Would you lend someone money in this situation OT?

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#1 TheNewEraIcon
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Today I got a text message from my friend, and he was saying he regretted asking me but he needed helping "saving" his house, after I asked him what he meant he said his family's house was in danger of being foreclosed and he needed to borrow some cash.

When I asked how much he said 12K was what he needed. This guy has been a real close friend of mine for 10 years since we first met in the 2nd grade and have been close ever since. I've never asked him or his family for money or anything though so I'm not really sure how to react to him asking me. There's no way I'd be able to give him 12K or anything close to that really I'm 18 years old, a student in college and I'm not really made of money, the best I could probably do is a few hundred and even then my cash is tight right now with me transferring to a bigger university in May

So for this matter, I'd love to hear some of the immortal wisdom/advice of OT. So OT what would you do? would you give your friend some money in this situation or no? I honestly would if I could since we're pretty good friends but I have my own expenses to worry about

Such a hard question... do you put yourself first or your best friend in this situation :|

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#2 raiden509
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Does he not have anyone else to go to ? I mean asking 12k from an 18 year old is a little far fetched, my truck isn't even worth half of that .....
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#3 Kcube
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Give what you can to him that won't sink you.

Freinds look out for each other..12k is alot though and alot to ask.

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#4 msudude211
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He wants 12k and he didn't even speak to you in person? :P
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#5 RubiksCubeReven
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scam alert?

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#6 Steak_And_Eggs
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First make sure (If you already haven't) that this text is actually coming from him, or if someone stole his phone. Then, talk to him in person. Get the details of the situation. See what you're donating into. If everything checks out, and he's in really deep trouble, then try donating what you can. It doesn't even have to be a few hundred dollars. It could be like $20.
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#7 TheNewEraIcon
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Does he not have anyone else to go to ? I mean asking 12k from an 18 year old is a little far fetched, my truck isn't even worth half of that ..... raiden509

I dunno, I think his folks are out of work and they don't really have many relatives that are reliable. I'd be more than happy to try and find legal help or some kind of program for them but yeah I've gotta agree 12K isn't just pocket change lol

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#8 Dylan_11
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Hey remember me? It's Dylan! We went to school in third grade? Well my dog needs to go through some emergency surgeries, do you think you could help a friend out by loaning him a couple thousand? Thanks man!
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#9 Allicrombie
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I have a friend like that, everything is always an emergency, always needs money, etc. I stopped taking his calls.
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#10 mindstorm
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I find it odd that he'd ask for such a thing through a mere text and not in person. Regardless, if I had the question put to me there isn't all that much I could do to help financially even if I wanted to. At the moment I'm barely surviving each month as I'm paying my way through school while working a job. Also, my parents are not able to help any being that they themselves lost their business and have resorted to selling whatever they can just to pay the bills.
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#11 jrhawk42
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I don't loan anything I actually expect to get back. In this situation I probably wouldn't even bother loaning anything cause it sounds like a futile situation.

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#12 berserker2389
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lol 12k screw that.
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#13 Superbored
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How old is your friend?

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#14 pero2008
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I wouldn't lend any of my friends that much money in any situation. Yeah, I'd give them maybe a couple hundred if I trusted them but I would never give them thousands of dollars.

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#15 xfactor19990
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Ah, im sorry but I wont lend anymore.....alot of problems follow!
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#16 DigitalExile
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If you HAD the money then I'd at least expect him to ask in eprson, or maybe ask to sit down with his family and discuss it, but seeing as you don;t have 12k for him I'm not sure a few hudnred will him him at all. You don't have 12k or a sizeabe chunk of what he needs so just tell him you can't help, but offer whatever other support for him you can.

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#17 coolbeans90
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A few hundred won't save his house.

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#18 siberian142
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Expecting someone to lend out $12,000 is too much to expect from a friend, especially if that person is still paying their way through school. I would like to help a friend if they needed help, but there's no guarantee that I would ever see that money again, so I would probably not be able to give them that much.
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#19 worthyofnote
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I'd say speak to him and his family first, in person. Get the low down on what's really happening. Then offer what support you can. Friendship and money can be like oil and water. A couple hundred dollars is one thing. Thousands of dollars is another.

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#20 Second_Rook
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It's his dad's responsibility not your's. I recommend you stop being his friend.
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#21 worthyofnote
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It's his dad's responsibility not your's. I recommend you stop being his friend. Second_Rook
Just because someone and their family is having a rough time, doesn't mean one should cut all ties to them. The least that could be done is offering companionship.
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#22 weezyfb
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well you don't have it so.. problem solved
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#23 Second_Rook
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[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]It's his dad's responsibility not your's. I recommend you stop being his friend. worthyofnote
Just because someone and their family is having a rough time, doesn't mean one should cut all ties to them. The least that could be done is offering companionship.

I don't know asking for an 18 year old for 12 grand via text to bail out your parents is pretty low. It would make me more angry than sympathetic.
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#24 lasseeb
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Never give money to someone and expect to get it back... Even thou it's a 'loan'.

