Would you enforce your morality on others as law , if you could?

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#1 Videodogg
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Hypothetically speaking , of course. If you could make the laws, would you try to enforce you moral standings on people living in your city or country. What laws would you make and how would you enforce them?

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#2 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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I already do and everyone in my game of Civ V hates me.

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#3 konvikt_17
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nope.

who am i to force my opinions on people.

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#4 l4dak47
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I don't have much in the way of morals since I find many of the modern ones to be stupid and illogical, so, no, i would not enforce my morals.
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#5 jamejame
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Absolutely not. I'd love to force people to willingly adopt my morals, but I'm pretty sure that's impossible.

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#6 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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Hell yes i would.
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#7 IdioticIcarus
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I'd like to say no, but if I actually had that power I probably would.

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#8 Miroku32
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Who am I now, a God?

No, I wouldn't force people my morality.
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#9 Ernesto_basic
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Current juris prudence is greatly influenced by morality. Although it isn't perfect, it does provide for norms and baselines. Would I enforce my own sense of morality? No, not entirely, but I would hope, however, that some concepts, such as murder and theft would be a shared interests across the board.

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#10 leviathan91
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No, I could never force my own morality on others even if I think my own morality is right or better than anyone elses's.

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#11 chessmaster1989
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Seeing as I'm socially libertarian, a lot more things would be legal. :P
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#12 GreySeal9
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The only time I would force my own morality on others is if not doing so would lead to some kind of severe societal problem.

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#13 juden41
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Depends on the law.
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#14 Philokalia
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Depending on the severity and type of thing committed, yes, but I would not do it if I were the sole arbiter.

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#15 mindstorm
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That depends upon what aspect of my morality. In other words, some things yes, some things no. For example, I believe it to be morally wrong to murder and I, in turn, do believe that murder should continue to be illegal. However, I also do not swear or curse because I do not see how it could have a positive consequence. This does not mean I believe certain words should be made illegal. That stated, I am quite content with most of the laws within such places as America. The greatest exception would be the legalization of abortion. This is very much one issue that I would make illegal except in extreme cases.
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#16 leviathan91
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Seeing as I'm socially libertarian, a lot more things would be legal. :Pchessmaster1989

So blackjack and hookers?

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#17 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Seeing as I'm socially libertarian, a lot more things would be legal. :Pleviathan91

So blackjack and hookers?

But no amusement parks :P
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I know we are suppose to be meek but if it went like this example... Say one day i wake up and I'm in charge. It's pay back time. Zero alcohol(only want it illegal as pay back for making weed illegal for so long) and a even stricter control over prescription drugs. abortion ONLY if the woman is going to die without the abortion. I would destroy the currency system. I would destroy useless businesses and monopolies the useful ones. i could go on, lots of people would hate my moral laws. Say one day we can start over from scratch. No hurting others and treat people the good way you would like to be treated. Instead of working because we have to, we would be working as favors for each other.
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#19 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Seeing as I'm socially libertarian, a lot more things would be legal. :Pchessmaster1989

So blackjack and hookers?

But no amusement parks :P

And forget the lunar landing and the blackjack. :lol:

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#20 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

So blackjack and hookers?

leviathan91

But no amusement parks :P

And forget the lunar landing and the blackjack. :lol:

Goes without saying :D
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#21 champion837
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Laws are based on morality, so that question is kinda weird.

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#22 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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No. My ideas aren't right for everyone.

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#23 Zeviander
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Since morality is subjective, it would be highly unethical to do so.
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#24 br0kenrabbit
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However, I also do not swear or curse because I do not see how it could have a positive consequence. mindstorm

Cursing is great natural pain relief.

And now you know.

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#25 JoGoSo
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Society already does this. I can't think of any that would benefit society more since there would be many lawbreakers. I say just shut up about my morals, stop trying to give me yours if they don't coincide, & I'll be OK like I am now.
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#26 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] However, I also do not swear or curse because I do not see how it could have a positive consequence. br0kenrabbit

Cursing is great natural pain relief.

And now you know.

I thought that this was common knowledge.

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#27 -Sun_Tzu-
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That is basically what all laws are anyway, institutionalized morality.

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#28 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I dont think so. I would never enforce any religous views or things like that. But then again, I dont really have those. Most of my "morality" seems to jibe with the current laws - dont kill, dont steal, etc. But if I believed in something that wast not widely held by others, I would not make it law. You shouldn't push your beliefs on others. Your beliefs are about what YOU should do, not what others should do.

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#29 Shmiity
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I am kind of world police-y when it comes to that. When I see things in other cultures like the mistreatment of women, or gay people, I totally want to intervene and help them. Even if it's not my culture.

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#30 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] However, I also do not swear or curse because I do not see how it could have a positive consequence. br0kenrabbit

Cursing is great natural pain relief.

And now you know.

And that is certainly a situation in which I would never hold someone accountable. However, I do like the last statement, "There is a catch, though: The more we swear, the less emotionally potent the words become, Stephens cautions. And without emotion, all that is left of a swearword is the word itself, unlikely to soothe anyone's pain."
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#31 XilePrincess
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Well considering one of my morals is keep your f*cking nose out of sh*t that doesn't concern you, no.
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#32 Shmiity
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Well considering one of my morals is keep your f*cking nose out of sh*t that doesn't concern you, no. XilePrincess

So if you see someone in need on the street, you ignore them? I see huge flaws in this moral standing of yours.

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#33 XilePrincess
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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Well considering one of my morals is keep your f*cking nose out of sh*t that doesn't concern you, no. Shmiity

So if you see someone in need on the street, you ignore them? I see huge flaws in this moral standing of yours.

