i dont know why but me i dont hate canadians
why does canadian hates quebecois so much
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I'm a quebecois too, and I have to say that while that's quite a generalization, it holds true to a certain extent.
It's hard to blame them really, we can be annoying sometimes. We're always voting for the exact opposite of the rest of Canada, sometimes it seems just for the heck of it. We keep yapping about our independence, but the majority voted "no" in the two referendums. I've heard many canadians outside Quebec say that we should just get separated once and for all just so they won't have to deal with our BS anymore.
Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals? That's what I would like know.
I feel bad for them.
The Quebecois pretty much bring the hate upon themselves imo. From my experience, I like them a lot.
Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals?
supa_badman
I don't hate them, but we pay taxes so they can get free everything and all most of them do is wreck it all and get more free stuff... not to mention the amount of drinking and drugs involved in the reserves.
I'm a quebecois too, and I have to say that while that's quite a generalization, it holds true to a certain extent.
It's hard to blame them really, we can be annoying sometimes. We're always voting for the exact opposite of the rest of Canada, sometimes it seems just for the heck of it. We keep yapping about our independence, but the majority voted "no" in the two referendums. I've heard many canadians outside Quebec say that we should just get separated once and for all just so they won't have to deal with our BS anymore.viva_hate
That's the point; not even the majority of Quebecois would like to be seperated from Canada (especially in Montreal) and current nationalist sentiment in Quebec is probably at one of its lowest point in history, but those generalizations still persist.
[QUOTE="supa_badman"]Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals?
RobboElRobbo
I don't hate them, but we pay taxes so they can get free everything and all most of them do is wreck it all and get more free stuff... not to mention the amount of drinking and drugs involved in the reserves.
To be fair though, what we're occupying was actually their land and the current issues they have can somehow be traced back to colonization and the inability to adapt to newly imposed cultures (I wrote a paper on this). Also, pushing the Inuit to the north also means that the goods that they get are rediculously expensive compared to what we get in the south.
I would say that Canadians don't hate Quebec and those from Quebec but there certainly is a degree of anger being dircected towards those that want Quebec to leave Canada. Canada has existed for a long time and the aspect of Quebecois culture as well as the french language has shaped the identity of the country. The easiest way to see this is in the fact that everything you buy here has English and French on it even though French is only spoken in a few small areas outside of Quebec. I don't speak French yet when I moved home from the UK I found it oddly comforting to see Fench on everything I buy because it meant I was home.
The idea of Quebec leaving a country that the bulk of it's citizens think highly of comes across as an insult to many. To add to that it's an insult that has come up again and again throughout Canadian history. The pull towards Quebec's independence is both unnecessary and would damage both Canada and Quebec in many ways were it to ever actually happen.
I love my country and since Quebec is part of my country I certainly don't hate the Quebecois. You are a unique part of Canada's identity.
It's not Canadians the hate Quebec. It's Quebec, or at least some of them, that hate being Canadian. There have been referendums, you aren't allowed to post english signs in the province even though the Quebec government demands that the 2010 Olympics as well as everything else Canadian has french prominentally displayed, etc... I know why they doi this, it's to protect their heritiage or their culture but it just gets tiring after awhile. Don't take this the wrong way like they did in the last thread, I like Quebec.
This. Few people actually "hate" them, but they benefit so much from the rest of us, the government bends over to suit their requests, and they still complain.I would say that Canadians don't hate Quebec and those from Quebec but there certainly is a degree of anger being dircected towards those that want Quebec to leave Canada. Canada has existed for a long time and the aspect of Quebecois culture as well as the french language has shaped the identity of the country. The easiest way to see this is in the fact that everything you buy here has English and French on it even though French is only spoken in a few small areas outside of Quebec. I don't speak French yet when I moved home from the UK I found it oddly comforting to see Fench on everything I buy because it meant I was home.
The idea of Quebec leaving a country that the bulk of it's citizens think highly of comes across as an insult to many. To add to that it's an insult that has come up again and again throughout Canadian history. The pull towards Quebec's independence is both unnecessary and would damage both Canada and Quebec in many ways were it to ever actually happen.
I love my country and since Quebec is part of my country I certainly don't hate the Quebecois. You are a unique part of Canada's identity.
dark_orb
[QUOTE="supa_badman"]Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals?
RobboElRobbo
I don't hate them, but we pay taxes so they can get free everything and all most of them do is wreck it all and get more free stuff... not to mention the amount of drinking and drugs involved in the reserves.
