Why is it that the U.S. always gets involved in other foreign countries' affair?

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#1 slamminjammin69
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Why is it everything that on the news more american soldiers die from road bombs or something else overseas? The U.S. has no business whatsoever going overseas to settle other countrie's squabbles like egypt or the middle east.

Let the other countries deal with their own crap instead of having the U.S. military wasting lives going over there all the time

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#2 entropyecho
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If it's one thing the U.S. is good at, it's spreading democracy.

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#3 aransom
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If it's one thing the U.S. is good at, it's spreading democracy.

entropyecho

It worked pretty good in Germany and Japan. You could argue that going to Iraq and Afghanistan wasn't important to national security, but I think it's a stretch to say there's no possible reason to send men overseas ever.

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#4 bacon_is_sweet
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Problem is the U.S. gets almost as much criticism about situations it doesn't enter in, as much as the situations it does enter in. Its a never ending battle.

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#5 th3warr1or
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World Police.
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#6 FragStains
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Once you get invited to a party a few times, you just kind of assume you have an open invitation for future ones.

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#7 cobrax55
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If it's one thing the U.S. is good at, it's spreading democracy.

entropyecho

really? cause they have a terrible track record of installing dictators into power.

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#8 whitetiger3521
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The U.S. is like the daddy of the world, If you are bad you get punished.

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#9 dercoo
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To try to keep ***** from hitting fan.

Heck I wish more nations would get involved and prevent such disasters as Rwanda and Darfur.

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#10 Locutus_Picard
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[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

If it's one thing the U.S. is good at, it's spreading democracy.

cobrax55

really? cause they have a terrible track record of installing dictators into power.

let's not focus on the 20+ dictators America has installed but let's look at the only two things they have done right! :D
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#11 pspdseagle
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The US is like a vulture, it waits, looks into it and then attacks.
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#12 bacon_is_sweet
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Eh, I see it "like father, like son". The British started it so where just kinda pick'n up where they left off. Just imagine though if more and more countries were willing to help the United States in terrible events. It'd be alot easier.

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#13 htekemerald
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If it's one thing the U.S. is good at, it's spreading democracy.

entropyecho
Oh man I think I just fell of my chair I was laughing so hard. US has engineered the downfall a numerous 'liberal' democratic governments over the course of the 20th century.
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#14 greeneye59
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[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

If it's one thing the U.S. is good at, it's spreading democracy.

htekemerald

Oh man I think I just fell of my chair I was laughing so hard. US has engineered the downfall a numerous 'liberal' democratic governments over the course of the 20th century.

Interesting. Who are you referring to?

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#15 tomo90
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Your apart of an international community, you have to be prepared to get involved SOMETIMES. Not always, but sometimes. You get plenty involved in oil deals and desirable imports that you'd want your citizens to profit from which come from the production of other countries, so you can't trade with the international community, get what you want and then pretend your not apart of it.

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#16 Theokhoth
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Sometimes it's in the U.S.'s best interest to interfere. If our allies are attacked, for example, it would be a very bad diplomatic move to ignore them.
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#17 Espada12
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Believe it or not alot of the time governments request help from the US....

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#18 frostybanana
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Team America: World Police!
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#19 Blaminator1221
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The U.S. is like the daddy of the world, If you are bad you get punished.

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Except if you're Russia or China...
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#20 GazaAli
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If it's one thing the U.S. is good at, it's spreading democracy.

entropyecho
yea lol. And TC makes it look like the US is helping people overseas or in the Middle East out of its good heart lol. The best thing about the US intervention is that its officials don't know how to be subtle and discrete, they just show up on TV and act like they own the place.
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#21 kuraimen
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Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.
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#22 Overlord93
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To put them in their place

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Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.kuraimen

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

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#25 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.AFBrat77

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

Or maybe not.
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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.kuraimen

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

Or maybe not.

trust me, you would

You could do far worse then have the U.S. as the big superpower, even if you don't realize it.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

AFBrat77

Or maybe not.

trust me, you would

You could do far worse then have the U.S. as the big superpower, even if you don't realize it.

"Looks at north korea" I don't see anyone else keeping them in check
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.AFBrat77

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

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#29 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

AFBrat77

Or maybe not.

trust me, you would

You could do far worse then have the U.S. as the big superpower, even if you don't realize it.

I think we would be better without the US as a superpower, even if you don't realize it.
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#30 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.aransom

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

Except the US only rounds up and starves to death or sends to oblivion those that don't want to let a McDonalds in their country which is pretty much equivalent.
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#31 AFBrat77
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[QUOTE="aransom"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

kuraimen

Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

Except the US only rounds up and starves to death or sends to oblivion those that don't want to let a McDonalds in their country which is pretty much equivalent.

you have quite a jaded view on the U.S......but so be it.

If you replaced the U.S. as the top superpower in most cases the world would be FAR worse. Very few exceptions.

Be happy you do.

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#32 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="aransom"]Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

AFBrat77

Except the US only rounds up and starves to death or sends to oblivion those that don't want to let a McDonalds in their country which is pretty much equivalent.

you have quite a jaded view on the U.S......but so be it.

If you replaced the U.S. as the top superpower in most cases the world would be FAR worse. Very few exceptions.

