why does the west cater to people in middle eastern countries

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43527580/ns/world_news-americas

Becuase being politically correct is the most important thing in the world.

****ing disgusting. Wanting to change the rules in weight lifting in a totally benign way so she can compete while following the rules of her religion? What a monster.

if anything they should make professional female bodybuilders cover their face entirely....problems solved....(for the entire world)....Omni-Slash

Thats abit too much lol

F*** that. Nobody should get special priveleges at work because of their religion. That Christians get time off for Christimas...well, that's just tough s***, and what happens when you live in a country where nearly everbody celebrates Christmas.

if anything they should make professional female bodybuilders cover their face entirely....problems solved....(for the entire world)....Omni-Slash

:lol:

Oil.

Caters to Middle Eastern countries? The woman is an American. :?

I was expecting some kind of political move or something to that effect. But a weightlifter? *yawn* Move on and focus on issues that are important. :roll:

I'm on the muslim womans side.

Why should she have to show her arms and legs, it's pedantic.

Idiotic, rulling in her favor would create a dangerous precedent which could damage the competitive lifting world.

Those rules are there for a reason so competitors don't cheat and judges can verify success.

To be honest I have gotten the impression that muslim woman are way too whiney and sensitive about what they wear, even when situations call for it not to be worn.

Common sense >> catering to idiocy.

why do you care what she wears.. that is hardly catering

F*** that. Nobody should get special priveleges at work because of their religion. That Christians get time off for Christimas...well, that's just tough s***, and what happens when you live in a country where nearly everbody celebrates Christmas.

Palantas

it isn't special priveleges, wearing a cross or otehr religious garments should be allowed

it isn't special priveleges, wearing a cross or otehr religious garments should be allowed

weezyfb

Why religious garments? Why do religious garments get special priveleges? And I call it that, because that's exactly what it is. Everyone else has to abide by a certain dress code, until uh oh, someone's particular faith demands that they wear something different. Now it's a big deal for some reason. How is this any different from someone not wanting to abide by the dress code (or whatever) because they just don't feel like it?

I'd like to know just how a headscarf allows cheating for something that requires everything below the head to do.

If anything we have a Muslim women who practices her faith, even through what she wears and is doing something outside what is considerd her 'gender role', by doing weightlifting.

and yet. the mere request "can i wear my hijab?" is denied quickly.

Frankly i think in multi-cultural free societies people SHOULD be allowed to wear their religious garbs. and please people, keep your hyperbolic nonsense examples at home.

A necklace, a turban, a hijab, a yamaka, doesn't mean it's forcing anything on anyone. It's people expressing themselves through their beliefs.

It's an item clothing, almost all of them don't get in the way of being to perform duties.

Why religious garments? Why do religious garments get special priveleges? And I call it that, because that's exactly what it is. Everyone else has to abide by a certain dress code, until uh oh, someone's particular faith demands that they wear something different. Now it's a big deal for some reason. How is this any different from someone not wanting to abide by the dress code (or whatever) because they just don't feel like it?Palantas

I'd like to know just how a headscarf allows cheating for something that requires everything below the head to do.

If anything we have a Muslim women who practices her faith, even through what she wears and is doing something outside what is considerd her 'gender role', by doing weightlifting.

and yet. the mere request "can i wear my hijab?" is denied quickly.

Frankly i think in multi-cultural free societies people SHOULD be allowed to wear their religious garbs. and please people, keep your hyperbolic nonsense examples at home.

A necklace, a turban, a hijab, a yamaka, doesn't mean it's forcing anything on anyone. It's people expressing themselves through their beliefs.

It's an item clothing, almost all of them don't get in the way of being to perform duties.

SaudiFury

To be as fair as one possibly can to the weight lifting organization (because the most pressing performance-enhancing issue in a sport like weight lifting must be people trying to wear long sleeves), the problem is she also has to cover her arms and legs, which according to the rules could make it difficult for the judges to determine when she has locked her elbows and therefore completed the lift (because apparently they've never heard of spandex, Under Armor, Lululemon or the myriad of other super-tight fitting sportswear options out there? Despite being the governing body for a sport in which everyone wears super-tight fitting singlets?).

Because she has a stronger feel of duty behind her, if one didn't want to abide by the dress code, how would she justify it? She wouldn't be able to, but she (the Muslim girl) can. So let her wear whatever she wants, like it even mattered.luisen123

I'm not at all understanding what you're saying here. Because she has a "stronger feel of duty" (whatever that means)...what?

I'm not at all understanding what you're saying here. Because she has a "stronger feel of duty" (whatever that means)...what?Palantas

Man, it doesn't even matter, let her wear whatever she goddamn wants.luisen123

This is actually coherent. And...I disagree. Why is she special? What's the difference between someone refusing to wear a uniform because of their religion, versus refusing to wear a uniform because they just don't feel like it?

Because nobody will ever refuse to wear a uniform because they simply don't feel like it...

luisen123

That doesn't answer my question at all. I'll post it again: What's the difference between someone objecting to wearing something on religious grounds, versus philosophical or emotional grounds (that'd be the "I just don't feel like it")?

I'm not arguing about this on a goddamn forum, if she wants to weightlift while wearing a shovel on her head, then goddamn, let her do it, it's not harming anything.luisen123

Oh, you are arguing about it on a forum; you're just doing a bad job of it. Yes, I understand your opinion. It'd be swell if you could support it in some other way asides from just stating it again and again.

I'm not even going to argue the particulars of this incident. I want to know why religious people should get special treatment, why rules should be broken or changed just for them.

Because Religion plays a big part in society, whether you like it or not.

And that's the last you're getting out of me.

Because Religion plays a big part in society, whether you like it or not.

luisen123

What the f*** does that mean? I know it plays a big part in society. So does a lot of other stuff. That doesn't explain why special exceptions should be made for a person due to their religious beliefs, versus any other opinion they might have.

I personally don't care if she wants to wear that stuff while in a weightlifting competition... but I have to be honest, I get tired of people making special rules for Muslims. I mean, I have nothing against the religion, but it's the other weird stuff done outside of worship that is tiresome.

And that's the last you're getting out of me.luisen123

Well who knows maybe she will recieve death threats if she wears too-revealing clothing. I can see that it might be important that she covers up, so I view it as a nice modest request.brandontwb

BUT WE MUST RESPECT THE RULES, OR SOCIETY WILL GO MAD, MAD I SAY!luisen123

Yeah, pretty much. There aren't many people here who disagree with rule of law in general.

Yeah, pretty much. There aren't many people here who disagree with rule of law in general.Palantas

Nothing like fine dogmas in a summer night, am I right?luisen123

Probably not, given what I've seen in this thread. If you'd like to make a thread proposing anarchy as a social model, then have at it.

Why do men cater to women? I think women swimmers should wear the same Speedos that men wear. It would definitely be more interesting (and fair)

if anything they should make professional female bodybuilders cover their face entirely....problems solved....(for the entire world)....Omni-Slash