Yeah, but despite that, the quality of the reserve is horrendous. And all the things they get 'free' is done half-assed by the government, as well as their ceremonies are really frowned upon in order for them to 'assimilate'. From what I see, the poor quality of their lives are because of the government.EDIT: I care because I'm Canadian. :P
I don't hate Quebecois, because they're Canadians. I only feel, at most, iffy about them when they claim they aren't Canadian, only Quebecois, which is rather absurd.i dont know why but me i dont hate canadians
quebec946
I think a lot of people don't hate Aboriginals, they just don't fully understand them, which brings tension. What many non-aboriginals see, is that aboriginals "get tax breaks and free housing and education" in the words of my dad, which is...somewhat true. They're often mistreated by their own people which just brings about a lot of crap in their communities, unfortunately, which never gets into the press, ever. Most news that non-aboriginals see about them is usually about the First Nations group making demands, or with protesters blockading certain areas, which leaves a bad taste in people's mouths fairly often.Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals? That's what I would like know.
I feel bad for them.
The Quebecois pretty much bring the hate upon themselves imo. From my experience, I like them a lot.
supa_badman
[QUOTE="supa_badman"]Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals?
RobboElRobbo
I don't hate them, but we pay taxes so they can get free everything and all most of them do is wreck it all and get more free stuff... not to mention the amount of drinking and drugs involved in the reserves.
As an Aboriginal, I would like to ask you some questions.
Do you think we don't pay taxes? Because we do. The only time we don't is if we work on 'Rez'. Those jobs are slim pickings.
To what free stuff are you referring? I haven't received any free stuff from anyone. We have free health care, just like you, I had to pay my way to University, just like you.
You do understand that there are more than one type of Indian don't you? My people have not signed a Treaty with the 'man' so we don't get a big check when we turn 18, like some tribes I have seen.
Why is it you think we drink? Because we contracted the disease when North America was "civilized". Also, if your people were forced to give up their art, culture and way of life because it was against the way of the church, wouldn't you reach for a drink? If you have ever had an addiction, you will know what it is like to try and be free of it.
Before you make wild generalizations, I suggest you do some research.
I may get modded for this, but it needed to be said.
We pay taxes to pay for many of their needs. I don't hate them (I have many First Nations friends), but we really could use them working and paying taxes like the rest of us. Also, not all of them drink, do drugs and smoke on their reserves all the time. I know many First Nation's who do that, but I also know many First Nations who work, it's no different with caucasians, we have our drug and alcohol addicted welfare people too. It also depends on the tribe.Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals? That's what I would like know.
I feel bad for them.
The Quebecois pretty much bring the hate upon themselves imo. From my experience, I like them a lot.
supa_badman
If you get modded, Gamespot would be acting very unfair. Noone should like their race being generalized as drug addicted, alcoholic free loaders. You have a right, and an obligation if I might add, to stand up for yourself and beliefs.As an Aboriginal, I would like to ask you some questions.
Do you think we don't pay taxes? Because we do. The only time we don't is if we work on 'Rez'. Those jobs are slim pickings.
To what free stuff are you referring? I haven't received any free stuff from anyone. We have free health care, just like you, I had to pay my way to University, just like you.
You do understand that there are more than one type of Indian don't you? My people have not signed a Treaty with the 'man' so we don't get a big check when we turn 18, like some tribes I have seen.
Why is it you think we drink? Because we contracted the disease when North America was "civilized". Also, if your people were forced to give up their art, culture and way of life because it was against the way of the church, wouldn't you reach for a drink? If you have ever had an addiction, you will know what it is like to try and be free of it.
Before you make wild generalizations, I suggest you do some research.
I may get modded for this, but it needed to be said.
Namgis
We pay taxes to pay for many of their needs. I don't hate them (I have many First Nations friends), but we really could use them working and paying taxes like the rest of us. Also, not all of them drink, do drugs and smoke on their reserves all the time. I know many First Nation's who do that, but I also know many First Nations who work, it's no different with caucasians, we have our drug and alcohol addicted welfare people too. It also depends on the tribe. Why does no one who commented on this post not read my next one? lol :( I know this, but it doesn't stop the poor living conditions of these people and how crap their environment is. The system we give them hardly works, and even though it's run by them (Correct me if I'm wrong, I think they run it) they aren't allowed to practice their culture and their previous ways of life in order for them to 'assimilate' to the culture we expect them to have. Even though we say we help, I don't see much of it, or see good enough help.[QUOTE="supa_badman"]
Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals? That's what I would like know.
