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#1 swiftkillz0
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Cant there be a ww3 without america? people just assume this nation will be at the forefront of this future conflict.

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#2 Squall18
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If it's a WW3, it will probably be like WW2 where America is dragged into the war.

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#3 nohabs
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It wouldn't be a WORLD war without the big players. Who said we are going to have a ww3 anyway ?

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#4 Anarchy4hire82
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Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resources
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#5 swiftkillz0
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It wouldn't be a WORLD war without the big players. Who said we are going to have a ww3 anyway ?

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Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resourcesAnarchy4hire82
Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberation
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#7 bean-with-bacon
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Can't there just not be a world war III?
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#8 swiftkillz0
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Can't there just not be a world war III?bean-with-bacon
war is inevitable. when sides are taken... certain events happen. history always repeats itself
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#9 Oleg_Huzwog
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I plan on starting it, so America's involvement is pretty much guaranteed.

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[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]Can't there just not be a world war III?swiftkillz0
war is inevitable. when sides are taken... certain events happen. history always repeats itself

Well then you wanna hope America is on the same side as your country, also history wont be repeating itself much more after WW3, seriously why is everyone obsessed with having a war?
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#11 MetroidPrimePwn
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We were involved in the past two, we need to be in the third one to keep our combo multiplier.

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#12 thepwninator
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I plan on starting it, so America's involvement is pretty much guaranteed.

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#13 TwiztidJoker
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I don't see another world war happening for a while, but any likely scenario seems to involve China, Iran, and Russia, so it would seem America's involvement is inevitable.
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#14 kemar7856
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america was dragged into both world wars in ww1 they entered in 1916 and in ww2 it was in 1941

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#15 Guybrush_3
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Are you trying to max out your new topic limit or something?

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America doesn't know how to mind its bussiness. Of course we will be there at some point. Especially if there is oil there.
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#17 swiftkillz0
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Are you trying to max out your new topic limit or something?

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Can't there just not be a world war III?bean-with-bacon
No. I already have "I survived WW3" t-shirts.
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Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.

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Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.

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Damn , I spent good money on my t-shirts.
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Damn , I spent good money on my t-shirts.dave123321

Well, I guess that means that you DID survive World War III. Good job, man.

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#22 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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Well, I hear the North Koreans are up to no good. Let's start

World War III

Or,

Korean War 2: Electric boogaloo.
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#23 Joker_268
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I plan on starting it, so America's involvement is pretty much guaranteed.

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Too late. The Illuminati already has plans.

what he said.

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Well the US isn't really the type of country that would stand by and be neutral, even if they weren't at the fore frount they would be involved
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#25 Blackviperr
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WW3 was announced alredy ? :shock: :P
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[QUOTE="ReubenFTW"]

Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.

dave123321
Damn , I spent good money on my t-shirts.

Well, you could cross out the "I" part, and write "The atoms that currently make up my body, which existed throughout the duration of time that the Universe existed" and cross out "WW3" and write "every war in history, even the Clone Wars, technically speaking."
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whats crazy about ww3 is that china russia cuba and iran are making deals for uranium for iran to build a nuklear facilty. oh and north korea has ties with them to so if ww3 happens its just the usa japan and europe as allies

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#28 TwiztidJoker
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whats crazy about ww3 is that china russia cuba and iran are making deals for uranium for iran to build a nuklear facilty. oh and north korea has ties with them to so if ww3 happens its just the usa japan and europe as allies

Tazzmission187
Just? China and Russia against all the worlds' best armies. I don't know what kind of threat Cuba is, lol.
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#29 bsman00
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Cant there be a ww3 without america? people just assume this nation will be at the forefront of this future conflict.

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Why do u assume there will be another ww?...
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If it's a WW3, it will probably be like WW2 where America is dragged into the war.

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I'm not sure we'll be "dragged" in this time. The two places I see World War III starting from are: North Korea (and China?) vs. South Korea, Japan. OR Iran, Syria, (with Hezbollah in both Palestine and Lebanon) vs. Israel. In either case we'll have to defend our allies.
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#31 Tazzmission187
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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

If it's a WW3, it will probably be like WW2 where America is dragged into the war.

