why do you give to the poor and needy

it seems to me that the poor are happy with their free offerings from the local church but i want to know why help the poor.:)

Because the government doesn't give me a choice.

The scripture says, 'blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy'. I'm all for voluntary charity.

Uhm....Because they're Poor and Needy? :P

Because the government doesn't give me a choice.

Atmanix

Lol. It would be nice if the government gave us a choice. I would still donate to some charities I believe in, though.

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Because the government doesn't give me a choice.

airshocker

Lol. It would be nice if the government gave us a choice. I would still donate to some charities I believe in, though.

Right, I should have elaborated. I didn't mean to sound like a cold-hearted jerk. I donate to charity voluntarily, I just don't enjoy having it ripped out of my paycheck.

it seems to me that the poor are happy with their free offerings from the local church but i want to know why help the poor.:)

princecaspian38

omg whatever pals whatever lol:)

Right, I should have elaborated. I didn't mean to sound like a cold-hearted jerk. I donate to charity voluntarily, I just don't enjoy having it ripped out of my paycheck.

Atmanix

I wasn't calling you one. I happen to whole-heartedly agree with you.

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Because the government doesn't give me a choice.

Atmanix

Lol. It would be nice if the government gave us a choice. I would still donate to some charities I believe in, though.

Right, I should have elaborated. I didn't mean to sound like a cold-hearted jerk. I donate to charity voluntarily, I just don't enjoy having it ripped out of my paycheck.

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Because the government doesn't give me a choice.

Atmanix

Lol. It would be nice if the government gave us a choice. I would still donate to some charities I believe in, though.

Right, I should have elaborated. I didn't mean to sound like a cold-hearted jerk. I donate to charity voluntarily, I just don't enjoy having it ripped out of my paycheck.

You aren't under the impression that the bulk of your tax revenues are going to benefit the poor, are you?xaos

In many ways they are.

Universal healthcare, for one.

If someone is presented in front of me in my day to day activity that I have the opportunity to help, I'll usually try and do whatever I can for them.

it seems to me that the poor are happy with their free offerings from the local church but i want to know why help the poor.:)

princecaspian38

I don't help the poor and needy.

[QUOTE="xaos"]You aren't under the impression that the bulk of your tax revenues are going to benefit the poor, are you?airshocker

In many ways they are.

Universal healthcare, for one.

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Lol. It would be nice if the government gave us a choice. I would still donate to some charities I believe in, though.

aransom

Right, I should have elaborated. I didn't mean to sound like a cold-hearted jerk. I donate to charity voluntarily, I just don't enjoy having it ripped out of my paycheck.

oh you do will you now cheers and jeers.::)

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Lol. It would be nice if the government gave us a choice. I would still donate to some charities I believe in, though.

aransom

Right, I should have elaborated. I didn't mean to sound like a cold-hearted jerk. I donate to charity voluntarily, I just don't enjoy having it ripped out of my paycheck.

We don't have universal healthcare, though healthcare is a factor, nearly as large as defensexaos

We will.

Are you happier with welfare being an example?

Funny thing is, that is only avaliable to poor, which is not really universal in the end.magicalclick

Well, that's not true. Those who choose not to have healthcare will be forced to buy it.

i have exactly $ 21 in my wallet.8)

I give it to them because I have a conscience and I'm a sucker for doing good deeds. >_>

Well, I think we are forced to pay tax for it, but, that doesn't mean I am elegeable to apply it. If I am not rejected or able to pay the private insurance, I can't apply to the government one anyway. Meaning, I want to apply the government one, but, they don't let me because I have enough money for private one. Hence, the fake universal healthcare.magicalclick

No. In the current bill, IIRC, you will be forced to buy insurance. It doesn't matter that you aren't eligible. The government is forcing the insurance companies to accept you. If you still don't buy it, you'll be fined.

Because the situation they're in completely sucks.

Everybody needs help at times.

[QUOTE="xaos"]We don't have universal healthcare, though healthcare is a factor, nearly as large as defenseairshocker

We will.

Are you happier with welfare being an example?

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]Well, I think we are forced to pay tax for it, but, that doesn't mean I am elegeable to apply it. If I am not rejected or able to pay the private insurance, I can't apply to the government one anyway. Meaning, I want to apply the government one, but, they don't let me because I have enough money for private one. Hence, the fake universal healthcare.airshocker

No. In the current bill, IIRC, you will be forced to buy insurance. It doesn't matter that you aren't eligible. The government is forcing the insurance companies to accept you. If you still don't buy it, you'll be fined.

So basically, the same thing as a single-payer system except we have a whole industry sitting between us and our docs who have to make THEIR profit?

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]Well, I think we are forced to pay tax for it, but, that doesn't mean I am elegeable to apply it. If I am not rejected or able to pay the private insurance, I can't apply to the government one anyway. Meaning, I want to apply the government one, but, they don't let me because I have enough money for private one. Hence, the fake universal healthcare.airshocker

No. In the current bill, IIRC, you will be forced to buy insurance. It doesn't matter that you aren't eligible. The government is forcing the insurance companies to accept you. If you still don't buy it, you'll be fined.

i am to do what i do best and that,s feed and clothe the middleclass sorry bbye bye george.:D

There is no current bill, hence the current Presidential/Congressional "healthcare summit"xaos

They were debating over 2400 pages of nothing, then?

That is the bill they were discussing trying to squeeze in during reconciliation.

Not really, given the relatively minute amount of the budget that welfare represents. I can understand the moral offense at the abuses of the system, but as a purely practical matter, it's not responsible for much of the actual cost to taxpayers.xaos

Sorry, I'm not going to tick off every example for you. The fact is, the government takes enough money away from me in taxes, so I should be all set for not having to give away anymore of my hard-earned money.

government is forcing the insurance companies to accept me "at what price"? Surely I don't get the same price as the poor, so.....................magicalclick

You're going to have to elaborate on what you mean. I would assume since you have a precondition that makes you ineligible that you would be more expensive than an average poor person.

i have an old gba and gba games plus gboand gamepacks and now that i said that ialso have 6 harry potter movies 3 vhs 3 dvd,s and 4 harry potter books. :)

So basically, the same thing as a single-payer system except we have a whole industry sitting between us and our docs who have to make THEIR profit?br0kenrabbit

That's how it's been since this whole debate on healthcare started.

Nope, the precondition is only because I can pay more, nothing else. The bill only ensure enrollment, but, not price. And if I can't prove I can't afford it, the government is not going to help me negoaciate with the company.magicalclick

We've been talking about two different things, then.

gamespot is my best friends i guess i over said my feelings and i admit without this country i would also be poor and needy. i really like my healthcare benefits and and ss.:)