Why people are atheists / agnostic.

isnt that amazing.

Cute, but I'm agnostic because I doubt god exists but can't prove it. I can only presume god to be a fanciful character in a magical world full of bull doo, but I can't prove it so therefore I must give god the benefit of the doubt.

If a god was necessary to create us... what created god? And what created god's creator? It all must start somewhere. Andit's more likely that life just started.

A better question is... Why does anything exist? I guess because life found a way. The cells that make up life forms are what built the living being we see today. We are just nature'smachinery.

... I'm all out of cookies, son.calibretto1

My web browser has plenty that I don't need.

Because it is the responsibility of the believers to provide proof of their claims. Everybody is born an Atheist by default. Then you're misled and lied to as a child. If the lies take root you become a theist. Alternatively you can make up your own lies and believe in them. Self-delusion is actually often easier. Agnostics are simply closet theists.

So, next time you ask somebody "why don't you believe in my god", don't be offended if they say "Show me the proof for your ludicrous claims, I'm listening. No proof = you are a nutcase"

I don't like Religion Threads.

The number of people that completely misunderstood the joke here is priceless...

Do you people honestly believe a devout Christian would post this?

I don't like Religion Threads.

fax555241

I don't like trolls, but I'm going to bet you care as much about what I don't like as I do about what you don't like.

The number of people that completely misunderstood the joke here is priceless...

Do you people honestly believe a devout Christian would post this?

SpaceMoose

... because God doesn't exsist.

/thread

God died in 1986

Looks like your joke = failed.-Montauk-

Looks like you haven't been around the forums long enough to get it.

Either that, or...nice alt account.

[QUOTE="-Montauk-"] Looks like your joke = failed.SpaceMoose

Looks like you haven't been around the forums long enough to get it.

Either that, or...nice alt account.

I've been around these forums probably longer than you have and I still didnt get it. He's right your joke failed, that is to all but the presumed in-crowd.

[QUOTE="fax555241"]

I don't like Religion Threads.

SpaceMoose

I don't like trolls, but I'm going to bet you care as much about what I don't like as I do about what you don't like.

Most of us have heard this 'lame' joke before. Nonetheless many choose to answer the thread title seriously to give substance to your otherwise 'trollish' thread on account of people actually to make this forum work as a forum and not some troll repository.

Cute, but I'm agnostic because I doubt god exists but can't prove it. I can only presume god to be a fanciful character in a magical world full of bull doo, but I can't prove it so therefore I must give god the benefit of the doubt.

If a god was necessary to create us... what created god? And what created god's creator? It all must start somewhere. Andit's more likely that life just started.

A better question is... Why does anything exist? I guess because life found a way. The cells that make up life forms are what built the living being we see today. We are just nature'smachinery.

MagnumPI

No, the burden of proof is with the believers, not you. You have nothing to prove. You are either atheist or theist, choose one.

For the sake of ending this thread, refer to www.godisimaginary.com

But you probably won't read that stuff out of childish fear. The sign of a true Christian.

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

Cute, but I'm agnostic because I doubt god exists but can't prove it. I can only presume god to be a fanciful character in a magical world full of bull doo, but I can't prove it so therefore I must give god the benefit of the doubt.

If a god was necessary to create us... what created god? And what created god's creator? It all must start somewhere. Andit's more likely that life just started.

A better question is... Why does anything exist? I guess because life found a way. The cells that make up life forms are what built the living being we see today. We are just nature'smachinery.

Gangans

No, the burden of proof is with the believers, not you. You have nothing to prove. You are either atheist or theist, choose one.

Take a good look at the definition of agnostic and understand. Just because you THINK doesn't mean you know. This is why you would be an awful lawyer. You don't aknowledge the difference between what you think, what you know, what you think you know and what you can prove. You just want to believe.

Belief is not knowledge. Belief is illusion, delusion, adesire, a wish, a hope. According to logic god doesn't exist. But because I have no tangible proof to prove itdoesn't I can'tconclude he doesn't. I don't have proof, I have assumption and only idiot would acknowledge an assumption.

The existance of gods is improbable, but not proven. I'm not thiest nor athiest because it's all assumption and hope. I'm not dreamer. I don't believe, because I don't wan to believe. I WANT TO KNOW. I like reality, not fantasy. Realisticly the notion of deity is inconclusive.

I don't believe in deity. I think it's all a fantasy, but I can't prove it. Therefore I am agnostic. I don't belive, but what can I prove?

Because it is the responsibility of the believers to provide proof of their claims. Everybody is born an Atheist by default. Then you're misled and lied to as a child. If the lies take root you become a theist. Alternatively you can make up your own lies and believe in them. Self-delusion is actually often easier. Agnostics are simply closet theists.