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I'm not sure we'll be "dragged" in this time. The two places I see World War III starting from are: North Korea (and China?) vs. South Korea, Japan. OR Iran, Syria, (with Hezbollah in both Palestine and Lebanon) vs. Israel. In either case we'll have to defend our allies.

dont forget pakistan and the taliban
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#32 hokies1313
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Well for a World War, you have to involve, oh I don't know THE WORLD, or atleast the major players in the world, which the United States is. Without the U.S. you just get European War 203948203948234 or Asian War 42690, not a global war.
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Well, you could cross out the "I" part, and write "The atoms that currently make up my body, which existed throughout the duration of time that the Universe existed" and cross out "WW3" and write "every war in history, even the Clone Wars, technically speaking." jaydough
Sounds like a plan :)

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#34 LeePearce
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Why the hell would anybody want a WW3 seeing as they wouldn't survive?
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So they could remain neutral until the tide of the war turns and then supply the winning side with equipment to profit.

Or was that WW2?

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[QUOTE="Anarchy4hire82"]Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resourcesKamekazi_69
Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberation

It's because US controls a quarter of the world, which poses a threat to other nations. Us had always been known at joining the war near the end taking over places.

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So they could remain neutral until the tide of the war turns and then supply the winning side with equipment to profit.

Or was that WW2?

T_P_O
At the time the Americans got into World War 2:
The Germans were in Moscow.
France had been taken over.
Japan occupied much of China and the Pacific.
Germans occupied much of North Africa.

Somehow I don't think the Allied troops were winning too much at that time.
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[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Anarchy4hire82"]Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resourcesMakemap

Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberation

It's because US controls a quarter of the world, which poses a threat to other nations. Us had always been known at joining the war near the end taking over places.

Hmm... By my estimates, we only control

4.525222551928784% of the population on earth.

1.9271789080757225% of the earth's surface area.

6.599973143547737% of the earth's surface area (If you only count land)

And 60% of the humans in space.
Not really a quarter.
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I hate to say this but america sticks its face in every countries problem no matter how small, so if there was a WW3 she would definitly jump in with both feet. It would be nice if we played neutral. It would show courage and be a lesson for other countries. It would be wonderful. However, america will NEVER be neutral. It sucks to say.

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I hate to say this but america sticks its face in every countries problem no matter how small, so if there was a WW3 she would definitly jump in with both feet. It would be nice if we played neutral. It would show courage and be a lesson for other countries. It would be wonderful. However, america will NEVER be neutral. It sucks to say.

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What about in the genocide in Darfur?
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[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

If it's a WW3, it will probably be like WW2 where America is dragged into the war.

Tazzmission187
I'm not sure we'll be "dragged" in this time. The two places I see World War III starting from are: North Korea (and China?) vs. South Korea, Japan. OR Iran, Syria, (with Hezbollah in both Palestine and Lebanon) vs. Israel. In either case we'll have to defend our allies.

dont forget pakistan and the taliban

Actually, I think Pakistan is a few steps away from falling apart. And with India next door, they're waiting for any chance to "get revenge" for Mumbai. A weakening Pakistan just makes the whole mid-east region that much more dangerous.
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"At the time the Americans got into World War 2:
The Germans were in Moscow.
France had been taken over.
Japan occupied much of China and the Pacific.
Germans occupied much of North Africa.

Somehow I don't think the Allied troops were winning too much at that time. "

The Germans were not in Moscow, they only got to a few outlying suburbs which put moscow in artillery range. The Soviet winter offensive of 1941 pulled Moscow out of Hitler's hands forever and shattered the world's view of Germany's absolute military supremecy. A year later, Stalingrad was retaken leaving the entire 6th army to die by january 1943. After this, Russia had turned the tables on Germany who could only now fight a vicious rear guard action as it got pounded westward. In the West, England's general Montgomery had begun beating back Rommel's Afrika Corps. While America provided a huge boost both in manpower, air power, and manufacturing, it is incorrect to say that the Allies weren't doing too well without America's entry into the war. So you can thank Russia's nearly 30 million dead soldiers and civilians for Nazi Germany's defeat. I seem to remember America leaving Berlin for the Russians because the US couldn't support the number of casualties that the battle would create.
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\he Germans were not in Moscow, they only got to a few outlying suburbs which put moscow in artillery range. The Soviet winter offensive of 1941 pulled Moscow out of Hitler's hands forever and shattered the world's view of Germany's absolute military supremecy. A year later, Stalingrad was retaken leaving the entire 6th army to die by january 1943. After this, Russia had turned the tables on Germany who could only now fight a vicious rear guard action as it got pounded westward. In the West, England's general Montgomery had begun beating back Rommel's Afrika Corps. While America provided a huge boost both in manpower, air power, and manufacturing, it is incorrect to say that the Allies weren't doing too well without America's entry into the war. So you can thank Russia's nearly 30 million dead soldiers and civilians for Nazi Germany's defeat. I seem to remember America leaving Berlin for the Russians because the US couldn't support the number of casualties that the battle would create. Anarchy4hire82
Actually, I think America purposedly let the Russians take Berlin because Russia wanted revenge for when Hitler backstabbed Stalin.

