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I think the main reason is because people are starting to awaken and realize that Obama is not the Messiah.
You'd be hard-pressed to find any one reason why Obama's approval rating is low.
I personally think he's the most ineffective President we've ever had. He keeps promising things, but I don't see any change. Still waiting on him to lower the corporate tax rate and reform the tax code like he said he would in his State of the Union address.
He hasn't really done anything while being in office except playing basketball with NBA stars and filling out the NCAA bracket. Also, the shutdown of the government is also playing a big factor in this too.
Because there is no 9/11 for him to exploit to keep his ratings up.
Netherscourge
He had the largest oil spill in U.S. history and the worst economy since the great depression. Plenty of opportunity. Try harder.
Overall, most presidents approval ratings go down over time.
In this case, as with past presidents, he hasn't lived up to a lot of his promises (whether or not it's solely his fault is open for debate).
- Closing Gitmo
- Not having Lobbyists in his administration
- Increasing transparency (not sure if people have looked at any of the FOFA news articles lately)
Beyond that, now we have this military action in Libya (which seems more and more like a mess with each passing day).
And, of course, regardless of how each side spins 'economic indicators,' the economy is still in the crapper. Or at least any real improvements haven't been felt by most people (at least the ones I know).
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Because there is no 9/11 for him to exploit to keep his ratings up.
moneymatterz
He had the largest oil spill in U.S. history and the worst economy since the great depression. Plenty of opportunity. Try harder.
"Never let a crisis go to waste"- Rahm/Hillary
[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]
Because there is no 9/11 for him to exploit to keep his ratings up.
moneymatterz
He had the largest oil spill in U.S. history and the worst economy since the great depression. Plenty of opportunity. Try harder.
Yes, the oil spill and the economy are really in the same category as 9/11. Try harder.
What poll was the news station using? Because if it was something like Rasmussen, it's probably not very accurate.
Looking at the RCPpoll average, he is at 47.0 approval, 47.1 dissaproval. That is not an all time low. It is what he has been hovering around for awhile.
He hasn't really done anything while being in office except playing basketball with NBA stars and filling out the NCAA bracket. Also, the shutdown of the government is also playing a big factor in this too.
ExoticAnimal
That is BS. Why would you even say something so false? More legislation has been passed in his admistration than any other since Johnson and he has kept or atleast is working on most of his campaign promises.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
Not sure how you feel about Gallup, but this is theirs (45% approve; 47 disapprove). Gallup typically lands more favorably to Obama than Rasmussen.What poll was the news station using? Because if it was something like Rasmussen, it's probably not very accurate.
Looking at the RCPpoll average, he is at 47.0 approval, 47.1 dissaproval. That is not an all time low. It is what he has been hovering around for awhile.
GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]
Because there is no 9/11 for him to exploit to keep his ratings up.
YellowOneKinobi
He had the largest oil spill in U.S. history and the worst economy since the great depression. Plenty of opportunity. Try harder.
"Never let a crisis go to waste"- Rahm/Hillary
Dick Cheney, Vice President:
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." ~Aug. 26, 2002
That was less than a year after 9/11.
Low approval ratings after a controversial election victory? No problem! Find a tangible enemy (because Bin Ladin was impossible to find), rouse up support from an angry post-9/11 public, launch "shock and awe campaign", watch ratings go up.
Everything is based on someone's stupid political agenda. Nothing is based on the needs of the country. Nothing.
Not sure how you feel about Gallup, but this is theirs (45% approve; 47 disapprove). Gallup typically lands more favorably to Obama than Rasmussen.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
What poll was the news station using? Because if it was something like Rasmussen, it's probably not very accurate.
Looking at the RCPpoll average, he is at 47.0 approval, 47.1 dissaproval. That is not an all time low. It is what he has been hovering around for awhile.
YellowOneKinobi
I don't believe that is an all time low.
not what gallup says 45 :) to 47% :(What poll was the news station using? Because if it was something like Rasmussen, it's probably not very accurate.