So, next time you ask somebody "why don't you believe in my god", don't be offended if they say "Show me the proof for your ludicrous claims, I'm listening. No proof = you are a nutcase"

Gangans

This man answered for me. :o

I'll add that we are atheists/agnostics because to us, the idea of a god is silly.

It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.Total-KO

I thought the rhetorical lameness of these threadsand inability to get to the bottom of anything was far funnier.

Cute, but I'm agnostic because I doubt god exists but can't prove it. I can only presume god to be a fanciful character in a magical world full of bull doo, but I can't prove it so therefore I must give god the benefit of the doubt.

If a god was necessary to create us... what created god? And what created god's creator? It all must start somewhere. Andit's more likely that life just started.

A better question is... Why does anything exist? I guess because life found a way. The cells that make up life forms are what built the living being we see today. We are just nature'smachinery.

MagnumPI

If life could "just start" could not the same be true for god? As it is in science, there is no beginning. We mark the beginning of the universe at the big bang, but stuff exsisted before said big bang. Something could never come out of nothing. it has always been, as it could be with god.

....because God made them that way.SpaceMoose

im offended... (no joke)

It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.Total-KO

its funny how people try and prove God exist and they fail immensely.

It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.Total-KO

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.thecreepingmess

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

That depends on what you consider evidence. There is tons of evidence for God, but that same evidence can be interpreted another way, so it's a matter of perspective. The only evidence people will ever accept (and in many cases, not even then) is seeing God right before their eyes, which simply will not happen until it's too late.

[QUOTE="thecreepingmess"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.Silver_Dragon17

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

That depends on what you consider evidence. There is tons of evidence for God, but that same evidence can be interpreted another way, so it's a matter of perspective. The only evidence people will ever accept (and in many cases, not even then) is seeing God right before their eyes, which simply will not happen until it's too late.

no, there is no evidence. Its all on faith.

[QUOTE="thecreepingmess"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.Silver_Dragon17

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

That depends on what you consider evidence. There is tons of evidence for God, but that same evidence can be interpreted another way, so it's a matter of perspective. The only evidence people will ever accept (and in many cases, not even then) is seeing God right before their eyes, which simply will not happen until it's too late.

What 'tons of evidence' is there exactly? Please don't quote me the bible.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="thecreepingmess"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.thecreepingmess

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

That depends on what you consider evidence. There is tons of evidence for God, but that same evidence can be interpreted another way, so it's a matter of perspective. The only evidence people will ever accept (and in many cases, not even then) is seeing God right before their eyes, which simply will not happen until it's too late.

What 'tons of evidence' is there exactly? Please don't quote me the bible.

Like I said, it's a matter of perspective, but to me, nature, science, the vast universe, all of this is evidence for God. But, all of it can be explained with other methods, so it just depends on how you look at it.

[QUOTE="thecreepingmess"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="thecreepingmess"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.Silver_Dragon17

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

That depends on what you consider evidence. There is tons of evidence for God, but that same evidence can be interpreted another way, so it's a matter of perspective. The only evidence people will ever accept (and in many cases, not even then) is seeing God right before their eyes, which simply will not happen until it's too late.

What 'tons of evidence' is there exactly? Please don't quote me the bible.

Like I said, it's a matter of perspective, but to me, nature, science, the vast universe, all of this is evidence for God. But, all of it can be explained with other methods, so it just depends on how you look at it.

:lol: Evidence...

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="thecreepingmess"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.hoop_hard

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

That depends on what you consider evidence. There is tons of evidence for God, but that same evidence can be interpreted another way, so it's a matter of perspective. The only evidence people will ever accept (and in many cases, not even then) is seeing God right before their eyes, which simply will not happen until it's too late.

no, there is no evidence. Its all on faith.

There is evidence, but it can be interpreted another way. So, it really isn't much a matter of faith; Just a matter of faith in asingle interpretation.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="thecreepingmess"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="thecreepingmess"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]It's funny how people try and disprove God and they fail immensely.hoop_hard

It's impossible to disprove something when no evidence is presented. So it's no surprise that those foolish enough to try might fail.

That depends on what you consider evidence. There is tons of evidence for God, but that same evidence can be interpreted another way, so it's a matter of perspective. The only evidence people will ever accept (and in many cases, not even then) is seeing God right before their eyes, which simply will not happen until it's too late.

What 'tons of evidence' is there exactly? Please don't quote me the bible.

Like I said, it's a matter of perspective, but to me, nature, science, the vast universe, all of this is evidence for God. But, all of it can be explained with other methods, so it just depends on how you look at it.

:lol: Evidence...

I fail to see teh funnay.