Would you rather be a Mercenary or a Soldier?

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#1 theunloved
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If you have to pick. (For those who don't know, PMC's exist and those who work for it are mercenaries. Executive Operations is an example)

So would you rather fight for money or fight for your country?

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#2 pvtdonut54
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I'd rather be a diplomat of peace!

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#4 Mr_Manikin52
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A mercenary solider in Southeast Asian (Burma).

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#5 Kikouken
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I think I'll just go to my day job instead. So neither.
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#6 shoot-first
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Merc ftw :P

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#7 fluffers623
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merc becuasei wouldnt have to answer to nobody, or at least not to as many people
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#8 CaptRex
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I like to be a soldier instead of mercs.. I'm ready to defend 3 stars and a sun.. A real man must at war!
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#9 Sajo7
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They both look unappealing.
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#11 SpidersRMe
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"Private" things are always more luxurious.

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#12 duxup
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Mercenary don't always get paid much, and historically they've been awfully expendable.

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#13 ChowsSN
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Merc all day son.
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#14 tzar3
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If you want someone dead, you better pay up... :twisted:

Or I KILL YOU!

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#15 nitsud_19
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If i had to choose, which i did, it would be neither.

I would fight for my family, and friends in which case i would call myself part of the Resistance (resist the enemy from entering my life)

Countries are invisible borders which are not worth the blood of men/women/children, the people close to me are my blood.

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#16 RedWolves_
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Mercenary don't always get paid much, and historically they've been awfully expendable.

duxup
True. I'd rather be a medic, someone working for the Red Cross/Peace Corps/Nurse Corps and working in a field hospital. I'm actually thinking about doing an internship overseas next summer. :)
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#17 dont-read-this
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Isn't it the same? You're fighting for the interests of other people.
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#18 Bigboss232
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I guess I would rather be a soldier but not for my country but for myself.

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#19 theunloved
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Mercenary don't always get paid much, and historically they've been awfully expendable.

duxup
Very true. But the use of PMC's have exploded after 9/11. In fact, many of our military operations in Iraq are supported by private firms. You are right about one thing, they are expendable.
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#20 theunloved
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Isn't it the same? You're fighting for the interests of other people.dont-read-this
Its kinda iffy in a sense. The line between mercs and soldiers is usually quite wide. Many operations a PMC would do, a nation's military wouldn't dare to do. Or in cases, PMC's can be sent in quicker then troops. In one of Africa's conflicts, PMC's were used before the UN even got around to getting peace keepers together.
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#21 RedWolves_
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

Mercenary don't always get paid much, and historically they've been awfully expendable.

theunloved

Very true. But the use of PMC's have exploded after 9/11. In fact, many of our military operations in Iraq are supported by private firms. You are right about one thing, they are expendable.

Don't remember exactly which armies/countries/kings but during wars over land, crusades, etc, mercenaries were extremely expendable.

Passage describing Machiavelli's view of mercenaries. If you don't know who he is read "The Prince".

It's fantastic. "The basic problem of mercenaries is that they are loyal to the wage and not the prince, and a wage is insufficient motivation for a man to sacrifice his life. This problem is even more stark when one contemplates the mercenary captain. If he is a capable man, he may aspire to prince-hood and take the prince's own nation by force. If he is not capable, then he will bring about that nation's ruin through his own incompetence"

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#22 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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The merc, soldier of fortune, always had that appeal to it. Whether it's freelance or working for a PMC (though some would argue contractors and mercs are entirely different), there is more freedom than being a soldier, though in saying that, I'm sure real life mercenaries have a way of life different to what's shown in movies in games. Still, I would rather be a merc any day than a solider.

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#23 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

Mercenary don't always get paid much, and historically they've been awfully expendable.

theunloved
Very true. But the use of PMC's have exploded after 9/11. In fact, many of our military operations in Iraq are supported by private firms. You are right about one thing, they are expendable.

Maybe by the US, but try being a merc in Africa...
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#24 RedWolves_
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Blackwater.
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#25 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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Blackwater.RedWolves_

Now named XE.

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#26 RedWolves_
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[QUOTE="RedWolves_"]Blackwater.October_Tide

Now named XE.

