why dont scientists focus more on going to other planets to live?

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#1 reach3
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Why don't scientists focus more on living on other planets? they are dropping the ball in this field. so many possibilities alone. not only could we walk aorund and experiment and search for alien life, we could also effectively live twice as long since otheryear take a lot longer likefor instance on earth we can live to 100 but on a cold planet we can live for 200 or maybe 300

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#2 tenaka2
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Why don't scientists focus more on living on other planets? they are dropping the ball in this field. so many possibilities alone. not only could we walk aorund and experiment and search for alien life, we could also effectively live twice as long since otheryear take a lot longer likefor instance on earth we can live to 100 but on a cold planet we can live for 200 or maybe 300

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So how many of those drug trials did you sign up for? You are living proof that they are in fact, very unsafe indeed.

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Why don't scientists focus more on living on other planets? they are dropping the ball in this field. so many possibilities alone. not only could we walk aorund and experiment and search for alien life, we could also effectively live twice as long since otheryear take a lot longer likefor instance on earth we can live to 100 but on a cold planet we can live for 200 or maybe 300

reach3
Because we can't even return to the moon, let alone invading other worlds. Plus we'd have to sit down and talk with some form of galactic UN lest we get sanctioned.
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we could also effectively live twice as long since otheryear take a lot longer likefor instance on earth we can live to 100 but on a cold planet we can live for 200 or maybe 300

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Money, that's why. Although there are small groups here and there trying to make it happen. Google "Mars One" for more info.

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#6 Pittfan666
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Well Nasa was focusing its attention on Mars until Obama cut back the funding...
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#7 CycleOfViolence
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See NASA cutbacks.

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#8 Crunchy_Nuts
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Why would you want to go to inferior planets. It's the same reason you wouldn't choose to go to Canada.
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#9 Ravensmash
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Well Nasa was focusing its attention on Mars until Obama cut back the funding...Pittfan666
Yeah. There are a large number of countries/agencies looking at space travel though, look at all these for the moon alone: - DSE Alpha - India - Europe - China - Iran - Russia - Japan Could be cool if any of those make it; I really hope so.
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The gains no longer outweigh the massive costs. Just to get to Mars it would take months of space travel. Only to find out what we pretty much already know, there isn't jack on that planet we could really benefit from.

Going to the moon during the 60s was just an offshoot of the cold war. We gained a lot from it sure, but it was insanely expensive for the nation. Now there is very little benefit of actually doing these things aside from saying that we did it.

Private companies are starting to take up the space program because they are self-sustaining, NASA isn't. NASA's budget keeps getting cut becasue it's outlived it's usefulness. It was created to help us beat the Soviets, but now it's a massive drain. Unless we find something that can make space travel worthwhile, don't expect anybody to dump the enormous amounts of money into the R&D to keep things going.

China is the only nation I can see doing that because they are fixated on proving to the rest of the world that they are a modern nation. They are also the only nation I can think of which has the disposable income and the lust for insane GDP growth. Public works projects to their space program could continue the artificial inflation of their GDP.

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The gains no longer outweigh the massive costs. Just to get to Mars it would take months of space travel. Only to find out what we pretty much already know, there isn't jack on that planet we could really benefit from.

Going to the moon during the 60s was just an offshoot of the cold war. We gained a lot from it sure, but it was insanely expensive for the nation. Now there is very little benefit of actually doing these things aside from saying that we did it.

Private companies are starting to take up the space program because they are self-sustaining, NASA isn't. NASA's budget keeps getting cut becasue it's outlived it's usefulness. It was created to help us beat the Soviets, but now it's a massive drain.

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Do you think that NASA will have a re-energised focus if any of the above mentioned countries are successful in their plans? Kind of like a 21st century space race that massively advances the technology required? Would be cool.
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Many secret space agencies have attempted to venture into the vast dark space and colonize other planets but they were stopped by the reapers. Now until we finish the crucible project we have no chance against them.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The gains no longer outweigh the massive costs. Just to get to Mars it would take months of space travel. Only to find out what we pretty much already know, there isn't jack on that planet we could really benefit from.