I feel bad for them.
The Quebecois pretty much bring the hate upon themselves imo. From my experience, I like them a lot.
Cpt-Obvious
[QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"]We pay taxes to pay for many of their needs. I don't hate them (I have many First Nations friends), but we really could use them working and paying taxes like the rest of us. Also, not all of them drink, do drugs and smoke on their reserves all the time. I know many First Nation's who do that, but I also know many First Nations who work, it's no different with caucasians, we have our drug and alcohol addicted welfare people too. It also depends on the tribe. Why does no one who commented on this post not read my next one? lol :( I know this, but it doesn't stop the poor living conditions of these people and how crap their environment is. The system we give them hardly works, and even though it's run by them (Correct me if I'm wrong, I think they run it) they aren't allowed to practice their culture and their previous ways of life in order for them to 'assimilate' to the culture we expect them to have. Even though we say we help, I don't see much of it, or see good enough help.[QUOTE="supa_badman"]
Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals? That's what I would like know.
I feel bad for them.
The Quebecois pretty much bring the hate upon themselves imo. From my experience, I like them a lot.
supa_badman
I don't think they are being assimilated anymore. :| Also, if they dislike the reserves so much... why not just move? I've wondered this...
[QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"]We pay taxes to pay for many of their needs. I don't hate them (I have many First Nations friends), but we really could use them working and paying taxes like the rest of us. Also, not all of them drink, do drugs and smoke on their reserves all the time. I know many First Nation's who do that, but I also know many First Nations who work, it's no different with caucasians, we have our drug and alcohol addicted welfare people too. It also depends on the tribe. Why does no one who commented on this post not read my next one? lol :( I know this, but it doesn't stop the poor living conditions of these people and how crap their environment is. The system we give them hardly works, and even though it's run by them (Correct me if I'm wrong, I think they run it) they aren't allowed to practice their culture and their previous ways of life in order for them to 'assimilate' to the culture we expect them to have. Even though we say we help, I don't see much of it, or see good enough help. Well I didn't say it was quality needs, there are plenty of non-First Nations people living with low quality stuff too, that they have to pay for. Injustice is all around Canada, but I agree, it is not fair that they should lose their rituals and culture. If you ask me, I say we should make everyone in Canada equal, no extra benefits based on race. Now, that's impossible, because so many people have prejudiced beliefs and stereotypes against First Nations, which are totally unfair.[QUOTE="supa_badman"]
Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals? That's what I would like know.
I feel bad for them.
The Quebecois pretty much bring the hate upon themselves imo. From my experience, I like them a lot.
supa_badman
Cost, I'd guess. It's financially adventageous for them to remain there - so in many ways the federal handouts designed as reparations (of a sort) are also backfiring when it comes to helping them merge into the rest of society.I don't think they are being assimilated anymore. :| Also, if they dislike the reserves so much... why not just move? I've wondered this...
RobboElRobbo
[QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"]We pay taxes to pay for many of their needs. I don't hate them (I have many First Nations friends), but we really could use them working and paying taxes like the rest of us. Also, not all of them drink, do drugs and smoke on their reserves all the time. I know many First Nation's who do that, but I also know many First Nations who work, it's no different with caucasians, we have our drug and alcohol addicted welfare people too. It also depends on the tribe. Why does no one who commented on this post not read my next one? lol :( I know this, but it doesn't stop the poor living conditions of these people and how crap their environment is. The system we give them hardly works, and even though it's run by them (Correct me if I'm wrong, I think they run it) they aren't allowed to practice their culture and their previous ways of life in order for them to 'assimilate' to the culture we expect them to have. Even though we say we help, I don't see much of it, or see good enough help.[QUOTE="supa_badman"]
Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals? That's what I would like know.
I feel bad for them.
The Quebecois pretty much bring the hate upon themselves imo. From my experience, I like them a lot.
supa_badman
We do run our system yes, but money corupts, as in all cultures and societies. We are in fact allowed to practice our culture now. My people received that from the government about 50 years ago. Our environment is beautiful and secluded. The only problem now is with getting what, many of my people belive, we 'deserve', the ability to fish in the very waters we have fished since we came across the 'Ice Road' over 40,000 years ago. With the drastic over fishing by everyone, our food supply will soon be non existent.
