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#1 SquatsAreAwesom
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I'm 25 now...

So check it, both my family and my friend's families are pretty conservative. Back in High School we were best friends - did just about everything together. Freshmen year of high school he branches out, and I follow along... start smoking pot like, a year later drink whenever the opportunity arises.

Freshmen year of college rolls around -- his brother ends up catching me talking about some weed I am bring back home that weekend. He goes Al Qaeda on us, and gives us hell for a good week. My buddy after that point never looks back, and gets all straight edge again -- props for him, whatever. However, I tell him that I straight up will not be threatened into doing **** -- but I need to find myself... by myself.

Our relationship drifts... mostly my fault, since I stop going home on the weekends at this point, because I'm just furious at the way his brother handled the entire situation. After a while, we slowly drift apart.

It's been what... 5 years... however we still see each other a few times a year, and remain friends, or I would imagine.

He's getting married, and I want to grab lunch or dinner with him to catch up before he ties the knot.

Left him a voicemail almost 2 weeks ago..... nothing.

Text........ nothing

Call and emailed him yesterday....... nothing

Kicker:

Hasn't personally invited me to the wedding, even though he's had the opportunity to. Rather, I'm invited via my family's invitation.

OR SO I THOUGHT.... turns out, I just get a phone call from my mom saying she had misread the invitation. The wedding invitation is... just for her and my Dad. I am invited to the post-wedding reception though... What The #$$$$$$$!@#?

Yes,I'm about to grab a pack of smokes... though I quit a while ago, I could use something to calm me down a bit. It's amazing man, how quickly a good friendship can be overlooked.

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Am I over reacting or is my friend just a total douchebag?

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#2 194197844077667059316682358889
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Does your blog know about this?
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#4 MrPraline
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Cool story bro. Sounds like the friendship had been over for quite some time. He might blame you for that, perhaps that's the reason he didn't invite you?
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#5 LJS9502_basic
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So? He moved on and you moved on. Friends don't have to last forever. Your choices are different than his.

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Cool story bro. Sounds like the friendship had been over for quite some time. He might blame you for that, perhaps that's the reason he didn't invite you?

I've wondered that myself. However, the way I see it... if he really wanted to get back to that lifestyle... he certainly had the choice himself.
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#7 SquatsAreAwesom
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So? He moved on and you moved on. Friends don't have to last forever. Your choices are different than his.

LJS9502_basic

Of course we did. However, it's very hard for me to imagine that someone you were best friends with for years... even after going our separate ways, would forget you in such a way. It's really surprising to me, that's all.

I do admit, that I usually feel that others are like me. I personally can't hold a grudge, ever. In fact, I still hold a special kind of love for everyone who has made my life what it is today... whether its best friends in elementary school, or whether its a coworker at an intern. Especially when it comes ot a best friend whom I hung with almost every day through high school... it's just a bit heart breaking to find out they don't share the same feelings.

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#9 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

So? He moved on and you moved on. Friends don't have to last forever. Your choices are different than his.

SquatsAreAwesom

Of course we did. However, it's very hard for me to imagine that someone you were best friends with for years... even after going our separate ways, would forget you in such a way. It's really surprising to me, that's all.

But that is a part of life. You haven't been friends for some time now.

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#10 cpo335
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It was your fault. No offense but you were a loser and he saw that and moved on. You two obviously havn't talked for 5 yrs so he probably still thinks you're a loser. Go to the wedding and talk to him. He is not a douche.
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#12 SquatsAreAwesom
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[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

So? He moved on and you moved on. Friends don't have to last forever. Your choices are different than his.

LJS9502_basic

Of course we did. However, it's very hard for me to imagine that someone you were best friends with for years... even after going our separate ways, would forget you in such a way. It's really surprising to me, that's all.

But that is a part of life. You haven't been friends for some time now.

I guess. Maybe this is my biggest lesson so far in life. I do admit, that I usually feel that others are like me. I personally can't hold a grudge, ever. In fact, I still hold a special kind of love for everyone who has made my life what it is today... whether its best friends in elementary school, or whether its a coworker at an intern. Especially when it comes ot a best friend whom I hung with almost every day through high school... it's just a bit heart breaking to find out they don't share the same feelings
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I guess. Maybe this is my biggest lesson so far in life. I do admit, that I usually feel that others are like me. I personally can't hold a grudge, ever. In fact, I still hold a special kind of love for everyone who has made my life what it is today... whether its best friends in elementary school, or whether its a coworker at an intern. Especially when it comes ot a best friend whom I hung with almost every day through high school... it's just a bit heart breaking to find out they don't share the same feelingsSquatsAreAwesom
Doesn't mean he holds a grunge. He just may not like what he perceives as your lifestyle.