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#25 drewtwo99
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Nope, wouldn't even think twice about it. Neither should you. Sounds cold I know but honestly, you'll never get the money back, and you don't have money to burn.
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#26 LustForSoul
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He wants 12k and he didn't even speak to you in person? :Pmsudude211
Yeah. You should also tell him you're in college and really tight on cash. I wouldn't do it.
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#27 tofu-lion91
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Personally I wouldn't lend him any money. What's happened is unfortunate but it's not your responsibility and he's asking an awful lot from you. Lending what you can won't save his house and it'll just cause problems down the line. I recently got asked by a friend to lend him 50 quid to pay off his overdraft then he'd pay me back but I said no. I hate lending money from people and I hate having people owe me money - it sits over me and how am I to know he'd be able to pay me back?
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#28 deactivated-5d1cb98d088e5
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Ah, another friend asking for money eh? See this is why I don't have friends, they lure you in with good intentions, and fellowship, but when it comes down to it it's the money they want.

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#29 YellowOneKinobi
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I never LEND money to friends. If they need, I GIVE them what I can, because I know that getting repaid can cause seriously problems later on.

In this case, and maybe this is off topic, if the family is going into forclosure, how does sinking ANOTHER $12K into debt going to help them? Unless, of course, they NEVER even PLAN on paying you back.

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#30 JustPlainLucas
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If you devised a payment plan and got him to sign a promisary note (i.e. contract) to pay you back, and you could afford the wait until you were reimbursed, then you may want to do it. However, that's a VERY large sum of money to give to another friend, and the problem lies in the fact that if he's having a hard time paying 12k now, will he ever be able to pay you back in the first place? What happens if he gets in debt in some other situation, like losing his car? He's going to find funds to pay those bills first. And money breaks up a lot of friendships, so I would just try to say as politely as I can that I'm unable to help.
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#31 UT_Wrestler
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Lending someone money to stop a house foreclosure is like giving Tylenol for a broken arm. It may give temporary relief, but it doesn't solve the problem. In this case, your friend's family is living in a house they can't afford and helping them make a monthly payment won't solve the fact that they don't make enough money to make the monthly payment on their own; so unless you were to plan on giving a person that same amount of money every month for the rest of their mortgage term, it's a lose-lose situation.
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#32 ExGabu
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I never lend money. I am either going to give it to someone or not. I suggest you take this approach as well.

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#33 BlindBluMonstah
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my friend once lent me £800 without question xD they didnt even ask me how long for i only needed it for 2 days but still thats what i call an amazing friend :'P

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#34 Darthkaiser
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If he has no money to pay his house....what makes you thing he'll be able to pay you? There was a thread around here, a few days ago when one user had a friend who kept avoiding him after he loaned him 9K. He planned on going to court.
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#35 Ceraby
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I would suggest you offer him/her to stay in your house and live with you guys since you can't/shouldn't loan the money. Say that true friendship should not be based on financial need but rather emotional support. or something. :P

my friend once lent me £800 without question xD they didnt even ask me how long for i only needed it for 2 days but still thats what i call an amazing friend :'P

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TC, maybe you should introduce your friend to BlindBluMonstah's.

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#36 Dalo12345
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Never lend any money to anybody. Ever. End of story.

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#37 worlock77
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You should seriously talk to him in person about this because I suspect you're getting scammed, and if someone has got ahole of his number to scam you then they're probably trying it with other friends/family/contacts of his as well.

Now with that said, personally I never lend money as I know chances are I won't get it back and asking for repayment can cause a strain on personal relationships. If I friend asks me to borrow money I'll give them money (assuming I have it and can spare it) without expectation of repayment. That way my friend gets what he needs and I get the joy of knowing that I've helped a friend in need out (or funded his beer run). If the friend does pay me back then that's just a nice bonus.

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#38 YellowOneKinobi
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You should seriously talk to him in person about this because I suspect you're getting scammed, and if someone has got ahole of his number to scam you then they're probably trying it with other friends/family/contacts of his as well.

Now with that said, personally I never lend money as I know chances are I won't get it back and asking for repayment can cause a strain on personal relationships. If I friend asks me to borrow money I'll give them money (assuming I have it and can spare it) without expectation of repayment. That way my friend gets what he needs and I get the joy of knowing that I've helped a friend in need out (or funded his beer run). If the friend does pay me back then that's just a nice bonus.

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Very well said. When it comes to things that are out of your control (i.e. other people), if you expect nothing, you'll never be disappointed.

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#39 superfluidity
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I've loaned money to friends in the past. Based on those experiences, I'll never loan money to anyone again.

Perhaps in a life and death situation for a close family member, but nothing else.

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#40 GreySeal9
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Just tell him you don't have the money (which is the the truth) and leave it at that.

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#41 Dspose
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No I wouldn't. The fact that they asked via text, for an unreasonably large sum of money, would be enough for me to say no, even if I did have the money.

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#42 red-ray
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You've said you are not able to give him the money so I guess there's no "give him" option here. Personally I won't give someone 12k when it's requested by a simple text.
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#43 PsychoRedFox666
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I don't think I would. I may if I was in the proper financial situation though.