Why does God not tell the world what the correct interpretation of his Bible is?

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#1 ice144
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Of all the things in the world that he could do for mankind, you think he would atleast do this.

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#2 needled24-7
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god would have to be real for that to happen

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#3 firedonut
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That would essentially be asking God to prove his existance, killing the idea of faith, and the whole purpose of the religion.

EDIT: Spelling.

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oh this should be excellent.

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#5 Theokhoth
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Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

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#6 GazaAli
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i dont believe in the bible in the first place. just the idea of having different versions of it is just right at all. i have the Quran , one version over the previous 1500 years. its really clear, people just choose not to listen/understand.
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#7 Teenaged
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Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

Theokhoth

But I guess we will always be very far from fulfilling that potential.

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its really clear, people just choose not to listen/understand.GazaAli
assuming they've even been introduced to the book... and I'm sure that's not 100% accurate.
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#9 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Why do people question Gods existence the most..:?...i guess because it is so questionable..

The religion is based on faith...God has come down and told people things as well as given us signs he exists..

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#10 trust_nobody
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Is there a correct interpretation?

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i dont believe in the bible in the first place. just the idea of having different versions of it is just right at all. i have the Quran , one version over the previous 1500 years. its really clear, people just choose not to listen/understand.GazaAli

There are several versions of the Koran. . .

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#12 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]its really clear, people just choose not to listen/understand.smc91352
assuming they've even been introduced to the book... and I'm sure that's not 100% accurate.

actually thats true sadly.
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Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

Theokhoth

Funny, because we don't seem to have done a very good job of doing so. :|

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Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

Theokhoth

Well that's the problem, to me atleast.

Will a Jehovah's witness and a Catholic and some random cult group all go to heaven? Even though their interpretations of the bible are very different?

I would think that God sees them all trying to praise him, and would atleast come down and tell them the right way the bible is meant to be read, so that their efforts may not be in vain.

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#15 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

chessmaster1989

Funny, because we don't seem to have done a very good job of doing so. :|

Indeed. Like Teenaged said, we haven't done very well with the potential. It's all there; it just requires work, and people think that's too much of God to ask.

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#16 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Here's the correct version for Catholics to read if your interested...

The Douay-Rheims Bible is a scrupulously faithful translation into English of the Latin Vulgate Bible which St. Jerome (342-420) translated into Latin from the original languages. The Vulgate quickly became the Bible universally used in the Latin Rite (by far the largest rite of the Catholic Church).



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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

Theokhoth

Funny, because we don't seem to have done a very good job of doing so. :|

Indeed. Like Teenaged said, we haven't done very well with the potential. It's all there; it just requires work, and people think that's too much of God to ask.

But how can you be sure we even have this potential?

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

ice144

Well that's the problem, to me atleast.

Will a Jehovah's witness and a Catholic and some random cult group all go to heaven? Even though their interpretations of the bible are very different?

I would think that God sees them all trying to praise him, and would atleast come down and tell them the right way the bible is meant to be read, so that their efforts may not be in vain.

If they all do have the best of intentions at heart then I'm sure God does understand. It's similar to the case of people who've never been witnessed to.

I'm sure God'll tell us the correct translation after we die and then let us figure out if we like it or not.

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#19 Assassin1349
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Because God didn't write the bible and he can't talk.

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#20 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Funny, because we don't seem to have done a very good job of doing so. :|

chessmaster1989

Indeed. Like Teenaged said, we haven't done very well with the potential. It's all there; it just requires work, and people think that's too much of God to ask.

But how can you be sure we even have this potential?

We know what languages the Bible was written in, we know the cultures and beliefs, we know where it comes from; all we don't know about the Bible is some of the authors (which shouldn't matter as we still know the time period in which they were written). We have the Bible's original manuscripts, texts that never became part of the thing, etc. We have all the information necessary; it's just nobody wants to do anything with it.

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#21 battlefront23
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Because than faith would be void.

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#22 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Indeed. Like Teenaged said, we haven't done very well with the potential. It's all there; it just requires work, and people think that's too much of God to ask.

Theokhoth

But how can you be sure we even have this potential?

We know what languages the Bible was written in, we know the cultures and beliefs, we know where it comes from; all we don't know about the Bible is some of the authors (which shouldn't matter as we still know the time period in which they were written). We have the Bible's original manuscripts, texts that never became part of the thing, etc. We have all the information necessary; it's just nobody wants to do anything with it.

Even if you could get the correct word translation, that's still a good ways from getting the correct meaning. How can you determine what is meant to be literal and what is meant to be metaphorical? This distinction is vastly more important than any other translation differences.

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#23 XilePrincess
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My first thought is because it'd be hilarious to watch humanity duke it out over the 'right' interpretation. But that's probably just what I would do.
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Indeed. Like Teenaged said, we haven't done very well with the potential. It's all there; it just requires work, and people think that's too much of God to ask.