Looking at the RCPpoll average, he is at 47.0 approval, 47.1 dissaproval. That is not an all time low. It is what he has been hovering around for awhile.
GreySeal9
Not sure how you feel about Gallup, but this is theirs (45% approve; 47 disapprove). Gallup typically lands more favorably to Obama than Rasmussen.[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
What poll was the news station using? Because if it was something like Rasmussen, it's probably not very accurate.
Looking at the RCPpoll average, he is at 47.0 approval, 47.1 dissaproval. That is not an all time low. It is what he has been hovering around for awhile.
GreySeal9
I don't believe that is an all time low.
I wasn't trying to imply that it was. I concur that it has remained basically the same for a while now.Conservatives hate him because he's a Democrat, or because he's black or they think he's a foreigner with a fake birth certificate, or because they think he's uber communist and out to kill your grandma after he gives her a manditory sex change funded by Obamacare followed by a trip to re-education camp to make her gay by telling her gay marriage is fine, so grandma can impregnate grandpa after he got his mandatory sex change and then they abort the baby and after that's done they pull the plug on grandma, then they'll take away peoples guns and put people in FEMA death camps while they let Atheist-Muslims take over the country... and liberals hate Obama because he reaches out to these people.lamprey263and neither side cares anything about what he does or how the country is doing
not what gallup says 45 :) to 47% :([QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
What poll was the news station using? Because if it was something like Rasmussen, it's probably not very accurate.
Looking at the RCPpoll average, he is at 47.0 approval, 47.1 dissaproval. That is not an all time low. It is what he has been hovering around for awhile.
surrealnumber5
So what?
If we look at how he is polling across the board (through averages), it is not an all time low.
I'm not trying to say that his polling is good, but it's notmuch different than what he's been getting since the post-Tucson polling boom faded.
Conservatives hate him because he's a Democrat, or because he's black or they think he's a foreigner with a fake birth certificate, or because they think he's uber communist and out to kill your grandma after he gives her a manditory sex change funded by Obamacare followed by a trip to re-education camp to make her gay by telling her gay marriage is fine, so grandma can impregnate grandpa after he got his mandatory sex change and then they abort the baby and after that's done they pull the plug on grandma, then they'll take away peoples guns and put people in FEMA death camps while they let Atheist-Muslims take over the country... and liberals hate Obama because he reaches out to these people.lamprey263I'm guessing this was said tonge in cheak, but what would any of that have to do with his overall approval rating going down from when he first took office? Apparently a lot of people that DID support him, no longer do so. The people that you're describing always would have hated him.
not what gallup says 45 :) to 47% :([QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
What poll was the news station using? Because if it was something like Rasmussen, it's probably not very accurate.
Looking at the RCPpoll average, he is at 47.0 approval, 47.1 dissaproval. That is not an all time low. It is what he has been hovering around for awhile.
GreySeal9
So what?
If we look at how he is polling across the board (through averages), it is not an all time low.
I'm not trying to say that his polling is good, but it's not radically different than what he's been getting lately.
so it is not 47 to 47, it is not an even split, your numbers were faulty from an unknown source so i provided numbers from a known source."Never let a crisis go to waste"[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]
[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
He had the largest oil spill in U.S. history and the worst economy since the great depression. Plenty of opportunity. Try harder.
Netherscourge
- Rahm/Hillary
Dick Cheney, Vice President:
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." ~Aug. 26, 2002
That was less than a year after 9/11.
Low approval ratings after a controversial election victory? No problem! Find a tangible enemy (because Bin Ladin was impossible to find), rouse up support from an angry post-9/11 public, launch "shock and awe campaign", watch ratings go up.
Everything is based on someone's stupid political agenda. Nothing is based on the needs of the country. Nothing.
I (in large part) agree with your last sentiment.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] Not sure how you feel about Gallup, but this is theirs (45% approve; 47 disapprove). Gallup typically lands more favorably to Obama than Rasmussen.
YellowOneKinobi
I don't believe that is an all time low.
