Why must I apoligize for being white?

NOTE: I understand this was on Carlos Mencia not too long ago, but believe me I have made similar threads on other forums long before the airing of that show.

Now, to move on.

THIS IS NOT A RACIST THREAD, DON'T TURN IT INTO ONE!

Why am I expected to feel sorry for what my ancestors did to Africans 400 years ago.

Why does part of the taxes I pay go towards reparations for the Indians.

Why am I racist when I say illegal immigrants should not be able to get jobs in America.

Why am I "ignorant" for thinking this?

Why am I supposed to take racism from African Americans, but when I retaliate, I am the one who is a racist.

Just wondering what you guys think. I have posted this many times on many forums and I always get a split response.

I am not a racist, I simply think that everybody in the world should be treated equally. Whats in the past is in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now. So why is there so much hate?

Your thoughs;

LoL, your entire speech reminded me of Edward Norton in the beginning of American History X...

GREAT movie btw

sry i have nothing relevent to say, as this topic along with anything dealing with religion and politics are the most cliche topics on OT.

Life is unfair.

As for my opinion, regardless of who spouts racist comments (White, Black, Middle Eastern, Asian, Europian, African) deserves a good retaliation.

I know I don't HAVE to, thats not the point.

Im trying to say that I don't understand why I am viewed as a racist because I don't feel guilty for slavery, etc...

its a double standard.

Whites can be racist towards blacks but not the other way around

I know I don't HAVE to, thats not the point.

Im trying to say that I don't understand why I am viewed as a racist because I don't feel guilty for slavery, etc...

SHARTEN

Because people are ridiculous, that's why. As far as I'm concerned recognizing what a tragedy slavery was is all that's important. If someone's father was a rapist would you blame the son? No. Dont' worry about it man. If someone still feels the need to place blame in the present for historic events that's they're problem. **** em.

its a double standard.

Whites can be racist towards blacks but not the other way around

skullkrusher13

I don't recognize that standard. I don't accept racism from anyone.

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I know I don't HAVE to, thats not the point.

Im trying to say that I don't understand why I am viewed as a racist because I don't feel guilty for slavery, etc...

Schwah

Because people are ridiculous, that's why. As far as I'm concerned recognizing what a tragedy slavery was is all that's important. If someone's father was a rapist would you blame the son? No. Dont' worry about it man. If someone still feels the need to place blame in the present for historic events that's they're problem. **** em.

That's exactly what I was trying to say. It's the problems of the people who are labelling you racist...not yours.

Well it just kind of makes me mad..

Blacks use slavery as a sympathy thing when really, how much does it affect them. If they were truly that hurt by it, why do they try to act like badasses instead of being hurt when somebody brings it up?

Well it just kind of makes me mad..

Blacks use slavery as a sympathy thing when really, how much does it affect them. If they were truly that hurt by it, why do they try to act like badasses instead of being hurt when somebody brings it up?

SHARTEN

Watch Eddie Murphy's "Delirious" to hear that exact situation.

I must admitI absolutely detest that my tax dollars to to reparations for natives...I feel its pretty ridiculous. And discussing that with others, I have been labeled a racist so I know how you feel.

It's called reverse racism/reverse discrimination.

I feel ya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

It's called reverse racism/reverse discrimination.

I feel ya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

Panzer-schreck

It isn't reverse racism...just racism.

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It's called reverse racism/reverse discrimination.

I feel ya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

Fortier

It isn't reverse racism...just racism.

I know...reverse racism is racism...it's just a term for the minority oppressing the majority.

U should feel sorry for what ur ancestors did to Africans,,,,,,, unless you think that its right to kidnap people and force them into slavery. How can you not say that it was wrong and feel that it was bad? Your taxes go to Native Americans because the U.S. gov owes them what they took away, and fortunately (ur not unfortunate) ur a U.S. citizen or resident. Ur not racist for saying stuff about illegals, if somebody calls u on that, then they are wrong. Unless u start insulting the "race" and culture of certain illegal immigrants. U should not take racism from nobody!Cesb02

I'm not apologizing for something I never did. That and not feeling bad for what happened to blacks are entirely different concepts.

As far as natives go, they got off lucky as far as history goes. Native's land wasn't stolen...the natives were conquered. It happens all the time in history, and it's happened in history where those who have been conquered in such a manner and had their existence wiped from the face of the Earth for it. I've no recollection of an occurence in history where the conquered have been treated as well as they are now...

I agree, We pay the Aboriginals money for something that happened to their ancestors and all they do is drink it away. I think the government should at least monitor or restrict what they can spend it onWhicker89

Because white people are stupid. They let minorities hustle them and manipulate them with mind games. They want something for nothing and they know how to make the stupid whiteman dance.

Just go up to some black guy and demand compensation, a new stereo and a new car from him because he's black. Some guy who happened to be black broke into your home assaulted you, stole your stereo then took your cartherefore anyone whom is black is responisible for that simply because they havethe same skin color as thehooligan. You want your reparations form anyone whom matches the physical description of the individuals(s) that commited the crime.

That's all it really is. Demanding something from someone based on their race or appearance. "Hey you! *me?* Yeah, you, give me stuff. *What? Why?* Cause you're white."

Nobody owes them anything.But white people are affraid of empty accusations. They're too affraid to say "FU, STFU, I don't owe you anything. I'm not gonna be held hostage by a hustler."

Compensation is given to people that deserve it, people that have been abused.So why does a presently existing person deserve compensation for something that doesn't concern them? They weren't there so it doesn't apply to them. TheyDON'T deserve anything. If they lived in the past they would, but unless they have a time machine they don't have a right to anything.

