Cant there be a ww3 without america? people just assume this nation will be at the forefront of this future conflict.
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Cant there be a ww3 without america? people just assume this nation will be at the forefront of this future conflict.
the future is a long time.It wouldn't be a WORLD war without the big players. Who said we are going to have a ww3 anyway ?
nohabs
Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resourcesAnarchy4hire82Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberation
Can't there just not be a world war III?bean-with-baconwar is inevitable. when sides are taken... certain events happen. history always repeats itself
[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]Can't there just not be a world war III?swiftkillz0war is inevitable. when sides are taken... certain events happen. history always repeats itself Well then you wanna hope America is on the same side as your country, also history wont be repeating itself much more after WW3, seriously why is everyone obsessed with having a war?
Too late. The Illuminati already has plans.I plan on starting it, so America's involvement is pretty much guaranteed.
Oleg_Huzwog
im just doinf my part to make ot great. someone has to create topics for youAre you trying to max out your new topic limit or something?
Guybrush_3
Can't there just not be a world war III?bean-with-baconNo. I already have "I survived WW3" t-shirts.
Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.
Damn , I spent good money on my t-shirts.Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.
ReubenFTW
Damn , I spent good money on my t-shirts.dave123321
Well, I guess that means that you DID survive World War III. Good job, man.
[QUOTE="ReubenFTW"]Damn , I spent good money on my t-shirts. Well, you could cross out the "I" part, and write "The atoms that currently make up my body, which existed throughout the duration of time that the Universe existed" and cross out "WW3" and write "every war in history, even the Clone Wars, technically speaking."Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.
dave123321
whats crazy about ww3 is that china russia cuba and iran are making deals for uranium for iran to build a nuklear facilty. oh and north korea has ties with them to so if ww3 happens its just the usa japan and europe as allies
Just? China and Russia against all the worlds' best armies. I don't know what kind of threat Cuba is, lol.whats crazy about ww3 is that china russia cuba and iran are making deals for uranium for iran to build a nuklear facilty. oh and north korea has ties with them to so if ww3 happens its just the usa japan and europe as allies
Tazzmission187
I'm not sure we'll be "dragged" in this time. The two places I see World War III starting from are: North Korea (and China?) vs. South Korea, Japan. OR Iran, Syria, (with Hezbollah in both Palestine and Lebanon) vs. Israel. In either case we'll have to defend our allies.If it's a WW3, it will probably be like WW2 where America is dragged into the war.
Squall18
[QUOTE="Squall18"]I'm not sure we'll be "dragged" in this time. The two places I see World War III starting from are: North Korea (and China?) vs. South Korea, Japan. OR Iran, Syria, (with Hezbollah in both Palestine and Lebanon) vs. Israel. In either case we'll have to defend our allies. dont forget pakistan and the talibanIf it's a WW3, it will probably be like WW2 where America is dragged into the war.
remmbermytitans
Well, you could cross out the "I" part, and write "The atoms that currently make up my body, which existed throughout the duration of time that the Universe existed" and cross out "WW3" and write "every war in history, even the Clone Wars, technically speaking." jaydoughSounds like a plan :)
[QUOTE="Anarchy4hire82"]Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resourcesKamekazi_69Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberation
It's because US controls a quarter of the world, which poses a threat to other nations. Us had always been known at joining the war near the end taking over places.
At the time the Americans got into World War 2:So they could remain neutral until the tide of the war turns and then supply the winning side with equipment to profit.
Or was that WW2?
T_P_O
Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberation[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Anarchy4hire82"]Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resourcesMakemap
It's because US controls a quarter of the world, which poses a threat to other nations. Us had always been known at joining the war near the end taking over places.
Hmm... By my estimates, we only controlI hate to say this but america sticks its face in every countries problem no matter how small, so if there was a WW3 she would definitly jump in with both feet. It would be nice if we played neutral. It would show courage and be a lesson for other countries. It would be wonderful. However, america will NEVER be neutral. It sucks to say.
What about in the genocide in Darfur?I hate to say this but america sticks its face in every countries problem no matter how small, so if there was a WW3 she would definitly jump in with both feet. It would be nice if we played neutral. It would show courage and be a lesson for other countries. It would be wonderful. However, america will NEVER be neutral. It sucks to say.
