Why don't creationists teach creationism at a church?

It makes sense. The people who go to church are generally receptive towards creationism. They can teach Young Earth creationism, theistic evolution, Gap creationism, or any other form of creationism that the church wants. This would actually promote church attendance because Christians won't feel obligated to just go to a public school to learn. Since they're exempted from taxes, this is a good way for them to understand the different beliefs of how God's work originated. It'd also keep it away from being part of the curriculum of a science classroom.

Anyone else agree?

It makes sense. The people who go to church are generally receptive towards creationism. They can teach Young Earth creationism, theistic evolution, Gap creationism, or any other form of creationism that the church wants. This would actually promote church attendance because Christians won't feel obligated to just go to a public school to learn. Since they're exempted from taxes, this is a good way for them to understand the different beliefs of how God's work originated. It'd also keep it away from being part of the curriculum of a science classroom.

Anyone else agree?

Genetic_Code

What makes you think that such places don't exist?Slapshot

The church that I went to didn't really care on your stance on the origin of life. Most churches I know are "intellectually bankrupt", as the late Dracargen put it, because they unquestionably believe in whatever doctrine they see fit, without once trying to verify its integrity.

Honestly, what would "teaching" creationism even look like? I's supposedly a science (it's not, but some insist it is), so how would it be taught? There are no creationist experiments or textbooks. You can't get a masters in creation science. How would one of these classes even go about?Rhazakna

I don't know, honestly, other than to explain the assertions made by each creationism as though it were a philosophy. I'd imagine some of the experiments would be placing a hand around a banana, just to prove that it was designed for man. :P

Besides, a masters doesn't have to be required, and there is the Bible that could make for a textbook reference, at the very least.

[QUOTE="Slapshot"]What makes you think that such places don't exist?Genetic_Code

The church that I went to didn't really care on your stance on the origin of life. Most churches I know are "intellectually bankrupt", as the late Dracargen put it, because they unquestionably believe in whatever doctrine they see fit, without once trying to verify its integrity.

Honestly, what would "teaching" creationism even look like? I's supposedly a science (it's not, but some insist it is), so how would it be taught? There are no creationist experiments or textbooks. You can't get a masters in creation science. How would one of these classes even go about?Rhazakna

I don't know, honestly, other than to explain the assertions made by each creationism as though it were a philosophy. I'd imagine some of the experiments would be placing a hand around a banana, just to prove that it was designed for man. :P

Besides, a masters doesn't have to be required, and there is the Bible that could make for a textbook reference, at the very least.

The bible wouldn' work, though. The bible only mentions creation very briefly. It doesn't talk about the mechanics of creation, or what specific methods god used. Even it did, such information would be irrelevant as there is no empirical evidence to support such methods.

Let me phrase my question better: For creationism to be taught as science, creation scince textbooks need to be written. What goes in the books?

Let me phrase my question better: For creationism to be taught as science, creation scince textbooks need to be written. What goes in the books?

Rhazakna

I guess just different assertions made by each philosophy and since some parts of creationism deny evolution, then they can make assertions there. It could lead to a form of brain-washing, but I don't care. If they keep creationism away from the science classroom, that would be ideal. Also, it might be nice for a church to just teach creationism and not preach it, without having to question the integrity of the student for not believing in some, if not all, parts of creationism.

Get a clue about the Church. We dont deny the existence of evolution and it is not wrong to believe in it. You must be reffering to a fundamentalist church or something. We do not believe however, in atheistic evolution which is that God had no involvement. Thats all.chester706

Did I ever say that they denied evolution? In fact, I even mentioned theistic evolution in my original post. Get a clue before posting.

Honestly, what would "teaching" creationism even look like? I's supposedly a science (it's not, but some insist it is), so how would it be taught? There are no creationist experiments or textbooks. You can't get a masters in creation science. How would one of these classes even go about?Rhazakna

theres "college courses" in the bottom too

Teaching philosophy in grade school would make sense as well, but not everyone agrees with the subject just like how not all Catholics, Christians, etc believe in Creationism. Vax45

We don't have to agree though. We can be receptive. I don't think Mark Twain is that great of a writer. Does that mean I'm obligated to not reading his book if I'm assigned to?