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#15 SquatsAreAwesom
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It was your fault. No offense but you were a loser and he saw that and moved on. You two obviously havn't talked for 5 yrs so he probably still thinks you're a loser. Go to the wedding and talk to him. He is not a douche.cpo335
Thanks for not reading my post.
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[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]I guess. Maybe this is my biggest lesson so far in life. I do admit, that I usually feel that others are like me. I personally can't hold a grudge, ever. In fact, I still hold a special kind of love for everyone who has made my life what it is today... whether its best friends in elementary school, or whether its a coworker at an intern. Especially when it comes ot a best friend whom I hung with almost every day through high school... it's just a bit heart breaking to find out they don't share the same feelingsLJS9502_basic

Doesn't mean he holds a grunge. He just may not like what he perceives as your lifestyle.

That would be rather presumptuous, whether fair or not, I dunno. It's a good point though.
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#17 Dopemonk736
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He's a dbag. He could at least have personally told you why he isn't inviting you and how you could fix your relaionship with him. Unfortunately he wussed out and pulled the whole silent treatment technique.

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#18 chathuranga
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He straightened up his life and you did not. Maybe he thinks that if you guys are to remain close friends he would drift back to the way he was.
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#19 LJS9502_basic
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He's a dbag. He could at least have personally told you why he isn't inviting you and how you could fix your relaionship with him. Unfortunately he wussed out and pulled the whole silent treatment technique.

Dopemonk736

Dude....they drifted apart and aren't exactly friends anymore. More like acquaintances. Do you plan on telling everyone you ever met why they aren't invited to your wedding?

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#20 SquatsAreAwesom
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[QUOTE="xaos"] Your friend is a douchebag and I'm an ass; wonder why you are having trouble sustaining friendships

Look man, if you don't have any constructive to say, I would appreciate you not troll my thread. You may think it's funny, but given my situation, I'm really not in the mood for having my thoughts disrespected the way you did.
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He's a dbag. He could at least have personally told you why he isn't inviting you and how you could fix your relaionship with him. Unfortunately he wussed out and pulled the whole silent treatment technique.

Dopemonk736
That's the feeling I have been getting. I just saw him two weeks back to, and he didn't even say a word about the wedding. I was just naive at the time.
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Sounds like you need to move on.

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[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]

He's a dbag. He could at least have personally told you why he isn't inviting you and how you could fix your relaionship with him. Unfortunately he wussed out and pulled the whole silent treatment technique.

LJS9502_basic

Dude....they drifted apart and aren't exactly friends anymore. More like acquaintances. Do you plan on telling everyone you ever met why they aren't invited to your wedding?

Well I'm a little different. If I had some important moments in my life with said friend, I would still invite him. Maybe it's a little different here in the MN with our whole "Minnesota nice" thing.
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[QUOTE="cpo335"]It was your fault. No offense but you were a loser and he saw that and moved on. You two obviously havn't talked for 5 yrs so he probably still thinks you're a loser. Go to the wedding and talk to him. He is not a douche.SquatsAreAwesom
Thanks for not reading my post.

It sounded like he smoked, got you into it, someone found out, he stopped, you didn't and then you two drifted apart. Five years later you try to get back in touch with him and he doesn't respond. mirite?
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#25 SquatsAreAwesom
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[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]

He's a dbag. He could at least have personally told you why he isn't inviting you and how you could fix your relaionship with him. Unfortunately he wussed out and pulled the whole silent treatment technique.

LJS9502_basic

Dude....they drifted apart and aren't exactly friends anymore. More like acquaintances. Do you plan on telling everyone you ever met why they aren't invited to your wedding?

As I said man, we were best friends throughout high school. I would imagine thats a bit more significant.
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Unfortunately, your story is a very typical one. I've experienced similar things in the past, though for me, the dividing issue was religion. He moved from one social circle to the other and has no intention of going back. To him, he has "progressed" and sees rebuilding a friendship with you as regression and, what with his getting married, probably sees his high school partying days as immaturity or growing pains. He not only has moved on, but he flatout sees his memories in a different light from you. Your lifestyle hasn't changed that much, while his is the direct opposite of what it once was. You're the same person you always were, though hopefully a bit grown up. He, however, is an entirely different person and hence not the one you were friends with back in high school. It sucks, but as I said, it's pretty common. Especially with high school friends.
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#27 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]

He's a dbag. He could at least have personally told you why he isn't inviting you and how you could fix your relaionship with him. Unfortunately he wussed out and pulled the whole silent treatment technique.