Actually, there was an old family friend of ours, who was one of the First Nations who left his reserve to live umong the western culture, and when he went back for a visit, his friends and family called him an "apple," which stands for "red on the outside, white on the inside." So leaving might be a bit more complicated and frowned upon.I don't think they are being assimilated anymore. :| Also, if they dislike the reserves so much... why not just move? I've wondered this...
RobboElRobbo
Actually, there was an old family friend of ours, who was one of the First Nations who left his reserve to live umong the western culture, and when he went back for a visit, his friends and family called him an "apple," which stands for "red on the outside, white on the inside." So leaving might be a bit more complicated and frowned upon.[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]
I don't think they are being assimilated anymore. :| Also, if they dislike the reserves so much... why not just move? I've wondered this...
Cpt-Obvious
This is true for the most part. Also, I am not sure about other tribes, but mine is shrinking with ever year that passes. Before long there will be no more of us. To this end, entering the 'western world' is counter productive to ensuring our peoples survival. So it is frowned upon.
I did get that reaction from some of my friends when I left.
Actually, there was an old family friend of ours, who was one of the First Nations who left his reserve to live umong the western culture, and when he went back for a visit, his friends and family called him an "apple," which stands for "red on the outside, white on the inside." So leaving might be a bit more complicated and frowned upon.[QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"]
[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]
I don't think they are being assimilated anymore. :| Also, if they dislike the reserves so much... why not just move? I've wondered this...
Namgis
This is true for the most part. Also, I am not sure about other tribes, but mine is shrinking with ever year that passes. Before long there will be no more of us. To this end, entering the 'western world' is counter productive to ensuring our peoples survival. So it is frowned upon.
I did get that reaction from some of my friends when I left.
Hmm... never thought of it that way before.
could it be maybe because you live in Canada yet recognize yourself as a quebecer and not a Canadian?? or maybe that the rest of canada has to have half french/english in everything, while quebec doesnt, or maybe that whole paul martin sponsorship scandle in paying rich quebecers tax payers money, or maybe how about every 8 years you try to leave canada, or maybe just maybe its because you have... poutineUnknownmuncher
Poutine... *drool*
[QUOTE="Namgis"][QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"] Actually, there was an old family friend of ours, who was one of the First Nations who left his reserve to live umong the western culture, and when he went back for a visit, his friends and family called him an "apple," which stands for "red on the outside, white on the inside." So leaving might be a bit more complicated and frowned upon.
RobboElRobbo
This is true for the most part. Also, I am not sure about other tribes, but mine is shrinking with ever year that passes. Before long there will be no more of us. To this end, entering the 'western world' is counter productive to ensuring our peoples survival. So it is frowned upon.
I did get that reaction from some of my friends when I left.
Hmm... never thought of it that way before.
It's OK I bet, I can tell by some of your previous posts you are probably around 14 or 15, so it's not your responsibility to worry about this or try to fix it yet, you're supposed to be having fun like any other kid, it's up to us adults to try and right our past wrongs, because in 4-5 years, you're one of us! :P[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"][QUOTE="Namgis"]
This is true for the most part. Also, I am not sure about other tribes, but mine is shrinking with ever year that passes. Before long there will be no more of us. To this end, entering the 'western world' is counter productive to ensuring our peoples survival. So it is frowned upon.
I did get that reaction from some of my friends when I left.
Cpt-Obvious
Hmm... never thought of it that way before.
It's OK I bet, I can tell by some of your previous posts you are probably around 14 or 15, so it's not your responsibility to worry about this or try to fix it yet, you're supposed to be having fun like any other kid, it's up to us adults to try and right our past wrongs, because in 4-5 years, you're one of us! :PYep, I am 15 actually. :P I don't tend to look into this stuff at all, I shouldn't post if I already know I'ma get pwned.
[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"][QUOTE="supa_badman"]
Why does Canada hate the Aboriginals?
I don't hate them, but we pay taxes so they can get free everything and all most of them do is wreck it all and get more free stuff... not to mention the amount of drinking and drugs involved in the reserves.
As an Aboriginal, I would like to ask you some questions.
Do you think we don't pay taxes? Because we do. The only time we don't is if we work on 'Rez'. Those jobs are slim pickings.
To what free stuff are you referring? I haven't received any free stuff from anyone. We have free health care, just like you, I had to pay my way to University, just like you.