I should clarify that I have no problem with creationism in some sort of religion class, just not in a science lab.

Fundies DO teach creationism at church. The whole idea of teaching creationism in public schools is its a means to inject fundamentalist teachings into the main stream world.Frattracide

I live in a very red state and I've never attended a fundamental church nor have I ever seen one. Do you have evidence that they have studies on creationism?

[QUOTE="chester706"]Get a clue about the Church. We dont deny the existence of evolution and it is not wrong to believe in it. You must be reffering to a fundamentalist church or something. We do not believe however, in atheistic evolution which is that God had no involvement. Thats all.Genetic_Code

Did I ever say that they denied evolution? In fact, I even mentioned theistic evolution in my original post. Get a clue before posting.

[QUOTE="Slapshot"]What makes you think that such places don't exist?Genetic_Code

The church that I went to didn't really care on your stance on the origin of life. Most churches I know are "intellectually bankrupt", as the late Dracargen put it, because they unquestionably believe in whatever doctrine they see fit, without once trying to verify its integrity.

My stance on the origin of life? Do you even know the Catholic Churches position on evolution?

SIapshot

They support it.

My bad I overlooked that. Sorry .

chester706

That's alright. I make mistakes, too.

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Honestly, what would "teaching" creationism even look like? I's supposedly a science (it's not, but some insist it is), so how would it be taught? There are no creationist experiments or textbooks. You can't get a masters in creation science. How would one of these classes even go about?Silenthps

Kent Hovind? Kent Hovind's insane theories are rejected even by other creationist groups like Answers in Genesis. Calling something a college course doesn't make it so.

TBH I don't really remeber hearing a sermon on creation. At all. Heh, I follow theistic evolution myself, but I just can't recall a sermon that coveres YEC. Hrm. You'll have me pondering this all night.

Also if you don't mind me asking, what you call yourself genetic code? Atheist ,deist..etc?

Oh joy got in for this one early. :)

Before I start with the debating lets just get my beliefs down on the table first so that there are no confusions.

Stance on creationism being taught as science in school: Straight out its not a science. I believe science as taught is school should be only relating to things which have been proved to be true or could possibly be proved true. For this very reason creationism is not science because short of God revelaing his existance it cannot be proved true. It belongs in the church where they have every right to teach it to those who are willing, so that these people can make their own minds up as to the nature of the universe.

View on Religion in general: I respect religion and those who believe it so long as their beliefs are not shoved down my throat.

My Religon: Athiest to some extent but I am willing to admit there are some things we cant explain with science.

I would think some mention creation definatly, but whether they teach it, or explain the story behind It, is two different things.

Also if you don't mind me asking, what you call yourself genetic code? Atheist ,deist..etc?

Ravirr

I don't prefer to be called anything, but the best description of me is agnostic.

Right from the link in this thread:
"Watching Video: The Age of the EarthRefutes evolution's proposition that the earth has evolved over billions of years, and gives scientific evidence of a literal six-day creation"

Thats why, in my opinion it shouldn't be taught anywere. I have no problem with christians, but I find fundies outrageous.

[QUOTE="Ravirr"]

Also if you don't mind me asking, what you call yourself genetic code? Atheist ,deist..etc?

Genetic_Code

I don't prefer to be called anything, but the best description of me is agnostic.

I hear ya. Just trying to get to know ya :P

Probably because not all Christians support those kinds of creationism.foxhound_fox

Actually that is an excellent point. Since all religions dont agree on creationism or for that matter how god was involved in it ie the two basic beliefs:

1)God created all animals as they are now

2) god created the simple lifeforms which were the origion of all life, watching them grow and evolve under his guidence.

Why is it that they think it is so nesisary to teach one factions idea of how the world started? Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! in so many ways. The might be as many as 30 different religions or more in one class room and yet they pick the belief of only one to be taught in school? Yet another reason why creationism belongs in church not school.