Why is racial profiling not allowed?

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#1 zeppelin6591
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Like at airport security. I am not at all implying that all middle-eastern people are terrorists, but it infuriates me when a 70-year-old woman in front of me gets strip searched and the guy in a turban behind me doesn't. Car insurance companies can charge more to ensure a teenage boy because statistically they get in more accidents. So when, as far as I can remember, 100% of recent US hijacking deaths were due to middle-eastern people, shouldn't we statistically be allowed to pick one out of a line of people and search them without them and every human-rights group whine about it? On the other hand, I don't think every old woman who goes through shouldn't be searched, but I think that security people at airports should be trained to look for traits common among hijackers/bombers, like adults, males, and, unfortunately, or middle-eastern descent or just people who are blatantly foreign in general. What are your thoughts?
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#2 Ranger_x8b
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Car insurance companies can charge more to ensure a teenage boy because statistically they get in more accidents.zeppelin6591

I never knew that males have their own race... 

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#3 Sandro909
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Because it's mean?
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#4 Luncbox1
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I don't think old women being searched is about racial profiling.  It's due to the fact that those security guards are complete dumbasses.
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#5 forgot_it
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They can search whomever they want aslong as they have reasonable beleif...atleast that's what I've been told.
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#6 FancyPantsMcGee
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First of all, racial profiling does happen. A lot. It's not allowed, and it shouldn't be. But it does happen, especially at airports.

And not all plane plane hi-jackings have been caused by Middle Easterners.

(Actually, come to think of it I don't know for a fact that it's not allowed.)

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#7 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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If middle eastern terrorists were to hijack another plane, do your really think they would come dressed in turbans and robes?
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Because it is generalizing and assuming the actions of a group are the same as the actions of a few. It is very wrong. If they are going to search then they should search everyone.
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#9 postulio14
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I see what you're getting at, but the problem is that some of the airport security people are just stupid.
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#10 Silver_Dragon17
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I agree.
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#11 Kage1
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Because it is generalizing and assuming the actions of a group are the same as the actions of a few. It is very wrong. If they are going to search then they should search everyone.foxhound_fox
Exactly.
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#12 SolidSnake35
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I agree. It makes sense to do so.
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#13 linkthewindow
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Lets look at it from another POV. We all know that some gamers are commiting acts of violence (don't deny it) but that is less then 1%. What if, they all started to search all gamers, then, imagine the backlash. Its the same with racial profiling.
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#14 jrhawk42
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I'll admit random searches don't really work but racial profiling is probably even worse in larger sense.

The major problem with racial profiling is once it's enacted dumbass security guards go on a power trip and assume that since they are told to search this person they must be guilty.  It's sad but true.

If you tell security that a person is picked at random they tend to treat the person kindly and they are sort of empathetic to the hassle.

If you tell security that a person fits a profile then security treats them like a criminal eventhough the person is just as innocent as everybody else.

You can train your staff all you want but if you profile they are going to unfairly treat those that fit the profile. 

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#15 OfficialJab
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Too true.
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#16 MattUD1
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Because not all terrorists are "middle-eastern looking". There are white terrorists, black terrorists, asian terrorists. :)  Singling out one group is absolute nonsense. 
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#17 Aura_Twilight
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Because I'm middle-eastern and being profiled like that is wrong this is common sense people...
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turban+no luggage=no
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#19 lovemenow
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obviously you never watched the golden girls...them grannys are hiding something
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#20 zeppelin6591
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Lets look at it from another POV. We all know that some gamers are commiting acts of violence (don't deny it) but that is less then 1%. What if, they all started to search all gamers, then, imagine the backlash. Its the same with racial profiling. linkthewindow

Well lets say 20% of shooters have videogames in their home on the day they kill someone, and play them avidly. That is much less than the percentage of people who hijack planes and are blatantly muslim or middle-eastern. And as for the "they would take their turbans off", think about why these people suicide bomb. They fanatically follow their religion who, according to their interpretation, orders them to kill infidels (the rest of the world). The same religion is the reason their turbans are typically worn and their beards are typically long. If they are willing to kill/die for something, I doubt they would be willing to change their appearance if doing so contradicted it. I DO NOT think that even .001% of devout muslims or even middle easterners in general would ever commit a terrorist act, and infact the number of white males likely to do the same thing is probably higher. The thing is that I have read stories of people suing or making a scene over being searched, and I think that while they have every right to be, they should also look at the facts and see where others are coming from. I think that the idea behind my post was poorly illustrated by me. 

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#21 videogamer456
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Slippery Slop from there and only getting worse.
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#22 solidsnakeEx3
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It's wrong.  Guess what?  Not all terrorists are Middle Eastern.  There are some American ones, and they've existed for a very long time. 

 

I hate  how people think terrorism as something new, after 9/11. 

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#23 zeppelin6591
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Slippery Slop from there and only getting worse.videogamer456

Actually, I hadn't thought about it that way. Look at smokers. First, we make it so they can't smoke in planes, then not in restaurants, then not near restaurants. I wouldn't be surprised if it was one day illegal because they gave us an inch and non-smokers took a mile. The difference is that I am fine with that happening to smokers (no offense). I can picture the South and paranoid white people continuing so that soon middle-easterners can't ride planes at all, and then one day they aren't even allowed in the country, which would be horrible. I feel a lot different about my opinion after reading this comment. 

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#24 nonsoville2
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Because I'm middle-eastern and being profiled like that is wrong this is common sense people...Aura_Twilight
OMG! Teh terrorist *runs away* :cry:

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#25 Quack_Attack
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There's a very good reason to search old women. Anyone can pretend to be a nice guy by "carrying" their bag for them.
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#26 Dismemba
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Okay people PAY ATTENTION, i am only gonna type this once ....

If you distinguish people by race, you are a RACIST - end of story ... :p