Theokhoth

But how can you be sure we even have this potential?

We know what languages the Bible was written in, we know the cultures and beliefs, we know where it comes from; all we don't know about the Bible is some of the authors (which shouldn't matter as we still know the time period in which they were written). We have the Bible's original manuscripts, texts that never became part of the thing, etc. We have all the information necessary; it's just nobody wants to do anything with it.

Well, I would change the last phrase you used to "its just nobody knows (for sure) what to do with it".

On the other hand I dont think the possibility that the Bible is not 100% the unaltered word of God should be ruled out. And that makes the potential pretty hard to even begin fulfilling it. And thats how I changed the last phrase you used. Unluckily, Its not "all there". Some is; we can debate whether or not those that are there are enough or not but I dont think we can debate whether or not all is there. Anyway, at least imo not all is there.

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#25 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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The Catholic faith isn't based verbatim on the Bible though..it's not meant to be taken literally word for word or anything...I find that the Catholic faith is based more on exactly that..Faith...the commandments were set as guidelines and we have countless other guidelines...like the Catechism of the Catholic Church..much clearer on the laws God gave us..

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Maybe we're no more likely to understand God himself and his intentions, than a tiny ant in an ant farm understanding us and our intentions. Food for thought!
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That would essentially be asking God to prove his existance, killing the idea of faith, and the whole purpose of the religion.

firedonut
Actually proving his existence and clearly explaining his words would help strengthen faith because that would provide a foundation for a faith to be built on.

For example: I have faith that when I flip the light switch the bulb on my ceiling will illuminate the room. Why? Because I have previous evidence of it doing so in the past. This is faith. Even if we are in a building for the first time we all have FAITH that by flipping a switch the light will turn on because we have knowledge of the purpose of a switch and how by completing a circuit you create a path for electricity to flow which turns the bulb on. If you were a person that never knew that electricity and bulbs existed you wouldn't have faith that by flipping a switch the room will magically go bright.

By proving God and explaining his words we would know what he wants us to do and we would have FAITH that he will bless and save us for following his commands because we would know that he is real.

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#28 MasterKingMP
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If there is a GOD, than that GOD probably laughs at how stupid humans are for believing in something so rediculous as the Bible.

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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]i dont believe in the bible in the first place. just the idea of having different versions of it is just right at all. i have the Quran , one version over the previous 1500 years. its really clear, people just choose not to listen/understand.Theokhoth

There are several versions of the Koran. . .

please dont come up with random stuff. there are no several versions of Quran.
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Maybe we're no more likely to understand God himself and his intentions, than a tiny ant in an ant farm understanding us and our intentions. Food for thought!F1_2004
If God exists and he is all powerful and all knowing, like people claim, then he can explain his intentions quite clear.
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Because than faith would be void.

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Could anyone explain to me why we need that test when people in Biblical times got to have God basically come up and say "I'm God, I'm real, do what i say and you're set for eternity"? I mean Moses presumably got into heaven without having to believe in stories for little more reason than his elders told him to.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] [QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]i dont believe in the bible in the first place. just the idea of having different versions of it is just right at all. i have the Quran , one version over the previous 1500 years. its really clear, people just choose not to listen/understand.GazaAli

There are several versions of the Koran. . .

please dont come up with random stuff. there are no several versions of Quran.

If Quran was clear , whats the need for Hadith then ? and do you honestly believe Quran makes any more sense than the bible does ?

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

ice144

Well that's the problem, to me atleast.

Will a Jehovah's witness and a Catholic and some random cult group all go to heaven? Even though their interpretations of the bible are very different?

I would think that God sees them all trying to praise him, and would atleast come down and tell them the right way the bible is meant to be read, so that their efforts may not be in vain.

a Christian is someone who accepts Jesus as his savior, therefore, yes they will go to the "same" (and only) CHRISTIAN heaven
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Maybe we're no more likely to understand God himself and his intentions, than a tiny ant in an ant farm understanding us and our intentions. Food for thought!Diablo-B
If God exists and he is all powerful and all knowing, like people claim, then he can explain his intentions quite clear.

That doesn't make sense. He may be all-knowing, but we aren't. No more than you can explain the universe to an ant.
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Of all the things in the world that he could do for mankind, you think he would atleast do this.

ice144
Cause God loves to keep us guessin'. :P
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[QUOTE="ice144"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

lightleggy

Well that's the problem, to me atleast.

Will a Jehovah's witness and a Catholic and some random cult group all go to heaven? Even though their interpretations of the bible are very different?

I would think that God sees them all trying to praise him, and would atleast come down and tell them the right way the bible is meant to be read, so that their efforts may not be in vain.

a Christian is someone who accepts Jesus as his savior, therefore, yes they will go to the "same" (and only) CHRISTIAN heaven

how many heavens are there ? does each religion have it's own heaven and hell ?
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oh and btw, im sick of this "if God is real then why he doesnt come down here to proove his existance?" threads

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[QUOTE="ice144"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Would that really stop alternate interpretations? Even when authors state exactly what their books meant, people go on interpreting them.