Really? Any idea why they changed it? Blackwater sound too... morbid...? : /
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#27 theunloved
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[QUOTE="October_Tide"]

[QUOTE="RedWolves_"]Blackwater.RedWolves_

Now named XE.

Really? Any idea why they changed it? Blackwater sound too... morbid...? : /

They changed the name after they had the killing civilians incident. I was going to work with them at one point. To better their image, etc. There was alot evolved.

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#28 theunloved
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[QUOTE="theunloved"][QUOTE="duxup"]

Mercenary don't always get paid much, and historically they've been awfully expendable.

duxup
Very true. But the use of PMC's have exploded after 9/11. In fact, many of our military operations in Iraq are supported by private firms. You are right about one thing, they are expendable.

Maybe by the US, but try being a merc in Africa...

Oh yes. The only 'recognized' PMC company over there is EO working out of South Africa. If your caught and tried as a merc, its the death penalty for you.
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#29 SpidersRMe
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[QUOTE="October_Tide"][QUOTE="RedWolves_"]Blackwater.RedWolves_
Now named XE.

Really? Any idea why they changed it? Blackwater sound too... morbid...? : /

"Blackwater" is pretty creepy, especially as the name of a group of soldiers. I mean, "Blackwater is here to save us!" doesn't sound right. I mean, I wouldn't want to fight "Blackwater", but I wouldn't really want to associate with them at all.

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#30 RedWolves_
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[QUOTE="RedWolves_"][QUOTE="October_Tide"]Now named XE.SpidersRMe

Really? Any idea why they changed it? Blackwater sound too... morbid...? : /

"Blackwater" is pretty creepy, especially as the name of a group of soldiers. I mean, "Blackwater is here to save us!" doesn't sound right. I mean, I wouldn't want to fight "Blackwater", but I wouldn't really want to associate with them at all.

True. Should have named it Clearwater... or Peacewater. (Peacewater makers me excited for MGS: Peacewalker).
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#31 SpidersRMe
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Should have named it Clearwater... or Peacewater. (Peacewater makers me excited for MGS: Peacewalker).RedWolves_
All of these sound like Indian names.

I dunno, why water? "Blackwater" sounds like some kind of... I dunno, like some kind of bad **** that wipes out coastal villages.

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#32 D0ub13_5c0r3
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Mercenary. Lots and lots of money..
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#33 RedWolves_
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[QUOTE="RedWolves_"]Should have named it Clearwater... or Peacewater. (Peacewater makers me excited for MGS: Peacewalker).SpidersRMe

All of these sound like Indian names.

I dunno, why water? "Blackwater" sounds like some kind of... I dunno, like some kind of bad **** that wipes out coastal villages.

:D I was kidding. :) XE sounds like some futuristic PMC group from Metal Gear. :D
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#34 ChowsSN
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[QUOTE="RedWolves_"]Should have named it Clearwater... or Peacewater. (Peacewater makers me excited for MGS: Peacewalker).SpidersRMe

All of these sound like Indian names.

I dunno, why water? "Blackwater" sounds like some kind of... I dunno, like some kind of bad **** that wipes out coastal villages.

True, I wouldn't **** with any dudes working for....."blackwater".....
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#35 weezyfb
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merc. just as much skill but get a good check.
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#36 Kurushio
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Soldiers are brothers in arms that would do anything for each other or country. Mercs are coworkers who are just doing a job and care more for themselves than others. I think i read something a long time ago that contractors deaths are not included in overall causualties and would more than double the current count if added.
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#37 Lopur94
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It seems very little here are patriotic. O.o Or we got some greedy *** in here. :P
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#38 weezyfb
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It seems very little here are patriotic. O.o Or we got some greedy *** in here. :PLopur94
i would only fight for my country if the tanks were rolling in... not if we are invading some 3 rd world country without reason
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#39 StaticPenguin
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Both. I'd retire from being a soldier, to make more money as a merc.

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#40 tonberry007
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Rather be asoldier. At least to have a sense of belonging.

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#41 bronxxbombers
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If I'm gonna get stuck out in a war, I,d rather serve my country for 2 years(2?), then try and make a bit more money.
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Navy Seal = kills both options.
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#43 KcurtorMas
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Id be a Merc. Better Pay, no "Rules of Enagagement" crap, less restrictions (Appearance, etc), and better equipment. Usually, the members are ex-military as well.