A hustler doesn't give up until their hustle pays up. It's a swindle. Do you know how mind games work? Most people are easy to fool, it's just the way are, because they never the entire picture. So it's to exploit their emotions and their logic. They manipulate people with a facade or theatrical BS. The intent is not to convincerather to confuse them.

You don't have to apologize. I'm proud to be white. It's awesome. Schwah

Yeah me to

You don't have to apologize. I'm proud to be white. It's awesome. Schwah

Easy to say it here, but its almost arrestable to say it in reality. If a black guy says black power, its empowering and encoraging, but if a white guy changes black to white, he's a KKK member, even if he wishes to use the same message as the black guy. Unfair.

you're not "ignorant", you're "ignent"

who has their own holiday and channel?.....u mean blacks?......if u do then because they are citizens of the United States and helped make this the best nation in the world.Cesb02

yet white people don't have their own channel...

NOTE: I understand this was on Carlos Mencia not too long ago, but believe me I have made similar threads on other forums long before the airing of that show.

Now, to move on.

THIS IS NOT A RACIST THREAD, DON'T TURN IT INTO ONE!

Why am I expected to feel sorry for what my ancestors did to Africans 400 years ago.

Why does part of the taxes I pay go towards reparations for the Indians.

Why am I racist when I say illegal immigrants should not be able to get jobs in America.

Why am I "ignorant" for thinking this?

Why am I supposed to take racism from African Americans, but when I retaliate, I am the one who is a racist.

Just wondering what you guys think. I have posted this many times on many forums and I always get a split response.

I am not a racist, I simply think that everybody in the world should be treated equally. Whats in the past is in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now. So why is there so much hate?

Your thoughs;

SHARTEN

Everyone is slightly racist people, when you see an African American, or a Hispanic, the first thing you notice before anything else, is that he/she is different. Same as when they look at you. People still think as a people, not a person. And until we can see past the color at first glance, we'll always have that "racist" slogan over our head, Weather white, black, Hispanic, Indian, or Asian.

As for the whole feeling sorry for what peoples ancestors did, thats complete and utter bulls***. Unless said person is inspiring hatred towards other races, he has no ties to what people from 400 - 500 years ago did. Said person wasnt on the reservation cracking the whip, nor is he standing here today ready to lash out at other races. And anyone that think people should feel sorry for their ancestors actions needs to wake up.

Now, I'm the least racist person i know, I believe that everyone is the same, no matter how different they really are, BUT, When some black wannabe gangster comes up and calls me a cracker, I will quickly throw the N word back at him, The way I see it racism is a 2 way street, if you want to be treated with respect, then treat people with respect, that simple.

Our main problem is that these days is that people use racism as a crutch, if they get fired from a job, its automatically cause the boss was racist, if they get arrested, racism, and so on and so forth. Now obviously this isnt speaking for everyone, but many people use racism to explain every bad thing that happens to them, and I honestly think people like that should never leave the house, because their just a waste to society.

Now, I'm 80% Indian (Cherokee) so I should know best about racism, and remembering ones ancestors, But, I dont look back to when the Indian peoples were forced onto reservations, I wasnt there, so why should I feel discriminated against if I didnt even partake in their hardships? Why should I claim I was being discriminated against, when I never truely was? My people were yes, but I'm not my people, I am a person. ;)

That my friends is the difference between thinking as a people, and thinking as a person.

NOTE: I understand this was on Carlos Mencia not too long ago, but believe me I have made similar threads on other forums long before the airing of that show.

Now, to move on.

THIS IS NOT A RACIST THREAD, DON'T TURN IT INTO ONE!

Why am I expected to feel sorry for what my ancestors did to Africans 400 years ago.

Why does part of the taxes I pay go towards reparations for the Indians.

Why am I racist when I say illegal immigrants should not be able to get jobs in America.

Why am I "ignorant" for thinking this?

Why am I supposed to take racism from African Americans, but when I retaliate, I am the one who is a racist.

Just wondering what you guys think. I have posted this many times on many forums and I always get a split response.

I am not a racist, I simply think that everybody in the world should be treated equally. Whats in the past is in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now. So why is there so much hate?

Your thoughs;

SHARTEN

FAIL!!!

NOTE: I understand this was on Carlos Mencia not too long ago, but believe me I have made similar threads on other forums long before the airing of that show.

Now, to move on.

THIS IS NOT A RACIST THREAD, DON'T TURN IT INTO ONE!

Why am I expected to feel sorry for what my ancestors did to Africans 400 years ago.

Why does part of the taxes I pay go towards reparations for the Indians.

Why am I racist when I say illegal immigrants should not be able to get jobs in America.

Why am I "ignorant" for thinking this?

Why am I supposed to take racism from African Americans, but when I retaliate, I am the one who is a racist.

Just wondering what you guys think. I have posted this many times on many forums and I always get a split response.

I am not a racist, I simply think that everybody in the world should be treated equally. Whats in the past is in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now. So why is there so much hate?

Your thoughs;

SHARTEN

Coming from a public school, the general black pop. threw around more race based names in a week than I have in my entire life. Too many of them try and mimic the "gangsta" style that fuels a lot of the fear and racism that's still around.

From elementary school till past highschool I'v always been one of the very few white guys around. I'v had years where I was one of two or three white children in the entire class, I knew there were double standerds that i could never get away with but for the most part I never had much of a problem because I was white.

The problem mostly comes from the older adults of both the black and white races, the ones who are afraid of offending anyone to the point of ridiculous amounts of over political correctness, the ones who think Jessy Jackson is the king of black people, and the ones who still have seeded racial issues from childhood.