Going to the moon during the 60s was just an offshoot of the cold war. We gained a lot from it sure, but it was insanely expensive for the nation. Now there is very little benefit of actually doing these things aside from saying that we did it.

Private companies are starting to take up the space program because they are self-sustaining, NASA isn't. NASA's budget keeps getting cut becasue it's outlived it's usefulness. It was created to help us beat the Soviets, but now it's a massive drain.

Ravensmash

Do you think that NASA will have a re-energised focus if any of the above mentioned countries are successful in their plans? Kind of like a 21st century space race that massively advances the technology required? Would be cool.

Not really. Unless we find minerals or something that can payoff in the end, nobody will be investing the money. During the cold war, NASA's payoff was purely political from a funding point of view. Sure we got a lot of sweet tech from it, but now the tech innovation is pushed by the market's own demand for it. Back before space travel, people weren't always demanding better electronics. NASA's development drove up the demand to the point where it's self ssustaining.

People didn't care about the tech, they were just happy to live their lives with what they had. That's not the case anymore. Also other industries now demand the technology that would have been developed by NASA's further exploration of space.

I hate to see it go, but the amount of money we would need to sustain a succesful space program that could reach the moon and Mars far outweighs the benifits. As I said before, private companies could probably find the value in it. If they can find the value in it, they could find a way to make it self sustaining. Then we may see a resurgence of space exploration, if somebody could find the value in it and make it self sustaining.

A purely government funded program is extremely unlikely anymore, except for maybe China.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The gains no longer outweigh the massive costs. Just to get to Mars it would take months of space travel. Only to find out what we pretty much already know, there isn't jack on that planet we could really benefit from.

Going to the moon during the 60s was just an offshoot of the cold war. We gained a lot from it sure, but it was insanely expensive for the nation. Now there is very little benefit of actually doing these things aside from saying that we did it.

Private companies are starting to take up the space program because they are self-sustaining, NASA isn't. NASA's budget keeps getting cut becasue it's outlived it's usefulness. It was created to help us beat the Soviets, but now it's a massive drain.

Wasdie

Do you think that NASA will have a re-energised focus if any of the above mentioned countries are successful in their plans? Kind of like a 21st century space race that massively advances the technology required? Would be cool.

Not really. Unless we find minerals or something that can payoff in the end, nobody will be investing the money. During the cold war, NASA's payoff was purely political from a funding point of view. Sure we got a lot of sweet tech from it, but now the tech innovation is pushed by the market's own demand for it. Back before space travel, people weren't always demanding better electronics. NASA's development drove up the demand to the point where it's self ssustaining.

People didn't care about the tech, they were just happy to live their lives with what they had. That's not the case anymore. Also other industries now demand the technology that would have been developed by NASA's further exploration of space.

I hate to see it go, but the amount of money we would need to sustain a succesful space program that could reach the moon and Mars far outweighs the benifits. As I said before, private companies could probably find the value in it. If they can find the value in it, they could find a way to make it self sustaining. Then we may see a resurgence of space exploration, if somebody could find the value in it and make it self sustaining.

A purely government funded program is extremely unlikely anymore, except for maybe China.

Yeah true. I hope something happens, regardless of where it comes from.
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Why don't scientists focus more on living on other planets? they are dropping the ball in this field. so many possibilities alone. not only could we walk aorund and experiment and search for alien life, we could also effectively live twice as long since otheryear take a lot longer likefor instance on earth we can live to 100 but on a cold planet we can live for 200 or maybe 300

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It's not feasible. It's much cheaper to measure things from this distance than to actually try to go there.
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The only way this will happen is if there is a military advantage to it. Thats the only reason we went to the moon, to get the high ground.
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#18 worlock77
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The only way this will happen is if there is a military advantage to it. Thats the only reason we went to the moon, to get the high ground.DaBrainz

There wasn't really any military advantage to going to the Moon, and that's not the reason we went there. The Lunar missions were all about one-upping the Soviets. It was pure political theater. "Yeah, well you may have gotten a guy in orbit first. Big deal. We put a man on the f*cking moon! Top that f*ckers!"*

*I like to imagine that there was a call from the White House to the Kremlin, and that that's how it went.