How do you know that? I think the world couldn't be in a far worse place as it is now, maybe only if there was a nuclear holocaust or something but we have more social, economical and environmental problems than at any other time in history.
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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.aransom

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

well said, I agree. A police state.

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#34 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Or maybe not.darkfox101

trust me, you would

You could do far worse then have the U.S. as the big superpower, even if you don't realize it.

"Looks at north korea" I don't see anyone else keeping them in check

except you know...China, the only country that they really has any influence over them.

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#35 comp_atkins
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we spend a lot of money on defense.. we might as well be using it for something.
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#36 AFBrat77
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[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

trust me, you would

You could do far worse then have the U.S. as the big superpower, even if you don't realize it.

cobrax55

"Looks at north korea" I don't see anyone else keeping them in check

except you know...China, the only country that they really has any influence over them.

China probably wouldn't have a big problem with North Korea running over South Korea.

But the U.S. keeps that from happening.

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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because they are an empire and as an empire they need to take care of their startegy and influence around the world. They use the term "Freedom" when they want to convince the world they are fighting for a noble cause but, in reality, it is all for their interest. If they were serious about the "Freedom" crap they would have intervened in Egypt now the same way they did in Iraq but since the ruthless anti-democratic dictator in Egypt is a friend of theirs then they do nothing. They even help put friendly anti-democratic dictators in some countries like they did in Latinamerica and Iran.aransom

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

I am pretty sure the Russians ensured most of that.
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Because the US is a superpower that suppose to spread democracy and liberty ....... also, if the US doesn't get involved, people get mad.
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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Or maybe not.kuraimen

trust me, you would

You could do far worse then have the U.S. as the big superpower, even if you don't realize it.

I think we would be better without the US as a superpower, even if you don't realize it.

Definetaly.

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#40 aransom
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[QUOTE="aransom"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

I guarantee if the U.S. wasn't around, the world would be alot more unstable...

then you guys would wish we were around to take care of business again.

muscleserge

Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

I am pretty sure the Russians ensured most of that.

I'm not poo-poo-ing the USSR's efforts in WWII, but we were giving them aid. I once read that without Spam, the Soviet Army would have starved.

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#41 -Big_Red-
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Yeah but, sometmes people get pissy when the U.S doesn't.
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#42 daleerin24
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Because we are nosey?

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#43 muscleserge
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="aransom"]Maybe not. Things would be pretty stable because everyone would be speaking German, except those who were rounded up and sent to the ovens.

aransom

I am pretty sure the Russians ensured most of that.

I'm not poo-poo-ing the USSR's efforts in WWII, but we were giving them aid. I once read that without Spam, the Soviet Army would have starved.

The USSR was paying for said aid, and whatever was bought on credit has been paid off.
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Yeah but, sometmes people get pissy when the U.S doesn't. -Big_Red-

Agreed

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#45 aransom
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[QUOTE="aransom"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"] I am pretty sure the Russians ensured most of that.muscleserge

I'm not poo-poo-ing the USSR's efforts in WWII, but we were giving them aid. I once read that without Spam, the Soviet Army would have starved.

The USSR was paying for said aid, and whatever was bought on credit has been paid off.

I said I wasn't poo-poo-ing. Without the USSR, the allies probably would have lost. Without the US, the allies definitely would have lost.

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#46 l4dak47
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I know. It's goddam annoying. I really wish the U.S. can just back off and take care of itself first. I don't care about any other natiosn out there unless they are important allies or they're attacking us. But then again, we have too many bleeding hearts in the U.S. that demands we help everybody in the world.
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#47 muscleserge
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="aransom"]I'm not poo-poo-ing the USSR's efforts in WWII, but we were giving them aid. I once read that without Spam, the Soviet Army would have starved.

aransom

The USSR was paying for said aid, and whatever was bought on credit has been paid off.

I said I wasn't poo-poo-ing. Without the USSR, the allies probably would have lost. Without the US, the allies definitely would have lost.

Probably? the USSR bared the vast majority of the german war machine, the eastern front brought Germany down, and then the Russians took Berlin. Most historians agree that the USSR alone could have beaten Germany, plus a year of 2.
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#48 Riverwolf007
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Why is it everything that on the news more american soldiers die from road bombs or something else overseas? The U.S. has no business whatsoever going overseas to settle other countrie's squabbles like egypt or the middle east.

Let the other countries deal with their own crap instead of having the U.S. military wasting lives going over there all the time

slamminjammin69

maybe if the u.s. could turn their backs on the world for a decade or two without a worldwar breaking out they would. but yeah even with that going to happen i wish they would.

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#49 BLKR4330
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my view: the US has done a lot of good in the world, for example ww II and in rebuilding post war europe. everyone looked up to that and the US became a role model for many. in a situation like that at some point it is inevitable you will lose your modesty and start acting like people have been seeing and treating you all those years, this is when there is a risk you lose touch with reality and start thinking your way is the best way, should be the only way and everyone should know about it. you can keep this up as long as you have the muscle to back it up but even then your goodwill will decrease over time. lately the muscle seems to be wearing out too so i think the US will retract more and more and slowly lose it's influence and will to get involved. whether this is a good thing or not remains to be seen..

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#50 lancelot200
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The US has foreign policy which needs to be enforce like every country. The difference is that only a select few country can actually unilaterally influence another country.