Morphic
[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"][QUOTE="Squall18"]I'm not sure we'll be "dragged" in this time. The two places I see World War III starting from are: North Korea (and China?) vs. South Korea, Japan. OR Iran, Syria, (with Hezbollah in both Palestine and Lebanon) vs. Israel. In either case we'll have to defend our allies. dont forget pakistan and the taliban Actually, I think Pakistan is a few steps away from falling apart. And with India next door, they're waiting for any chance to "get revenge" for Mumbai. A weakening Pakistan just makes the whole mid-east region that much more dangerous.If it's a WW3, it will probably be like WW2 where America is dragged into the war.
Tazzmission187
\he Germans were not in Moscow, they only got to a few outlying suburbs which put moscow in artillery range. The Soviet winter offensive of 1941 pulled Moscow out of Hitler's hands forever and shattered the world's view of Germany's absolute military supremecy. A year later, Stalingrad was retaken leaving the entire 6th army to die by january 1943. After this, Russia had turned the tables on Germany who could only now fight a vicious rear guard action as it got pounded westward. In the West, England's general Montgomery had begun beating back Rommel's Afrika Corps. While America provided a huge boost both in manpower, air power, and manufacturing, it is incorrect to say that the Allies weren't doing too well without America's entry into the war. So you can thank Russia's nearly 30 million dead soldiers and civilians for Nazi Germany's defeat. I seem to remember America leaving Berlin for the Russians because the US couldn't support the number of casualties that the battle would create. Anarchy4hire82Actually, I think America purposedly let the Russians take Berlin because Russia wanted revenge for when Hitler backstabbed Stalin.
i dont think proxy wars alone count as a world war. if theres another world war, it would be called 3Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.
ReubenFTW
Another war? Why...? for another dumb cause!? I don't think another war isnecessary for the world, butrebellion against thestates, I vote for this!Wait and see what the poor andmiserable people will do to America if things stay the same for people that cant live life the way they want. They will unite and fight each other. Its what mankind is meant to do no matter the nationality or country! Lets see what you'll do when this day comes!!! But thats just me I could be wrong, and this message would be nothing more then a false statement.
Actually, I think America purposedly let the Russians take Berlin because Russia wanted revenge for when Hitler backstabbed Stalin. WHile the US and UK let the Russians take Berlin for a symbolic win, The Soviet Union lost a million men going for the city, could you imagine the US losing a million men for one city! Eisenhower and Churchill clearly knew the stakes. And speaking of Hitler's and Stalin's "nonaggression pact", both countries knew it was a joke when they signed it, Stalin only thought that he had more time before war broke out between them after Germany and the USSR invaded Poland in Sept.1939[QUOTE="Anarchy4hire82"]\he Germans were not in Moscow, they only got to a few outlying suburbs which put moscow in artillery range. The Soviet winter offensive of 1941 pulled Moscow out of Hitler's hands forever and shattered the world's view of Germany's absolute military supremecy. A year later, Stalingrad was retaken leaving the entire 6th army to die by january 1943. After this, Russia had turned the tables on Germany who could only now fight a vicious rear guard action as it got pounded westward. In the West, England's general Montgomery had begun beating back Rommel's Afrika Corps. While America provided a huge boost both in manpower, air power, and manufacturing, it is incorrect to say that the Allies weren't doing too well without America's entry into the war. So you can thank Russia's nearly 30 million dead soldiers and civilians for Nazi Germany's defeat. I seem to remember America leaving Berlin for the Russians because the US couldn't support the number of casualties that the battle would create. remmbermytitans
[QUOTE="Makemap"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberationjaydough
It's because US controls a quarter of the world, which poses a threat to other nations. Us had always been known at joining the war near the end taking over places.
Hmm... By my estimates, we only controlYou forgot to add in all the money we spend importing from other countries.
Well, you could cross out the "I" part, and write "The atoms that currently make up my body, which existed throughout the duration of time that the Universe existed" and cross out "WW3" and write "every war in history, even the Clone Wars, technically speaking." jaydough
My apologies for the braindump, I've been reading up about that subject recently and it kinda just exploded all out of my head and onto the keyboard.
In my defence I did say it was a sidenote ;-p
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