SquatsAreAwesom

Dude....they drifted apart and aren't exactly friends anymore. More like acquaintances. Do you plan on telling everyone you ever met why they aren't invited to your wedding?

As I said man, we were best friends throughout high school. I would imagine thats a bit more significant.

No it's not. You will find as you go through life that people come and go. Some do maintain high school friendships...but most do not.

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#28 Taylor_B
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Someone that was once your friend is not obligated now to have anything to do with you. He doesn't "owe" you an explanation, and he doesn't owe you an invite to his wedding. He's making a big change in his life by getting married, and you expect him to try to deal with you at the same time? It's been five years.
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He's not a dbag, he just moved on and considers you his past.
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[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="cpo335"]It was your fault. No offense but you were a loser and he saw that and moved on. You two obviously havn't talked for 5 yrs so he probably still thinks you're a loser. Go to the wedding and talk to him. He is not a douche.cpo335
Thanks for not reading my post.

It sounded like he smoked, got you into it, someone found out, he stopped, you didn't and then you two drifted apart. Five years later you try to get back in touch with him and he doesn't respond. mirite?

On the contrary, I've seen him every so often in the past five years. I've also made an initiative a few times to get together so we can reminisce about the past, and just kind of catch up. However, it's usually me being the only one trying to make it work out. Thing is, he's still very close to his brother. The only other thing I can imagine is, his brother still controlling his life.
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Thanks for not reading my post.SquatsAreAwesom
It sounded like he smoked, got you into it, someone found out, he stopped, you didn't and then you two drifted apart. Five years later you try to get back in touch with him and he doesn't respond. mirite?

On the contrary, I've seen him every so often in the past five years. I've also made an initiative a few times to get together so we can reminisce about the past, and just kind of catch up. However, it's usually me being the only one trying to make it work out. Thing is, he's still very close to his brother. The only other thing I can imagine is, his brother still controlling his life.

Dude stop blaming his brother. He moved on. He made different choices. You grew apart. It's part of life as I said.

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#32 Paladin_King
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quick thing just crossed my mind: could this have anything to do with his wife-to-be? Does she know about you or his past lifestyle? Disapprove of it? This might be explain it.
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People drift. I knew someone at school, we were fairly good friends, we all went away to uni, and by the time myself, and others came back for the first Christmas break he just blanked us. Erased us from his life, because he believed he had moved on. And that is fine if not a little frustrating at first. It is just jarring to see it happen all of a sudden, but it is their choice, and if that is what they want, you won't be able to change it. You just have to adjust to their actions.

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Isn't it his right who he wants to invite and who he doesn't? It's not like you've tried to reach out to him these past five years only until recently when he's getting married, but I bet your families have kept in contact with each other which is probably why they are invited.

Weather it's your actions that caused you to stray apart, I don't know. But he's the one trying to start a family and your the one claiming that your "friend" your reaching out to is a douche. As rude as it is that he hasn't even replied to your messages explaining why he isn't talking to you right now.

If you really want to be a better man, than go to the reception and congratulate him on his wedding, maybe that way you can rectify your friendship if it's important to you.

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Stop smoking pot that's my feedback.
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i wouldn't go to that wedding if i were you,i think you both have your interpretations on events,you need to talk about it,but i really doubt if his wedding is the best place and best time for that.

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#37 LJS9502_basic
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i wouldn't go to that wedding if i were you,i think you both have your interpretations on events,you need to talk about it,but i really doubt if his wedding is the best place and best time for that.

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Actually he wasn't invited and as such shouldn't crash the wedding.

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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]Unfortunately, your story is a very typical one. I've experienced similar things in the past, though for me, the dividing issue was religion. He moved from one social circle to the other and has no intention of going back. To him, he has "progressed" and sees rebuilding a friendship with you as regression and, what with his getting married, probably sees his high school partying days as immaturity or growing pains. He not only has moved on, but he flatout sees his memories in a different light from you. Your lifestyle hasn't changed that much, while his is the direct opposite of what it once was. You're the same person you always were, though hopefully a bit grown up. He, however, is an entirely different person and hence not the one you were friends with back in high school. It sucks, but as I said, it's pretty common. Especially with high school friends.

