Why isn't Rick Santorum under trial for hate speech?

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I'm really curious about this. In a normal country where anti-discrimination laws are properly enforced, this guy should already be in jail, yet he's running for fcking president?!
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#2 IustitiaMaximus
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This isn't the UK.

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I don't see any "discrimination".

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#4 Pirate700
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Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

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#5 kingkong0124
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Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Pirate700
Because he's conservative and Christian, essentially.
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#6 Heisenderp
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I don't see any "discrimination".

kingkong0124

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Pirate700
Are you fcking serious? He said that gay marriage was tantamount to bestiality and pedophilia.
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#7 Heisenderp
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

kingkong0124
Because he's conservative and Christian redneck who discriminates minorities based on a primitive book, essentially.

I wonder why you left that part out. You know, the most important one?
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I don't see any "discrimination".

Heisenderp

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Pirate700

Are you fcking serious? He said that gay marriage was tantamount to bestiality and pedophilia.

Okay? Why should be be on trail for that? Do you not have freedom of speech wherever you're from?

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I don't see any "discrimination".

Heisenderp

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Pirate700

Are you fcking serious? He said that gay marriage was tantamount to bestiality and pedophilia.

He has a right to say that whether or not people agree with it. Jailing people for hurting other people's feelings is simply fascist.

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#10 The-Apostle
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Why isn't Westboro Baptist Church under trial for hate speech?

Fixed the title for you. >_>

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I'm really curious about this. In a normal country where anti-discrimination laws are properly enforced, this guy should already be in jail, yet he's running for fcking president?!Heisenderp
People are not arrested for saying hateful things in the USA
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Why isn't Westboro Baptist Church under trial for hate speech? Now THAT would be a better topic!The-Apostle
No it wouldn't be.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Why isn't Westboro Baptist Church under trial for hate speech? Now THAT would be a better topic!Pirate700

No it wouldn't be.

Why not?
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Heisenderp
Because he's conservative and Christian redneck who discriminates minorities based on a primitive book, essentially.

I wonder why you left that part out. You know, the most important one?

Hate speech....hypocrite.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

kingkong0124

Because he's conservative and Christian, essentially.

Exactly, racism is very much alive today and bigotry is rampant in the south... I know because I live in South.

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#17 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Why isn't Westboro Baptist Church under trial for hate speech? Now THAT would be a better topic!The-Apostle

No it wouldn't be.

Why not?

Because they shouldn't be on trial for speaking their mind? Being stupid or insane isn't a crime nor should it be.

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Banjo_Kongfooie

Because he's conservative and Christian, essentially.

Exactly, racism is very much alive today and bigotry is rampant in the south... I know because I live in South.

I've lived in the South as well, and to tell you the truth, that's a load of BS. People from the South support Christian values and don't care about race. Just look at Herman Cain's popularity surge.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Why isn't Westboro Baptist Church under trial for hate speech? Now THAT would be a better topic!The-Apostle

No it wouldn't be.

Why not?

Why do you want to erode freedom?
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I don't see any "discrimination".

Heisenderp

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Pirate700

Are you fcking serious? He said that gay marriage was tantamount to bestiality and pedophilia.

That's his opinion. You may disagree but that's perfectly legal to say here in the States.

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Hate speech isn't a crime in the US, but I have a hard time believe he said anything of the kind.

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[QUOTE="Heisenderp"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] [QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Pirate700

Are you fcking serious? He said that gay marriage was tantamount to bestiality and pedophilia.

Okay? Why should be be on trail for that? Do you not have freedom of speech wherever you're from?

Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech "In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, as with libel, slander, obscenity and incitement to commit a crime." "Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others" or "[f]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals"."
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#23 Heisenderp
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Hate speech isn't a crime in the US, but I have a hard time believe he said anything of the kind.

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yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.
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[QUOTE="Heisenderp"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] [QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?

Wasdie

Are you fcking serious? He said that gay marriage was tantamount to bestiality and pedophilia.

That's his opinion. You may disagree but that's perfectly legal to say here in the States.

I'm confused...are there really countries in the "free" world where you aren't allowed to be racist?

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#25 Banjo_Kongfooie
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Because he's conservative and Christian, essentially. kingkong0124

Exactly, racism is very much alive today and bigotry is rampant in the south... I know because I live in South.

I've lived in the South as well, and to tell you the truth, that's a load of BS. People from the South support Christian values and don't care about race. Just look at Herman Cain's popularity surge.

That does not prove anything, I have witnessed quite alot of racism.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] Are you fcking serious? He said that gay marriage was tantamount to bestiality and pedophilia.Pirate700

That's his opinion. You may disagree but that's perfectly legal to say here in the States.

I'm confused...are there really countries in the "free" world where you aren't allowed to be racist?

The UK for one...

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Hate speech isn't a crime in the US, but I have a hard time believe he said anything of the kind.

Heisenderp

yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]No it wouldn't be.

LJS9502_basic

Why not?

Why do you want to erode freedom?

I never said I did. I was joking. I think TC might be serious though... :?

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Exactly, racism is very much alive today and bigotry is rampant in the south... I know because I live in South.

Banjo_Kongfooie

I've lived in the South as well, and to tell you the truth, that's a load of BS. People from the South support Christian values and don't care about race. Just look at Herman Cain's popularity surge.

That does not prove anything, I have witnessed quite alot of racism.

Anecdotal evidence....awesome.:roll:
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#30 Banjo_Kongfooie
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[QUOTE="Heisenderp"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Hate speech isn't a crime in the US, but I have a hard time believe he said anything of the kind.

Pirate700

yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

So we do not get another Adolf Hitler Something the GOP seems dangerously close to bringing us imo.