Anyway, God doesn't need to; we're perfectly capable of figuring it out ourselves.

lightleggy

Well that's the problem, to me atleast.

Will a Jehovah's witness and a Catholic and some random cult group all go to heaven? Even though their interpretations of the bible are very different?

I would think that God sees them all trying to praise him, and would atleast come down and tell them the right way the bible is meant to be read, so that their efforts may not be in vain.

a Christian is someone who accepts Jesus as his savior, therefore, yes they will goto the "same" (and only) CHRISTIAN heaven

Well some Christians even would disagree with that part of your post.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="ice144"]

Well that's the problem, to me atleast.

Will a Jehovah's witness and a Catholic and some random cult group all go to heaven? Even though their interpretations of the bible are very different?

I would think that God sees them all trying to praise him, and would atleast come down and tell them the right way the bible is meant to be read, so that their efforts may not be in vain.

garaa2007

a Christian is someone who accepts Jesus as his savior, therefore, yes they will go to the "same" (and only) CHRISTIAN heaven

how many heavens are there ? does each religion have it's own heaven and hell ?

thats why I said the ONLY heaven...

is not like there is a protestant heaven, a catholic heaven, a jehovah witness heaven, a jewish heaven...

its just 1 CHRISTIAN heaven, btw in case anyone wonders, jewish ARE not christians

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Well there is a possibility that God isn't even real.

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Well there is a possibility that God isn't even real.

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A gigantic possibility.
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#42 garaa2007
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[QUOTE="shinian"]

Well there is a possibility that God isn't even real.

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A gigantic possibility.

I'm almost certain he doesn't exist .
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="ice144"]

Well that's the problem, to me atleast.

Will a Jehovah's witness and a Catholic and some random cult group all go to heaven? Even though their interpretations of the bible are very different?

I would think that God sees them all trying to praise him, and would atleast come down and tell them the right way the bible is meant to be read, so that their efforts may not be in vain.

Teenaged

a Christian is someone who accepts Jesus as his savior, therefore, yes they will goto the "same" (and only) CHRISTIAN heaven

Well some Christians even would disagree with that part of your post.

listen, believing in virgin mary, not having holidays, not celebrating christmas...all that kind of stuff are just added "extras" to religions but if the religion IS christian and the person accepts Jesuschrist as his/her savior then he/she is Christian. not like if im Christian protestant and my brother is catholic Christians and I get sended to protestant heaven and he gets sended to catholic heaven...no that only occurs in the simpsons
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listen, believing in virgin mary, not having holidays, not celebrating christmas...all that kind of stuff are just added "extras" to religions but if the religion IS christian and the person accepts Jesuschrist as his/her savior then he/she is Christian. not like if im Christian protestant and my brother is catholic Christians and I get sended to protestant heaven and he gets sended to catholic heaven...no that only occurs in the simpsons

how do you know that you are going to heaven and not your brother ? , didn't god promise heaven to those who believe in him ? most people of different faiths basically believe in God the creator , so shouldn't they be sent to the same heaven ?
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[QUOTE="Diablo-B"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]Maybe we're no more likely to understand God himself and his intentions, than a tiny ant in an ant farm understanding us and our intentions. Food for thought!F1_2004
If God exists and he is all powerful and all knowing, like people claim, then he can explain his intentions quite clear.

That doesn't make sense. He may be all-knowing, but we aren't. No more than you can explain the universe to an ant.

Hes not only supposed to be all knowing he is also supposed to be all powerful, therefore he should have the power to explain it in a way we can understand, or else hes not all powerful.... Of course this is all theory since no one knows if he is real.
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Can't I practice my religion in peace? I do not know why people are so intent in trying to disprove God. Why does it matter to you if I believe?

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Can't I practice my religion in peace? I do not know why people are so intent in trying to disprove God. Why does it matter to you if I believe?

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#48 lightleggy
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how do you know that you are going to heaven and not your brother ? , didn't god promise heaven to those who believe in him ? most people of different faiths basically believe in God the creator , so shouldn't they be sent to the same heaven ?garaa2007
and can you pls specify when did I said my brother wouldn't go to heaven? try to understand the post before replying, maybe you will avoid asking questions that had nothing to do with the post you quote

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#49 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]

Can't I practice my religion in peace? I do not know why people are so intent in trying to disprove God. Why does it matter to you if I believe?

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Did anyone else get the image of a pissed off Altiar coming to kill all the heathens?

I dont know this "altiar" is so no
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#50 hodges_3_5
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[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]

Can't I practice my religion in peace? I do not know why people are so intent in trying to disprove God. Why does it matter to you if I believe?

Gallion-Beast

Did anyone else get the image of a pissed off Altiar coming to kill all the heathens?

Lol. You better watch out. :P