I wasn't trying to imply that it was. I concur that it has remained basically the same for a while now.Yeah, you're right, so it probably wouldn't be useful to find reasons for a change as there really isn't a significant dip.
As long as the economy is sputtering along, his approval ratings will be mediocre.
Because the economy is currently in the toilet.scorch-62Because people say the economy is in the toilet.
Really, the economy could become magically awesome overnight and we wouldn't hear anything about it.
also, HAI SCORCH
I wasn't trying to imply that it was. I concur that it has remained basically the same for a while now.[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
I don't believe that is an all time low.
GreySeal9
Yeah, you're right, so it probably wouldn't be useful to find reasons for a change as there really isn't a significant dip.
As long as the economy is sputtering along, his approval ratings will be mediocre.
I think Libya has the potential to become something. I'm reading about the potential for "boots on the ground" now. I don't think that would go over very well.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] not what gallup says 45 :) to 47% :(
surrealnumber5
So what?
If we look at how he is polling across the board (through averages), it is not an all time low.
I'm not trying to say that his polling is good, but it's not radically different than what he's been getting lately.
so it is not 47 to 47, it is not an even split, your numbers were faulty from an unknown source so i provided numbers from a known source.Real Clear Politics is an unknown source? http://realclearpolitics.com/That is where I got my data. Don't you realize that Gallup is included in the RCP average? :?
It doesn't need to be an even split because the average doesn't work that way. It simply finds the average approval rating and the average dissaproval rating and hey both come up to 47%. Since the averages come from looking at a variety of polls, the average dissaproval/approval ratings don't need to equal 100% relative to eachother.
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I wasn't trying to imply that it was. I concur that it has remained basically the same for a while now.
YellowOneKinobi
Yeah, you're right, so it probably wouldn't be useful to find reasons for a change as there really isn't a significant dip.
As long as the economy is sputtering along, his approval ratings will be mediocre.
I think Libya has the potential to become something. I'm reading about the potential for "boots on the ground" now. I don't think that would go over very well.No, it wouldn't, but I doubt that Obama would authorize it.
so it is not 47 to 47, it is not an even split, your numbers were faulty from an unknown source so i provided numbers from a known source.[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
So what?
If we look at how he is polling across the board (through averages), it is not an all time low.
I'm not trying to say that his polling is good, but it's not radically different than what he's been getting lately.
GreySeal9
Real Clear Politics is an unknown source? http://realclearpolitics.com/That is where I got my data. Don't you realize that Gallup is included in the RCP average? :?
It doesn't need to be an even split because the average doesn't work that way. It simply finds the average approval rating and the average dissaproval rating and hey both come up to 47%. Since the averages come from looking at a variety of polls, the average dissaproval/approval ratings don't need to equal 100% relative to eachother.
this is not SW and using the standard in an average does not make your average credible.I think Libya has the potential to become something. I'm reading about the potential for "boots on the ground" now. I don't think that would go over very well.[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]
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GreySeal9
No, it wouldn't, but I doubt that Obama would authorize it.
I really hope it doesn't go that route, and part of me thinks it will not. However, part of me thinks it will, because it seems like it's becoming a real mess down there.- We (NATO) keep accidentally killing rebels Example because apparently the communication sucks down there.
- We are finding it hard to do this just from the air because now Gadhaffi is using the old "human shield" trick by putting his resources next to schools, mosques, etc.
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] so it is not 47 to 47, it is not an even split, your numbers were faulty from an unknown source so i provided numbers from a known source.
surrealnumber5
Real Clear Politics is an unknown source? http://realclearpolitics.com/That is where I got my data. Don't you realize that Gallup is included in the RCP average? :?
It doesn't need to be an even split because the average doesn't work that way. It simply finds the average approval rating and the average dissaproval rating and hey both come up to 47%. Since the averages come from looking at a variety of polls, the average dissaproval/approval ratings don't need to equal 100% relative to eachother.
this is not SW and using the standard in an average does not make your average credible.And why is the RCP average not credible? What holds it back from being credible? Because yousay so?