You do understand that there are more than one type of Indian don't you? My people have not signed a Treaty with the 'man' so we don't get a big check when we turn 18, like some tribes I have seen.
Why is it you think we drink? Because we contracted the disease when North America was "civilized". Also, if your people were forced to give up their art, culture and way of life because it was against the way of the church, wouldn't you reach for a drink? If you have ever had an addiction, you will know what it is like to try and be free of it.
Before you make wild generalizations, I suggest you do some research.
I may get modded for this, but it needed to be said.
(1) you dont pay the federal tax like everybody else when you buy stuff, if you have a status card (2) you get subsidized housing and have laws and legislation that require companies to hire (specifically the federal govt or federal contractors) to hire a certain amount of natives over majoirty groupds (free stuff) do some research on your people (not to be a prick but your first 2 points were false)[QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"]It's OK I bet, I can tell by some of your previous posts you are probably around 14 or 15, so it's not your responsibility to worry about this or try to fix it yet, you're supposed to be having fun like any other kid, it's up to us adults to try and right our past wrongs, because in 4-5 years, you're one of us! :P[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]
Hmm... never thought of it that way before.
RobboElRobbo
Yep, I am 15 actually. :P I don't tend to look into this stuff at all, I shouldn't post if I already know I'ma get pwned.
It is not your fault you are miss informed. It is the governments responsibility to educate it's children on such matters. The lack of knowledge on this matter in the whole thread is evidence of that. Many preconceptions and hate for Aboriginals have been learned sadly, from their parents.
could it be maybe because you live in Canada yet recognize yourself as a quebecer and not a Canadian?? or maybe that the rest of canada has to have half french/english in everything, while quebec doesnt, or maybe that whole paul martin sponsorship scandle in paying rich quebecers tax payers money, or maybe how about every 8 years you try to leave canada, or maybe just maybe its because you have... poutineUnknownmuncher
The Quebecois and Canadian identity do not have to be mutually exclusive; many people are proud to be both.
[QUOTE="Namgis"][QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]
I don't hate them, but we pay taxes so they can get free everything and all most of them do is wreck it all and get more free stuff... not to mention the amount of drinking and drugs involved in the reserves.
Unknownmuncher
As an Aboriginal, I would like to ask you some questions.
Do you think we don't pay taxes? Because we do. The only time we don't is if we work on 'Rez'. Those jobs are slim pickings.
To what free stuff are you referring? I haven't received any free stuff from anyone. We have free health care, just like you, I had to pay my way to University, just like you.
You do understand that there are more than one type of Indian don't you? My people have not signed a Treaty with the 'man' so we don't get a big check when we turn 18, like some tribes I have seen.
Why is it you think we drink? Because we contracted the disease when North America was "civilized". Also, if your people were forced to give up their art, culture and way of life because it was against the way of the church, wouldn't you reach for a drink? If you have ever had an addiction, you will know what it is like to try and be free of it.
Before you make wild generalizations, I suggest you do some research.
I may get modded for this, but it needed to be said.
(1) you dont pay the federal tax like everybody else when you buy stuff, if you have a status card (2) you get subsidized housing and have laws and legislation that require companies to hire (specifically the federal govt or federal contractors) to hire a certain amount of natives over majoirty groupds (free stuff) do some research on your people (not to be a prick but your first 2 points were false)1. We don't pay federal taxes only on the reserve. not off.
2. Not sure on this point, will look into it. My people do not get subsidized housing.
Once again, not all Aborigls get the same thing.
I have done the reseach since I have lived in this culture my whole life.
Actually, there was an old family friend of ours, who was one of the First Nations who left his reserve to live umong the western culture, and when he went back for a visit, his friends and family called him an "apple," which stands for "red on the outside, white on the inside." So leaving might be a bit more complicated and frowned upon.[QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"]
[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]
I don't think they are being assimilated anymore. :| Also, if they dislike the reserves so much... why not just move? I've wondered this...
Namgis
This is true for the most part. Also, I am not sure about other tribes, but mine is shrinking with ever year that passes. Before long there will be no more of us. To this end, entering the 'western world' is counter productive to ensuring our peoples survival. So it is frowned upon.
I did get that reaction from some of my friends when I left.