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#31 IustitiaMaximus
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Because he's conservative and Christian, essentially. kingkong0124

Exactly, racism is very much alive today and bigotry is rampant in the south... I know because I live in South.

I've lived in the South as well, and to tell you the truth, that's a load of BS. People from the South support Christian values and don't care about race. Just look at Herman Cain's popularity surge.

I too live in the south and would say racism hereis minimal and blown WAY out of proportion.

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Hate speech isn't a crime in the US, but I have a hard time believe he said anything of the kind.

Heisenderp
yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.

Personally I think the laws in the UK are ridiculous and extreme and love the free speech we have in the USA. To each their own though I suppose
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[QUOTE="Heisenderp"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Hate speech isn't a crime in the US, but I have a hard time believe he said anything of the kind.

Pirate700

yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

Wow, really? I can't fcking believe that people are sick enough to think that. Does freedom mean you can rape and kill anybody you want? There are limitations to every right.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Why not?The-Apostle

Why do you want to erode freedom?

I never said I did. I was joking. I think TC might be serious though... :?

TC is a hypocrite that displays hate toward some groups and gets angry when others do it.
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#35 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

That's his opinion. You may disagree but that's perfectly legal to say here in the States.

LJS9502_basic

I'm confused...are there really countries in the "free" world where you aren't allowed to be racist?

The UK for one...

That's absurd. The UK is starting to get rediculous in what isn't allowed there.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.Heisenderp

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

Wow, really? I can't fcking believe that people are sick enough to think that. Does freedom mean you can rape and kill anybody you want? There are limitations to every right.

Raping and killing have absolutely nothing in common with someone saying something you happen to disagree with.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Exactly, racism is very much alive today and bigotry is rampant in the south... I know because I live in South.

IustitiaMaximus

I've lived in the South as well, and to tell you the truth, that's a load of BS. People from the South support Christian values and don't care about race. Just look at Herman Cain's popularity surge.

I too live in the south and would say racism hereis minimal and blown WAY out of proportion.

Just because President Obama was elected president does not mean racism is over... It was a significant accomplishment that we should feel proud of but to deny racism especially in the south is ludicrous.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.Heisenderp

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

Wow, really? I can't fcking believe that people are sick enough to think that. Does freedom mean you can rape and kill anybody you want? There are limitations to every right.

And with that you've proven you cannot talk logically about the topic.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Exactly, racism is very much alive today and bigotry is rampant in the south... I know because I live in South.

Banjo_Kongfooie

I've lived in the South as well, and to tell you the truth, that's a load of BS. People from the South support Christian values and don't care about race. Just look at Herman Cain's popularity surge.

That does not prove anything, I have witnessed quite alot of racism.

Yes that does. If the people of the south, who are largely republican, are willing to vote for a black man to become president of the U.S. then how are they considered racist?
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.Heisenderp

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

Wow, really? I can't fcking believe that people are sick enough to think that. Does freedom mean you can rape and kill anybody you want? There are limitations to every right.

Rape is not speech, genius. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.Banjo_Kongfooie

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

So we do not get another Adolf Hitler Something the GOP seems dangerously close to bringing us imo.

Only a fool advocates the restrictions of freedom...something Hitler did by the way. Learn from history.....
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I've lived in the South as well, and to tell you the truth, that's a load of BS. People from the South support Christian values and don't care about race. Just look at Herman Cain's popularity surge. kingkong0124

That does not prove anything, I have witnessed quite alot of racism.

Yes that does. If the people of the south, who are largely republican, are willing to vote for a black man to become president of the U.S. then how are they considered racist?

They didn't vote for him...

The South is still pretty damn racist.

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Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?Pirate700
Haha, what a dumb typ-
Okay? Why should be be on trail for that? Do you not have freedom of speech wherever you're from?Pirate700
Holy sh*t, you really are that thick

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#44 Banjo_Kongfooie
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

That does not prove anything, I have witnessed quite alot of racism.

Wasdie

Yes that does. If the people of the south, who are largely republican, are willing to vote for a black man to become president of the U.S. then how are they considered racist?

They didn't vote for him...

The South is still pretty damn racist.

Especially when you look at the fact that his poll numbers dropped when he was accused of having sex with "white" women... Something they have no problem with Newt for factually not allegedly doing.

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#45 Heisenderp
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Why do you want to erode freedom?LJS9502_basic

I never said I did. I was joking. I think TC might be serious though... :?

TC is a hypocrite that displays hate toward some groups and gets angry when others do it.

The only difference is that the people I hate are insulting a large amount of people for no reason other than their mental retardation.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Wait...what? Why should he be on trail?MannyDelgado

Haha, what a dumb typ-
Okay? Why should be be on trail for that? Do you not have freedom of speech wherever you're from?Pirate700
Holy sh*t, you really are that thick

So you want words and opinions to be illegal?

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I'm really curious about this. In a normal country where anti-discrimination laws are properly enforced, this guy should already be in jail, yet he's running for fcking president?!Heisenderp
Because this is America......We can say whatever we want.....Our first admendment.

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yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.Heisenderp

No it's not. Most of us value freedom.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] yeah I just read that, my bad. It's still stupid that it's the only developed country where it isn't.Banjo_Kongfooie

Why should hate speech be illegal? Do you not see the irony in that?

So we do not get another Adolf Hitler Something the GOP seems dangerously close to bringing us imo.

Comparing Santorum to Hitler now? Classy.
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#50 MannyDelgado
Member since 2011 • 1187 Posts
So you want words and opinions to be illegal?Wasdie
I'm not sure how you infer that from my taking the p*ss out of Pirate for being unable to spell