I agree with you. However, on the contrary my lifestyle has changed significantly. Really the only difference between him and myself is, I wasn't forced into fixing my ways... rather, I learned to fix myself. Maybe he never realized that. Really good post though. Very informative :)
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I find it kind of odd that he would invite your family. If he doesn't want to talk to you why bother inviting your family? Unless your two families are friends.
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Stop smoking pot that's my feedback.Pittfan666
It's been like 4 years....
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People drift. I knew someone at school, we were fairly good friends, we all went away to uni, and by the time myself, and others came back for the first Christmas break he just blanked us. Erased us from his life, because he believed he had moved on. And that is fine if not a little frustrating at first. It is just jarring to see it happen all of a sudden, but it is their choice, and if that is what they want, you won't be able to change it. You just have to adjust to their actions.

Samwel_X
And I think that's the exact situation that I am feeling. However, the only addition thing that makes it weird is... we still saw each other every other month, some place or another. I just saw him two weeks back even, and things were just peachy.
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#42 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]

People drift. I knew someone at school, we were fairly good friends, we all went away to uni, and by the time myself, and others came back for the first Christmas break he just blanked us. Erased us from his life, because he believed he had moved on. And that is fine if not a little frustrating at first. It is just jarring to see it happen all of a sudden, but it is their choice, and if that is what they want, you won't be able to change it. You just have to adjust to their actions.

SquatsAreAwesom

And I think that's the exact situation that I am feeling. However, the only addition thing that makes it weird is... we still saw each other every other month, some place or another. I just saw him two weeks back even, and things were just peachy.

Squats...he's friendly with you. He just doesn't want to be friends if you can understand the difference. Don't take it personally.

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#43 Samwel_X
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Squats...he's friendly with you. He just doesn't want to be friends if you can understand the difference. Don't take it personally.

LJS9502_basic

Sad but true. Accept it.

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[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="Samwel_X"]

People drift. I knew someone at school, we were fairly good friends, we all went away to uni, and by the time myself, and others came back for the first Christmas break he just blanked us. Erased us from his life, because he believed he had moved on. And that is fine if not a little frustrating at first. It is just jarring to see it happen all of a sudden, but it is their choice, and if that is what they want, you won't be able to change it. You just have to adjust to their actions.

LJS9502_basic

And I think that's the exact situation that I am feeling. However, the only addition thing that makes it weird is... we still saw each other every other month, some place or another. I just saw him two weeks back even, and things were just peachy.

Squats...he's friendly with you. He just doesn't want to be friends if you can understand the difference. Don't take it personally.

It's hard not to.

Maybe I just need some time to let this register.

It's mostly my fault for assuming I was going to the wedding... then finding out I'm not even invited.

I'll certainly go to the reception. I'm not going to be passive aggressive about the situation, I just need to vent before the time comes.

More then anything, I think you all are right. I think I just have a huge problem with 'moving on'. I think I just have a general problem of just... clearing my cache of friends, so to speak. Rather, anytime I see someone I recognize, I get a glee of happyness. More so, with people who were a large part of my life at one point or another.

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#45 MetalGear_Ninty
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[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="xaos"]Does your blog know about this?xaos
You're an ass... I'm looking for feedback, and this is OT. Thanks for trolling though.

Your friend is a douchebag and I'm an ass; wonder why you are having trouble sustaining friendships

To be fair, I don't think he wished to have a friendship with you in the first place, so him calling you an ass is not exactly evidence to his ability to sustain friends. :wink:
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#46 muller39
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i think that is a low blow to send a message especially to an old friend

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#47 -FlyLo-
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Well it sounds like the friendship was over a long time ago, but it was kind of shallow of him. Crash the wedding.

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#48 SquatsAreAwesom
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i think that is a low blow to send a message especially to an old friend

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You mean what I did?
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#49 muller39
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[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="muller39"]

i think that is a low blow to send a message especially to an old friend

You mean what I did?

no i think it was a low blow with that not allowing you to go to the wedding and everything. for someone who seems to think he is all mature i think it was a very immature think to do
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#50 zeorshadow19
Member since 2007 • 1471 Posts

I think you're both just drifiting apart. It happens.