Aye. My friend left the reserve a ways back, and while he's not shunned, he's not treated as nicely as others when he returns to visit family. I'm not aboriginal, so I won't pretend to have any idea what it's like to carry the burden of keeping a culture intact, but I do tend to wonder why everyone can't just work together, keep their cultures and work under the Canadian banner instead of just arguing with each other all the time.[QUOTE="Unknownmuncher"]could it be maybe because you live in Canada yet recognize yourself as a quebecer and not a Canadian?? or maybe that the rest of canada has to have half french/english in everything, while quebec doesnt, or maybe that whole paul martin sponsorship scandle in paying rich quebecers tax payers money, or maybe how about every 8 years you try to leave canada, or maybe just maybe its because you have... poutineone_plum
The Quebecois and Canadian identity do not have to be mutually exclusive; many people are proud to be both.
Aye. There's no reason why someone can't be both.[QUOTE="Unknownmuncher"][QUOTE="Namgis"]
As an Aboriginal, I would like to ask you some questions.
Do you think we don't pay taxes? Because we do. The only time we don't is if we work on 'Rez'. Those jobs are slim pickings.
To what free stuff are you referring? I haven't received any free stuff from anyone. We have free health care, just like you, I had to pay my way to University, just like you.
You do understand that there are more than one type of Indian don't you? My people have not signed a Treaty with the 'man' so we don't get a big check when we turn 18, like some tribes I have seen.
Why is it you think we drink? Because we contracted the disease when North America was "civilized". Also, if your people were forced to give up their art, culture and way of life because it was against the way of the church, wouldn't you reach for a drink? If you have ever had an addiction, you will know what it is like to try and be free of it.
Before you make wild generalizations, I suggest you do some research.
I may get modded for this, but it needed to be said.
(1) you dont pay the federal tax like everybody else when you buy stuff, if you have a status card (2) you get subsidized housing and have laws and legislation that require companies to hire (specifically the federal govt or federal contractors) to hire a certain amount of natives over majoirty groupds (free stuff) do some research on your people (not to be a prick but your first 2 points were false)1. We don't pay federal taxes only on the reserve. not off.
2. Not sure on this point, will look into it. My people do not get subsidized housing.
Once again, not all Aborigls get the same thing.
I have done the reseach since I have lived in this culture my whole life.
sorry bro but you dont pay federal tax if you have a status card, anybody here who has worked at a walmart or any retail store in canada can back me up on that, i could send you some websites if you want, and seriously i doubt you've done your research if you've never heard of affirmative action/employment equity for natives if you live in CanadaA good read.
Should clear things up for those who take the time to be informed before making accusations.
lol it said exactly what i said plus more, your exempt from federal sales tax all over canada, AND exempt from federal INCOME tax while on the reserve. No accusations were made, just stating the facts.[QUOTE="Unknownmuncher"]could it be maybe because you live in Canada yet recognize yourself as a quebecer and not a Canadian?? or maybe that the rest of canada has to have half french/english in everything, while quebec doesnt, or maybe that whole paul martin sponsorship scandle in paying rich quebecers tax payers money, or maybe how about every 8 years you try to leave canada, or maybe just maybe its because you have... poutineone_plum
The Quebecois and Canadian identity do not have to be mutually exclusive; many people are proud to be both.
very true but of course people are going to look more favourably on someone who puts their country before their province, in terms of Canadians in general[QUOTE="Namgis"]lol it said exactly what i said plus more, your exempt from federal sales tax all over canada, AND exempt from federal INCOME tax while on the reserve. No accusations were made, just stating the facts.A good read.
Should clear things up for those who take the time to be informed before making accusations.
Unknownmuncher
All over Canada yes, how many reserves do you know of that have anything anyone would want to buy, besides gas and cigs? There are maybe a handful. Here in Calgary, there is one gas station where we get fuel and cigs for cheaper than everywhere else, but everyone gets a better deal there as well. As for jobs, There is a golf course there, a casino and a gas station. That's about it. So every indian in the area should have a job at these places just to not pay income tax? Would like to work on a reserve? I have higher aspirations for my life than pumping gas and selling death sticks. Also, most places will only hire natives from their tribe. Some of us like to earn what we get and expect nothing in return. However,
I guess I should get together all of my receipts and take them to the government and get back every penny from the past 25+ years. *sarcasm*
I dont think they do. No more than americans and canadians "hate" each other. A lot of it is just oversensitivity about perceived differences. Whether its regional or national borders, people seem to like to focus on little differences.
I'm a quebecois too, and I have to say that while that's quite a generalization, it holds true to a certain extent.
