Why is wrong to make fun of fat people...?

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Why don't we make fun of people who can't use proper sentence syntax, spelling and punctuation such as yourself? It's their own fault for being either uneducated or lazy.

Also, if you make fun of them, it might motivate them to use proper sentence structure and educate themselves. So by making fun of those ignorant of English and it's rules, the world can be a more intelligent place.

br0kenrabbit

*points and laughs mercilessly*

Apostrophes show possession.

It's sad, considering all the thought and effort he put into formulating this brilliant scheme to better our society.

bangell99

I know, such a shame. Well, "A" for effort, no?

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

No, I just find your post hypocritical :) As well as ilogical for measuring somebody's intelligence over their grammar and spelling on a gaming forum.

br0kenrabbit

Grammar and spelling follow you. If you spell and write well, you have to make an effort to do otherwise.

Good grammarians don't become fools just because they hit the web forums.

No, but they become lazy, hence all the badly written acronyms on the internet.

Eg:

lol should be LOL or L.O.L. to be grammatically correct.

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Why don't we make fun of people who can't use proper sentence syntax, spelling and punctuation such as yourself? It's their own fault for being either uneducated or lazy.

Also, if you make fun of them, it might motivate them to use proper sentence structure and educate themselves. So by making fun of those ignorant of English and it's rules, the world can be a more intelligent place.

br0kenrabbit

*points and laughs mercilessly*

Apostrophes show possession.

Actually, in this one instance, "it's" means "it is", and "its" is the proper way of showing possession.

Thats what I thought too, but English decided to confuse me when it comes to "it". :evil:

Teenaged

Yesh basically but only to the fat ones. I seriously think it would make the world healthier. They will just go home cry and start working out lmao.

MrLikesFat

I think you need to look at Pianist's post.

Bullying and harassment almost never has a positive effect. It's not to improve the world.

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Why don't we make fun of people who can't use proper sentence syntax, spelling and punctuation such as yourself? It's their own fault for being either uneducated or lazy.

Also, if you make fun of them, it might motivate them to use proper sentence structure and educate themselves. So by making fun of those ignorant of English and it's rules, the world can be a more intelligent place.

br0kenrabbit

*points and laughs mercilessly*

Apostrophes show possession.

"It's" is a contraction if it is. If I write "its rules," then the phrase is correct, as 'its' relates to "English's rules." If I write "the emu's rules," then the apostrophe is correct, and the phrase relates to the emu. I think that's where the confusion lies.

You should use 'its' in this case. Don't worry, though - I agree with your point. Just playin' with ya.

[QUOTE="bangell99"]

It's sad, considering all the thought and effort he put into formulating this brilliant scheme to better our society.

Dark_Knight6

I know, such a shame. Well, "A" for effort, no?

Yeah, I guess the "special students" need to feel valued as well. I award the TC a high A for his efforts.

Again, what if english isn't said person's mother tongue?

skelebull3000

That's outside the point entirely. What if the overweight person he's making fun of was born without a properly working metabolism? It's the same as saying what if they were born elsewhere (that doesn't speak English).

Seriously, give what you read a little more contextual though.

[QUOTE="MrLikesFat"]

Yesh basically but only to the fat ones. I seriously think it would make the world healthier. They will just go home cry and start working out lmao.

metroidfood

I think you need to look at Pianist's post.

Bullying and harassment almost never has a positive effect. It's not to improve the world.

Again, what if english isn't said person's mother tongue?

skelebull3000

Does it matter? The point is that it's not a good thing to make fun of people over anything - be it their weight, their intellect, or anything else. Doing so is uncompassionate and selfish. If you want to help someone, you offer courteous, constructive criticism. You don't "make fun" of them so that they "go home and cry" like this fool is advocating.

Again, brokenrabbit was NOT actually advocating that we make fun of people for writing poorly. He was using that as an example of something for which we could ridicule the OP, so that he would understand how foolish it would be to humiliate fat people in public.

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

[QUOTE="MrLikesFat"]

Yesh basically but only to the fat ones. I seriously think it would make the world healthier. They will just go home cry and start working out lmao.

MrLikesFat

Here's a tip: don't become a psychologist.

Dont worry im not, i am already a half way thru to my Doctors degree in pharmacy

Yea right. I really doubt it, more over you sound like you are 14 years old. Not to mention, your posting like your winning a game or somthing with proving your opinion.