That is the most absurd twisting of a post I've ever seen. What crevice of your ass did you pull that out of? This thread is about moral feelings becoming law. It doesn't concern me what somebody wants to do with their body. If you want another man to put his genitals in your ass and a ring on your finger, that is not my place to say yes or no. If you want to have an abortion, that's not my place to decide. If you want to drink or smoke or crisp your skin up like a burnt campfire weenie, that is not my place to say you can't. Helping somebody who is obviously bleeding out on the side of the road has nothing to do with my moral standings becoming law. If you're asking if I would make it law that you HAVE to help every person you see who may be in need, no, I'm not going to do that either. If you don't want to help somebody it's not my place to force you. I'd rather somebody do it of their own free will and caring for the situation than be legally obligated. I would help that person because I'm a good person but I would not pass a law saying everybody is being forced to be a good person and help the way I would. I am not a dictator.
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#34 Shmiity
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Well considering one of my morals is keep your f*cking nose out of sh*t that doesn't concern you, no. XilePrincess

So if you see someone in need on the street, you ignore them? I see huge flaws in this moral standing of yours.

That is the most absurd twisting of a post I've ever seen. What crevice of your ass did you pull that out of? This thread is about moral feelings becoming law. It doesn't concern me what somebody wants to do with their body. If you want another man to put his genitals in your ass and a ring on your finger, that is not my place to say yes or no. If you want to have an abortion, that's not my place to decide. If you want to drink or smoke or crisp your skin up like a burnt campfire weenie, that is not my place to say you can't. Helping somebody who is obviously bleeding out on the side of the road has nothing to do with my moral standings becoming law. If you're asking if I would make it law that you HAVE to help every person you see who may be in need, no, I'm not going to do that either. If you don't want to help somebody it's not my place to force you. I'd rather somebody do it of their own free will and caring for the situation than be legally obligated. I would help that person because I'm a good person but I would not pass a law saying everybody is being forced to be a good person and help the way I would. I am not a dictator.

This is fantastic. What a genuine response

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#35 Seraphy-
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I'd like to say no, I really would, but sometimes (read: every time I read anything here) I just end up thinking "man, some people should just be removed from the gene pool/society". So yeah, a lot of you would be locked up.
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#36 Jazz_Fan
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Uh sorta, yeah. Law enforcement is essentially that. I wouldn't want to be the arbiter of it, tho. That should be left in reasoning, discussion and all that boring sh*t.
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#37 BiancaDK
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enforcing my morality upon others would be oxymoronic to my morality
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#38 GreekGameManiac
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Yes.

I'd try to.

The ones who wouldn't comply would be thrown away.

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#39 whipassmt
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only in certain cases.

In a certain way all law involves the forcing of some views on others.

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#40 johnd13
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No. I mind my own business and they should mind theirs.

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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Well considering one of my morals is keep your f*cking nose out of sh*t that doesn't concern you, no. XilePrincess

So if you see someone in need on the street, you ignore them? I see huge flaws in this moral standing of yours.

That is the most absurd twisting of a post I've ever seen. What crevice of your ass did you pull that out of? This thread is about moral feelings becoming law. It doesn't concern me what somebody wants to do with their body. If you want another man to put his genitals in your ass and a ring on your finger, that is not my place to say yes or no. If you want to have an abortion, that's not my place to decide. If you want to drink or smoke or crisp your skin up like a burnt campfire weenie, that is not my place to say you can't. Helping somebody who is obviously bleeding out on the side of the road has nothing to do with my moral standings becoming law. If you're asking if I would make it law that you HAVE to help every person you see who may be in need, no, I'm not going to do that either. If you don't want to help somebody it's not my place to force you. I'd rather somebody do it of their own free will and caring for the situation than be legally obligated. I would help that person because I'm a good person but I would not pass a law saying everybody is being forced to be a good person and help the way I would. I am not a dictator.

If someone running a business doesn't want to hire an employee of a certain race or gender, is that you're business?

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#43 LJS9502_basic
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Unless you plan on having totally anarchy and no lawful society....then yes...you'd have to enforce some morals.
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#44 coolbeans90
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Law generally is that, I think, but I would only apply mine selectively.

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only in certain cases.

In a certain way all law involves the forcing of some views on others.

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#46 mingmao3046
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no. if i were the law of the land it would be ultimate freedom with extremely limited government. pro choice, all drugs legal, do whatever you want as long as you dont hurt anyone
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no. if i were the law of the land it would be ultimate freedom with extremely limited government. pro choice, all drugs legal, do whatever you want as long as you dont hurt anyonemingmao3046
Except it's not as simple as that. Bans on large sodas like Bloomberg has enforced in NYC contradict your limited government and 'as long as you dont hurt anyone' stance.
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]no. if i were the law of the land it would be ultimate freedom with extremely limited government. pro choice, all drugs legal, do whatever you want as long as you dont hurt anyoneDroidPhysX
Except it's not as simple as that. Bans on large sodas like Bloomberg has enforced in NYC contradict your limited government and 'as long as you dont hurt anyone' stance.

i said if i ruled the country thats what i would do. i dont agree with soda bans
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"]no. if i were the law of the land it would be ultimate freedom with extremely limited government. pro choice, all drugs legal, do whatever you want as long as you dont hurt anyonemingmao3046
Except it's not as simple as that. Bans on large sodas like Bloomberg has enforced in NYC contradict your limited government and 'as long as you dont hurt anyone' stance.

i said if i ruled the country thats what i would do. i dont agree with soda bans

That was....err...the example of the complexity of what is limited government.