It's hard to blame them really, we can be annoying sometimes. We're always voting for the exact opposite of the rest of Canada, sometimes it seems just for the heck of it. We keep yapping about our independence, but the majority voted "no" in the two referendums. I've heard many canadians outside Quebec say that we should just get separated once and for all just so they won't have to deal with our BS anymore.viva_hate
I'm from the West, and there's a popular, pervasive belief out here that Quebec'ers are a bunch of over-priviledged, special-status seeking, separatist whiners... but Quebec is as much a part (and more-so) of this country's Heritage as any other Province, and our entire nation would be worse off without Quebec's invaluable contributions...
[QUOTE="viva_hate"]I'm a quebecois too, and I have to say that while that's quite a generalization, it holds true to a certain extent.
It's hard to blame them really, we can be annoying sometimes. We're always voting for the exact opposite of the rest of Canada, sometimes it seems just for the heck of it. We keep yapping about our independence, but the majority voted "no" in the two referendums. I've heard many canadians outside Quebec say that we should just get separated once and for all just so they won't have to deal with our BS anymore.67gt500
I'm from the West, and there's a popular, pervasive belief out here that Quebec'ers are a bunch of over-priviledged, special-status seeking, separatist whiners... but Quebec is as much a part (and more-so) of this country's Heritage as any other Province, and our entire nation would be worse off without Quebec's invaluable contributions...
Those invaulable contributions, of course, aside from the culture, are the Canadian sheild and the Montreal Canadiens.[QUOTE="67gt500"]
[QUOTE="viva_hate"]I'm a quebecois too, and I have to say that while that's quite a generalization, it holds true to a certain extent.
It's hard to blame them really, we can be annoying sometimes. We're always voting for the exact opposite of the rest of Canada, sometimes it seems just for the heck of it. We keep yapping about our independence, but the majority voted "no" in the two referendums. I've heard many canadians outside Quebec say that we should just get separated once and for all just so they won't have to deal with our BS anymore.BumFluff122
I'm from the West, and there's a popular, pervasive belief out here that Quebec'ers are a bunch of over-priviledged, special-status seeking, separatist whiners... but Quebec is as much a part (and more-so) of this country's Heritage as any other Province, and our entire nation would be worse off without Quebec's invaluable contributions...
Those invaulable contributions, of course, aside from the culture, are the Canadian sheild and the Montreal Canadiens.Er, I was thinking more in terms of 'poutine' and maple syrup, but those things you mentioned also deserve an honorable mention...
Those invaulable contributions, of course, aside from the culture, are the Canadian sheild and the Montreal Canadiens.[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]
[QUOTE="67gt500"]
I'm from the West, and there's a popular, pervasive belief out here that Quebec'ers are a bunch of over-priviledged, special-status seeking, separatist whiners... but Quebec is as much a part (and more-so) of this country's Heritage as any other Province, and our entire nation would be worse off without Quebec's invaluable contributions...
67gt500
Er, I was thinking more in terms of 'poutine' and maple syrup, but those things you mentioned also deserve an honorable mention...
Maple syrup, really? I always thought other provinces made it too :P
[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"][QUOTE="Cpt-Obvious"] It's OK I bet, I can tell by some of your previous posts you are probably around 14 or 15, so it's not your responsibility to worry about this or try to fix it yet, you're supposed to be having fun like any other kid, it's up to us adults to try and right our past wrongs, because in 4-5 years, you're one of us! :P
Namgis
Yep, I am 15 actually. :P I don't tend to look into this stuff at all, I shouldn't post if I already know I'ma get pwned.
It is not your fault you are miss informed. It is the governments responsibility to educate it's children on such matters. The lack of knowledge on this matter in the whole thread is evidence of that. Many preconceptions and hate for Aboriginals have been learned sadly, from their parents.
My parents tell me about this kind of stuff, and I never really looked into researching... sorry. :(
[QUOTE="Namgis"][QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]
Yep, I am 15 actually. :P I don't tend to look into this stuff at all, I shouldn't post if I already know I'ma get pwned.
RobboElRobbo
It is not your fault you are miss informed. It is the governments responsibility to educate it's children on such matters. The lack of knowledge on this matter in the whole thread is evidence of that. Many preconceptions and hate for Aboriginals have been learned sadly, from their parents.
My parents tell me about this kind of stuff, and I never really looked into researching... sorry. :(
Don' worry about it. If you are interested in it now, then by all means look into it. Plenty of resources out there.
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