Making fun of people isn't morally right. Yes, it could be the fat person's fault for being fat but maybe it's because of physlogical problems, or it reminds them of a friend or family member, or that they can't control themselves. It's not like making fun of them is going to solve anything.

How would you like it if you were made fun of? Some people take action, but some can't.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]

*points and laughs mercilessly*

pianist

Apostrophes show possession.

"It's" is a contraction if it is. If I write "its rules," then the phrase is correct, as 'its' relates to "English's rules." If I write "the emu's rules," then the apostrophe is correct, and the phrase relates to the emu. I think that's where the confusion lies.

You should use 'its' in this case. Don't worry, though - I agree with your point. Just playin' with ya.

The use of an apostrophe isn't strictly regulated to contractions, possessions use apostrophies as well. Read the link I hit you with, I'm correct.

The same way I could say:

'Keith's going crazy.' Using the apostrophe to denote a contraction of 'Keith is'.

I can also say "Keith's watch isn't working." Using the apostrophe to show posession.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

[QUOTE="MrLikesFat"]

Yesh basically but only to the fat ones. I seriously think it would make the world healthier. They will just go home cry and start working out lmao.

Toriko42

I think you need to look at Pianist's post.

Bullying and harassment almost never has a positive effect. It's not to improve the world.

Well it dosen't work for everyone. Some people go into a depression, or eat more, or even sucide. Making fun of someone rarely has postive affects.

What kind of a moronic question is that? Why the hell does someone deserve to get the piss taken out of them because they eat a lot and don't exercise, being fat isn't exactly pleasent and they risk heart disease and diabetes. Not to mention a lot of fat people do actually try and lose weight. I'm sorry TC, but you're really immature.

Oh, and as for 'it helps motivate them to lose weight' there are better ways to motivate someone than calling them a fat **** like actually encouraging them to do exercise, supportively. That is if you care, but if you're like the guy who made this topic you probably don't and should just keep your mouth shut.

MrLikesFat has some point, I went from 5'6 and 175 pounds to 6'0 and 130 pounds because of insults. It works but it was damaging to me, really damaging. It's better then being fat but I live with that crap everyday. Toriko42

It probably also would have worked if you had encouragement and understood the medical problems involved instead of being humiliated for it. All you need is for someone you respect to tell you he thinks you should lose weight (or decide YOU want to do it on your own), and you'll do it. Insults are just mean-spirited. And beyond that, their intention is to derive pleasure from someone else's humiliation. No one insults another person with the purpose of helping him. Insults are hurled because a lot of people take distinct pleasure in making other people feel rotten about themselves. It's one of the many despicable qualities of the human condition.

The use of an apostrophe isn't strictly regulated to contractions, possessions use apostrophies as well. Read the link I hit you with, I'm correct.

The same way I could say:

'Keith's going crazy.' Using the apostrophe to denote a contraction of 'Keith is'.

I can also say "Keith's watch isn't working." Using the apostrophe to show posession.

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Apostrophes show possession.

br0kenrabbit

"It's" is a contraction if it is. If I write "its rules," then the phrase is correct, as 'its' relates to "English's rules." If I write "the emu's rules," then the apostrophe is correct, and the phrase relates to the emu. I think that's where the confusion lies.

You should use 'its' in this case. Don't worry, though - I agree with your point. Just playin' with ya.

The use of an apostrophe isn't strictly regulated to contractions, possessions use apostrophies as well. Read the link I hit you with, I'm correct.

The same way I could say:

'Keith's going crazy.' Using the apostrophe to denote a contraction of 'Keith is'.

I can also say "Keith's watch isn't working." Using the apostrophe to show posession.

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

Again, what if english isn't said person's mother tongue?

br0kenrabbit

That's outside the point entirely. What if the overweight person he's making fun of was born without a properly working metabolism? It's the same as saying what if they were born elsewhere (that doesn't speak English).

Seriously, give what you read a little more contextual though.

It isn't outside the point at all. The latest point that has been made is that intelligence can be measured through grammar and spelling which is an incorrect statement.

PS: We have a choice in the style and way we write. We speak in different ways depending on the situation we find ourselves in. Obese people usually never have that choice since they can't lose weight as easily as we can change writing styles. That's why the analogy is flawed.

The use of an apostrophe isn't strictly regulated to contractions, possessions use apostrophies as well. Read the link I hit you with, I'm correct.

