just toss them in jail for life. Besides, it doesn't actually deter the crimes. People still commit murders and rapes regardless of the threat of death. On a personal note, I don't think we should stoop down to their level.lightleggy

Is killing a rapist/murder the same as killing an inocent women or child?

we're killing a person who deserves it.

Indeed. If a person commits a murder, that's a crime so horrible and unjust that the only just way to solve that is to murder them.

[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"]

because they either wanna think theyre so awesome fighting for the rights of the filthy undeserving living pieces of waste in jail or are just plain dumb...

seriously, if it were for me i would kill every serious criminal, hell most of them live waaay better in jail than when they were free, they get food, a bed, THEY EVEN GET SAFETY for heavens sake thats just the dumbest thing ever, yeah i would kill all of them even if they were my parents, i dont care we dont need filthy rats in society

and obviously investigations should be deeper so theyre 100% accurate and you dont kill innocent dudes

megahaloman64

"He might have killed 30 babies, raped 40 women and children, and burned down 5 houses, but he can change" seriously, thats what they make me think of

Indeed. If a person commits a murder, that's a crime so horrible and unjust that the only just way to solve that is to murder them.

MetroidPrimePwn

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

Is killing a rapist/murder the same as killing an inocent women or child?

megahaloman64

we're killing a person who deserves it.