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Transportation, obviously.
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Bad internet connection
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Well at least this confirms that the same guy's holocaust thread is trolling. [spoiler] Too bad people are going to take it along with this thread seriously anyway. [/spoiler]
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Because the aliens we find on said planets are evil and will destroy us. Watching enough science fiction will convice you of that.

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My God I can't absorb the last part of OP...
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Earth is the best planet thats why
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Basically because space exploration is so expensive that it has to be funded by the government (since there's no profit in it). Governments are elected by voters who don't care about that stuff, and then politicians spend twice as much as they've got anyway, so there's little left for space exploration.

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Dude, living in Uranus would be gross.

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Establishing a colony on the moon would cost trillions of dollars. Much more for Mars. It's just not economically feasible at our current level of technology.

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#28 deactivated-5a457b7beaa88
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because, humans will just destroy another planet.

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US Military Spending:

$711,000,000,000

Nasa Budget:

$17,770,000,000 (1/40th of the military budget)

ESA Budget

$5,400,000,000

That's why

I'm mostly pissed at Europe. Despite higher GDP than the US the EU doesn't even spend a third of what the US spend on Space.

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My God I can't absorb the last part of OP...GazaAli
Yeah that part was kinda...
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Because man made global warming isn't real. We don't need to go to some planet to survive (like in a movie) because we aren't hurting Earth enough.
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The overall expenses outweigh any positive outcomes.
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I think you should just head up the program. You've clearly got the smarts.

[spoiler] If you're trolling you are a very good troll. I lol'd. [/spoiler]

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I think we should focus more on learning to live here first. The last time humans got an impulse to wonder beyond their borders and colonise new frontiers it was a disaster (Europe colonising and practising genocide in the entire world). I think we have to mature first here before wondering more and fvcking things up even further. If we can't grow up maybe we deserve to go extinct.
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Technology is not that evolved.

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I think we should focus more on learning to live here first. The last time humans got an impulse to wonder beyond their borders and colonise new frontiers it was a disaster (Europe colonising and practising genocide in the entire world). I think we have to mature first here before wondering more and fvcking things up even further. If we can't grow up maybe we deserve to go extinct. kuraimen

That is a dumb post, and you probably agree with me. I say we should colonize space before we kill ourselves here. Reduce likelihood of a black swan event wiping us out, etc. You're welcome for me writing your new opinion.

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Because that's stupid.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]I think we should focus more on learning to live here first. The last time humans got an impulse to wonder beyond their borders and colonise new frontiers it was a disaster (Europe colonising and practising genocide in the entire world). I think we have to mature first here before wondering more and fvcking things up even further. If we can't grow up maybe we deserve to go extinct. Brosephus_Rex

That is a dumb post, and you probably agree with me. I say we should colonize space before we kill ourselves here. Reduce likelihood of a black swan event wiping us out, etc. You're welcome for me writing your new opinion.

No thank you. If we are going to be a nasty species better for us to die here quietly than to expand.
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[QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]I think we should focus more on learning to live here first. The last time humans got an impulse to wonder beyond their borders and colonise new frontiers it was a disaster (Europe colonising and practising genocide in the entire world). I think we have to mature first here before wondering more and fvcking things up even further. If we can't grow up maybe we deserve to go extinct. kuraimen

That is a dumb post, and you probably agree with me. I say we should colonize space before we kill ourselves here. Reduce likelihood of a black swan event wiping us out, etc. You're welcome for me writing your new opinion.

No thank you. If we are going to be a nasty species better for us to die here quietly than to expand.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Brosephus_Rex"]

That is a dumb post, and you probably agree with me. I say we should colonize space before we kill ourselves here. Reduce likelihood of a black swan event wiping us out, etc. You're welcome for me writing your new opinion.

Brosephus_Rex

No thank you. If we are going to be a nasty species better for us to die here quietly than to expand.

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