The same way I could say:

'Keith's going crazy.' Using the apostrophe to denote a contraction of 'Keith is'.

I can also say "Keiths' watch isn't working." Using the apostrophe to show posession.

br0kenrabbit

The use of the contraction in "it's" and "its" is one of those many "English exceptions." Your link actually doesn't address its and it's at all.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

The use of an apostrophe isn't strictly regulated to contractions, possessions use apostrophies as well. Read the link I hit you with, I'm correct.

The same way I could say:

'Keith's going crazy.' Using the apostrophe to denote a contraction of 'Keith is'.

I can also say "Keith's watch isn't working." Using the apostrophe to show posession.

mfp16

Well, I minored in English studies. 'It's' follows all the same rules.

There are deviations that people think are de facto rules, like the way people use 'marks' and puncuation. The puncuation should come outside the 'marks' but everyone puts them inside the 'marks'. This is wrong, but you can blame C+ and such for that.

It isn't outside the point at all. The latest point that has been made is that intelligence can be measured through grammar and spelling which is an incorrect statement.

PS: We have a choice in the style and way we write. We speak in different ways depending on the situation we find ourselves in. Obese people usually never have that choice since they can't lose weight as easily as we can change writing styles. That's why the analogy is flawed.

skelebull3000

But why are you even discussing this when the whole point of his post was to demonstrate how silly it is to make fun of people for trivial things?

[QUOTE="mfp16"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

The use of an apostrophe isn't strictly regulated to contractions, possessions use apostrophies as well. Read the link I hit you with, I'm correct.

The same way I could say:

'Keith's going crazy.' Using the apostrophe to denote a contraction of 'Keith is'.

I can also say "Keith's watch isn't working." Using the apostrophe to show posession.

br0kenrabbit

Well, I minored in English studies. 'It's' follows all the same rules.

There are deviations that people think are de facto rules, like the way people use 'marks' and puncuation. The puncuation should come outside the 'marks' but everyone puts them inside the 'marks'. This is wrong, but you can blame C+ and such for that.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]MrLikesFat has some point, I went from 5'6 and 175 pounds to 6'0 and 130 pounds because of insults. It works but it was damaging to me, really damaging. It's better then being fat but I live with that crap everyday. pianist

It probably also would have worked if you had encouragement and understood the medical problems involved instead of being humiliated for it. All you need is for someone you respect to tell you he thinks you should lose weight (or decide YOU want to do it on your own), and you'll do it. Insults are just mean-spirited. And beyond that, their intention is to derive pleasure from someone else's humiliation. No one insults another person with the purpose of helping him. Insults are hurled because a lot of people take distinct pleasure in making other people feel rotten about themselves. It's one of the many despicable qualities of the human condition.

Well, I minored in English studies. 'It's' follows all the same rules.

There are deviations that people think are de facto rules, like the way people use 'marks' and puncuation. The puncuation should come outside the 'marks' but everyone puts them inside the 'marks'. This is wrong, but you can blame C+ and such for that.

br0kenrabbit

Then why do we have "its" at all? What's the difference between "its" and "it's?"

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

Again, what if english isn't said person's mother tongue?

skelebull3000

That's outside the point entirely. What if the overweight person he's making fun of was born without a properly working metabolism? It's the same as saying what if they were born elsewhere (that doesn't speak English).

Seriously, give what you read a little more contextual though.

It isn't outside the point at all. The latest point that has been made is that intelligence can be measured through grammar and spelling which is an incorrect statement.

PS: We have a choice in the style and way we write. We speak in different ways depending on the situation we find ourselves in. Obese people usually never have that choice since they can't lose weight as easily as we can change writing styles. That's why the analogy is flawed.

Yes, it is completely outside the point, because the whole point, which I will illustrate for you here because you seem to lack basic contextual comprehension, was to pick something the OP could be faulted for and turn his post around on him.

You seem to be the only one here incapable of getting that from my post.

I know that, I'm first hand proof though of the benefits and negatives of it though. I still see counselors all the time though about what I had to go throughToriko42

I'm sorry to hear that. And that, my friend, is why I will never condone bullying, regardless of the fact that you MAY derive positive benefits from it. The same can be accomplished without bullying.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Well, I minored in English studies. 'It's' follows all the same rules.