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Side note - It has been strongly argued by historians that WW3 already happened. It was between the US and USSR/China and was fought via proxy in the southern hemosphere. The US supported all the rightwing forces (Argentina, Niceragua, Talibna etc) and the USSR/China supported the leftwing forces (Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc). It went on untill the mid 80's, clocking up more deaths than WW1 & WW2, and was ended when the USSR/China could no longer financially support their armies (which for the USSR meant a colapse of the Soviet Union and for China a need to turn to increased capitalism). Both sides, scared **** about a nuclear exchange, spent a lot of time and PR on making it look like it wasn't happening. And as noone in their respective countries were dying, or the countries being invaded, they managed to keep it out of the public eye. So technically, if you subscribe to that theory, what you're refering to is WW4.

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i dont think proxy wars alone count as a world war. if theres another world war, it would be called 3
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Of course America would be involved. This country salivates at the thought of killing foreigners with our trillion dollar weapons systems (oops, I mean liberating them) and taking their resourcesAnarchy4hire82
Yay for racism.
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#46 destructionZERO
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Another war? Why...? for another dumb cause!? I don't think another war isnecessary for the world, butrebellion against thestates, I vote for this!Wait and see what the poor andmiserable people will do to America if things stay the same for people that cant live life the way they want. They will unite and fight each other. Its what mankind is meant to do no matter the nationality or country! Lets see what you'll do when this day comes!!! But thats just me I could be wrong, and this message would be nothing more then a false statement.

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The USA is so integral to global politics, economics, technology and military advancement -- that a WWIII without the US would be very unlikely.
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[QUOTE="Anarchy4hire82"]\he Germans were not in Moscow, they only got to a few outlying suburbs which put moscow in artillery range. The Soviet winter offensive of 1941 pulled Moscow out of Hitler's hands forever and shattered the world's view of Germany's absolute military supremecy. A year later, Stalingrad was retaken leaving the entire 6th army to die by january 1943. After this, Russia had turned the tables on Germany who could only now fight a vicious rear guard action as it got pounded westward. In the West, England's general Montgomery had begun beating back Rommel's Afrika Corps. While America provided a huge boost both in manpower, air power, and manufacturing, it is incorrect to say that the Allies weren't doing too well without America's entry into the war. So you can thank Russia's nearly 30 million dead soldiers and civilians for Nazi Germany's defeat. I seem to remember America leaving Berlin for the Russians because the US couldn't support the number of casualties that the battle would create. remmbermytitans

Actually, I think America purposedly let the Russians take Berlin because Russia wanted revenge for when Hitler backstabbed Stalin.

WHile the US and UK let the Russians take Berlin for a symbolic win, The Soviet Union lost a million men going for the city, could you imagine the US losing a million men for one city! Eisenhower and Churchill clearly knew the stakes. And speaking of Hitler's and Stalin's "nonaggression pact", both countries knew it was a joke when they signed it, Stalin only thought that he had more time before war broke out between them after Germany and the USSR invaded Poland in Sept.1939
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#49 MikeV54
Member since 2006 • 1135 Posts

[QUOTE="Makemap"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Speak for yourself. There isn't a WWIII yet, you can't assume things without knowing the cause of the war, and the USA was dragged into both Wars, technically a form of liberationjaydough

It's because US controls a quarter of the world, which poses a threat to other nations. Us had always been known at joining the war near the end taking over places.

Hmm... By my estimates, we only control

4.525222551928784% of the population on earth.

1.9271789080757225% of the earth's surface area.

6.599973143547737% of the earth's surface area (If you only count land)

And 60% of the humans in space.
Not really a quarter.

You forgot to add in all the money we spend importing from other countries.

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#50 ReubenFTW
Member since 2008 • 174 Posts

Well, you could cross out the "I" part, and write "The atoms that currently make up my body, which existed throughout the duration of time that the Universe existed" and cross out "WW3" and write "every war in history, even the Clone Wars, technically speaking." jaydough

My apologies for the braindump, I've been reading up about that subject recently and it kinda just exploded all out of my head and onto the keyboard.

In my defence I did say it was a sidenote ;-p