What does SW have to do with anything? Is it just cover for the fact that you now have egg on your face for your rather ill-informed comment about there not being an even split or your rather silly comment about my numbers being from an "unknown source".
If you want to look at the overall trend in terms of approval rating, it makes more sense to look at the average.
Overall, look at all the data, his approval ratings are not at an all time low.
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I think Libya has the potential to become something. I'm reading about the potential for "boots on the ground" now. I don't think that would go over very well.
YellowOneKinobi
No, it wouldn't, but I doubt that Obama would authorize it.
I really hope it doesn't go that route, and part of me thinks it will not. However, part of me thinks it will, because it seems like it's becoming a real mess down there.- We (NATO) keep accidentally killing rebels Example because apparently the communication sucks down there.
- We are finding it hard to do this just from the air because now Gadhaffi is using the old "human shield" trick by putting his resources next to schools, mosques, etc.
Yeah, the mission there is not going well at all, but Ican't imagine that Obama is going to risk that now that he has started his 2012 campaign.
People are haters when it comes to politics, doesn't matter if doing an amazing job or a terrible one, ur still gonna get alot of bs.
Yeah, the mission there is not going well at all, but Ican't imagine that Obama is going to risk that now that he has started his 2012 campaign.
GreySeal9
He comes out weak if he refuses to use troops. I don't want him to, but that pretty much destroys all credibility for wanting to go in there for humanitarian reasons.
You mean to tell me President Obama has not fufilled his promises just like 90% of the Presidents before him!? Mind blowing.
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Yeah, the mission there is not going well at all, but Ican't imagine that Obama is going to risk that now that he has started his 2012 campaign.
airshocker
He comes out weak if he refuses to use troops. I don't want him to, but that pretty much destroys all credibility for wanting to go in there for humanitarian reasons.
But this is an international effort, so that takes off some of the pressure to put troops in there.
And I don't think the American people will see not putting troops in as weak. I think that's just how hawkish Republicans will view it. After Iraq and Afghanistan, I doubt the American people really see putting troops in as strength. I think they'll see it as foolishness.
[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]
Because there is no 9/11 for him to exploit to keep his ratings up.
moneymatterz
He had the largest oil spill in U.S. history and the worst economy since the great depression. Plenty of opportunity. Try harder.
yeah but people believe the spill was his fault.But this is an international effort, so that takes off some of the pressure to put troops in there.
And I don't think the American people will see not putting troops in as weak. I think that's just how hawkish Republicans will view it. After Iraq and Afghanistan, I doubt the American people really see putting troops in as strength. I think they'll see it as foolishness.
GreySeal9
When have UN peacekeepers done any good for a country? Aside from getting themselves killed.
The American people will see it as weakness because it undermines the very reason we chose to set up a no-fly zone. We went there as humanitarians. We can't turn around and be indifferent. That's not how America works.
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
But this is an international effort, so that takes off some of the pressure to put troops in there.
And I don't think the American people will see not putting troops in as weak. I think that's just how hawkish Republicans will view it. After Iraq and Afghanistan, I doubt the American people really see putting troops in as strength. I think they'll see it as foolishness.
airshocker
When have UN peacekeepers done any good for a country? Aside from getting themselves killed.
The American people will see it as weakness because it undermines the very reason we chose to set up a no-fly zone. We went there as humanitarians. We can't turn around and be indifferent. That's not how America works.
I was thinking about that as well. Typically when we bomb the hell out of someplace, we are there to help things "get back to normal." Especially since we have had a few friendly fire incidents AND because, like you said, this was supposed to be a humanitarian effort.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] not what gallup says 45 :) to 47% :(
surrealnumber5
So what?
If we look at how he is polling across the board (through averages), it is not an all time low.
I'm not trying to say that his polling is good, but it's not radically different than what he's been getting lately.
so it is not 47 to 47, it is not an even split, your numbers were faulty from an unknown source so i provided numbers from a known source.No, you've just discovered the fact that *gasp* different polls show different results.
For reference, here's his source, which is actually a polling aggregate. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
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