There are deviations that people think are de facto rules, like the way people use 'marks' and puncuation. The puncuation should come outside the 'marks' but everyone puts them inside the 'marks'. This is wrong, but you can blame C+ and such for that.

pianist

Then why do we have "its" at all? What's the difference between "its" and "it's?"

Because apostrophes for possession aren't very popular, but they are correct.

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

That's outside the point entirely. What if the overweight person he's making fun of was born without a properly working metabolism? It's the same as saying what if they were born elsewhere (that doesn't speak English).

Seriously, give what you read a little more contextual though.

br0kenrabbit

It isn't outside the point at all. The latest point that has been made is that intelligence can be measured through grammar and spelling which is an incorrect statement.

PS: We have a choice in the style and way we write. We speak in different ways depending on the situation we find ourselves in. Obese people usually never have that choice since they can't lose weight as easily as we can change writing styles. That's why the analogy is flawed.

Yes, it is completely outside the point, because the whole point, which I will illustrate for you here because you seem to lack basic contextual comprehension, was to pick something the OP could be faulted for and turn his post around on him.

You seem to be the only one here incapable of getting that from my post.

You need to learn how to discuss with people without questioning their intelligence. >_> That's what I'm saying, in a nutshell. And yes, I'm that petty when I'm bored.

Aside from the fact that it's immature to make fun of anyone for any reason...well, just try being in a fat person's shoes and you'll see.

I know that, I'm first hand proof though of the benefits and negatives of it though. I still see counselors all the time though about what I had to go throughToriko42

If you don't mind my asking, how did you go about loosing the weight? Did you use healthy or unhealthy methods?

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Why don't we make fun of people who can't use proper sentence syntax, spelling and punctuation such as yourself? It's their own fault for being either uneducated or lazy.

Also, if you make fun of them, it might motivate them to use proper sentence structure and educate themselves. So by making fun of those ignorant of English and it's rules, the world can be a more intelligent place.

*points and laughs mercilessly*

Apostrophes show possession.

So you basically would be an idiot in English too if you had not minored in English studies. What you think everyone minors in that?

Heres what i have to say in that case, you are an idiot cuz u dont know names of all the drugs but i do cuz i am going to be a pharmacist.

MrLikesFat

Actually, I do have a biochemestry degree. :P I just chose to use my IT degree instead.

Wanna talk about amides and their salts? Do you even know what amides are, and why they are so important?

When is it ever right to make fun of someone?SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Well, I minored in English studies. 'It's' follows all the same rules.

There are deviations that people think are de facto rules, like the way people use 'marks' and puncuation. The puncuation should come outside the 'marks' but everyone puts them inside the 'marks'. This is wrong, but you can blame C+ and such for that.

br0kenrabbit

Then why do we have "its" at all? What's the difference between "its" and "it's?"

Because apostrophes for possession aren't very popular, but they are correct.

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Well, I minored in English studies. 'It's' follows all the same rules.

There are deviations that people think are de facto rules, like the way people use 'marks' and puncuation. The puncuation should come outside the 'marks' but everyone puts them inside the 'marks'. This is wrong, but you can blame C+ and such for that.

br0kenrabbit

Then why do we have "its" at all? What's the difference between "its" and "it's?"

Because apostrophes for possession aren't very popular, but they are correct.

When I see "St. Pauls Church," it immediately looks wrong to me. That one should have the apostrophe to indicate possession. But Paul's and it's are two different words. Are you absolutely certain about this? If so, it's the first I've heard of it. I have never seen (in professional writing) "it's" used in place of "its." As far as I know, "it's" and "its" are not subject to the same rules, but are (like many things in English) exceptions to the general rule.

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Well, I minored in English studies. 'It's' follows all the same rules.

There are deviations that people think are de facto rules, like the way people use 'marks' and puncuation. The puncuation should come outside the 'marks' but everyone puts them inside the 'marks'. This is wrong, but you can blame C+ and such for that.

br0kenrabbit

Then why do we have "its" at all? What's the difference between "its" and "it's?"

Because apostrophes for possession aren't very popular, but they are correct.

It's wrong to make fun of anybody.

That doesn't mean it's not funny :P

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]

Then why do we have "its" at all? What's the difference between "its" and "it's?"

mfp16

Because apostrophes for possession aren't very popular, but they are correct.

And I'll say: "Prove it". All you've got now is hearsay. I just Googled "Special rule for it's" and got no relevant results.

i'm not touching this one

Chris_Williams